OCing manual??? I know I know

poMONKey

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where oh where can a NEWB get a book or online guide on overclocking my computer?!?!? all the ones Ive seen are OLD and prolly still hold water and basic concepts, but I dont know which techniques are still used in this jumperless, BIOS driven OCing age.

I have been reading PJs thread mostly ( THUGSROOK and mikki's too... ), trying to figure out some stuff.

its pretty much all going right over my head... I want to start from scratch and do it RIGHT... can someone point me in the right direction??? THANKS...
 

ChampionAtTufshop

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here is one i wrote not too long ago

it doesnt deal with the mult yet (it will in pt2) but most of waht you need is there
also, any feedback on if you liked it or not would be nice.... you can pm me for that or respond here ifyou wish :)
 

loafbred

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1. Start with the necessities to avoid over-volting or overheating components. Don't try to raise the core voltage on an Athlon with a basic cooler. Don't do anything without watching cpu temp. Don't bother overclocking unless you have some decent airflow in the case. Don't expect much if you're using a cheap power supply, and if it's under-spec (especially amperage), don't be surprised if something/everything gets toasted if it fries.

2. READ AND UNDERSTAND THE MOTHERBOARD MANUAL!

3. Read reviews of your exact motherboard model. This is where you'll get the best information for overclocking your board.

4. Don't try to overclock more than one thing at a time while you're testing the limits of the individual components. Once you establish the safe limits of each component, then try with other components at their KNOWN limits. They may or may not all run together at their individual limits.

5. WATCH THE TEMPS! Find out what the temperature limits are BEFORE you exceed them.

6. Don't expect the cheapest components to withstand the same stresses tolerated by the best components, even if it is stable.
 

poMONKey

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loafbred... thanks... I definately have a cool case ( fans and more fans ) and a big-ass CPU fan ( thermaltake spark 7 )... thats all good. will be getting a temp monitor and the works.... but thanks for the "practical" info that I usually skip!!! :D


 

loafbred

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Champion - I thought the aricle was one of the best I've seen, expect for the "Vdimm" section, which seemed like it would confuse a newbie regarding what "Vdimm" actually is. Where it said that "Usually, but not always, increasing the Vdimm will yield a higher overall CPU Frequency", it could be misunderstood to suggest that it effects a timing change rather than a current change. A person who already understands what it adjusts wouldn't read it that way, but I think a newbie would.
 

ChampionAtTufshop

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Originally posted by: loafbred
Champion - I thought the aricle was one of the best I've seen, expect for the "Vdimm" section, which seemed like it would confuse a newbie regarding what "Vdimm" actually is. Where it said that "Usually, but not always, increasing the Vdimm will yield a higher overall CPU Frequency", it could be misunderstood to suggest that it effects a timing change rather than a current change. A person who already understands what it adjusts wouldn't read it that way, but I think a newbie would.

hence the glossary lol
it says in the glossary:
"Vdimm ? Voltage supplied to the DIMM slots"

...i dont think anyone would need any other clarifications, do you?
 

HoMeZ

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Can you explain more on how to o/c ram? If I increase FSB does that also o/c my ram or only my processor?
 

ChampionAtTufshop

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i believei wrote in there that there can be different ratio's for ram to cpu speeds

usually there is a 1:1 ratio where every 1mhz incrase in cpu frequency equals 1mhz increase in ram speed
sometimes there are other ratio's available such as 3:4, 4:3, 4:5
ill use 4:5 as an example
fi you enable this ratio while cpu frequency is at 133, your ram will now be at 166 [ (133 * 5)/4]
so if you increase cpu frquency to 140, ram is now at 175 [ (140*5)/4]
 

ChampionAtTufshop

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yeah generally a higher speed with 1:1 ratio is preferred to a lower speed with another ratio for amd
but if you reach the max frequency u can, or are comfertable with, then go ahead and give another ratio a shot and see if its stable

if it works, all the better
if it doesnt, leave it at 1:1

you could also play with vdimm to see if that will letyou have another ratio at the cpu frequency you want...or play around with the timings
 

ChampionAtTufshop

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well that only applies if the ratio's are even available lol

i dont know about gb and if it even has ratios

but most other ones do

 

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For a mobo runnin at a fsb of 333 (166x2) and DDR400 (200x2) does the mobo automatically apply the proper memory ratio (5/4 i suppose) or does it keep the ram runnin at 166x2? Assuming the mobo supports ddr400 of course.
 

Actaeon

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Originally posted by: poMONKey
where oh where can a NEWB get a book or online guide on overclocking my computer?!?!? all the ones Ive seen are OLD and prolly still hold water and basic concepts, but I dont know which techniques are still used in this jumperless, BIOS driven OCing age.

I have been reading PJs thread mostly ( THUGSROOK and mikki's too... ), trying to figure out some stuff.

its pretty much all going right over my head... I want to start from scratch and do it RIGHT... can someone point me in the right direction??? THANKS...

I saw this a couple days ago.

You might like it :)
 

ChampionAtTufshop

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Originally posted by: paco83
For a mobo runnin at a fsb of 333 (166x2) and DDR400 (200x2) does the mobo automatically apply the proper memory ratio (5/4 i suppose) or does it keep the ram runnin at 166x2? Assuming the mobo supports ddr400 of course.

on some mobos you dont have a choice of a divider, but you do have a choice to run the ram asynchronously from the cpu freq

for example on the p4pe by asus
it doesnt outright say a divider, but there is an option to select the ram speed

i guess its just easier for ppl that way

in either case, the divider is being used....just sometimes it doesnt show up as the divider persae