oblivion performance question.

[TanisHalfElven]

i was thinking of upgrading my video card to a 7900gt or x1800xt.
currently i play at 640x480 with all the settings except shadows maxed out with 4xAA ad it looks really good. esp since i use a nodded xbox controller to play.

no my question is ghow well would either of these cards perform at 640x480 or 800x600. i won't play at higher res cuz i'd rather have butter smooth game play (on a budget)

ok so my main question is how bad are the jaggies at lower resolutions (cuz i want HDR) on a 7900gt. i was leaning towards the 7900gt cuz of OC capability and nice cool core but now i consider the x1800xt's hdr+aa as a major selling point. considering how few jaggies i see with 640x480 i think i'd like that.

could somebody just please run a test with a x1800xt at 640x480 with 6xAA and max HQ-AF and HDR and all settings maxed out. i'd really appreciate the info of how well (minimum fps) it plays.

Thanks

 

[JBT]

With a res that low its mostly going to be CPU liimited anyways....

 

[TanisHalfElven]

really with 6xAA,HDR,shawdows,max HQ-AF ?
ok any predictions on the fps.

 

[TheRyuu]

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
really with 6xAA,HDR,shawdows,max HQ-AF ?
ok any predictions on the fps.

Predictions? 1-5fps (because of CPU limitation)

You'll most likely bee way to CPU limited at that res, and it'll look like a slideshow. You would at least have to get it to 800x600 maby even more to stress out the graphics card. It'll be CPU limited ON ANY RIG at that res.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: wizboy11

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
really with 6xAA,HDR,shadows,max HQ-AF ?
ok any predictions on the fps.

Predictions? 1-5fps (because of CPU limitation)

You'll most likely bee way to CPU limited at that res, and it'll look like a sideshow. You would at least have to get it to 800x600 maby even more to stress out the graphics card. It'll be CPU limited ON ANY RIG at that res.

really my rig below get 20-25 fps outdoors at 640x480. why would putting in a faster gfx and upping the gpu intensive features (hdr, aa, af, shadows) lower the fps cuz of cpu limitation.

iam sorry if i sound offensive but i always thought cpu limitations was like this. you can only get 50 fps (in a imaginary game) due to the due. at any res and at any setting you will get that much cuz the gpu i not working as max. but if you increase the res then you get a lower fps but the cpu is no longer the limitation.

is the above wrong ? if not then there no reason to get lower fps then i'm currently getting.

 

[LittleNemoNES]

a better vid card would allow you to run @ a higher res. like 1024x768 with same or higher settings. By the way visit this first: http://www.tweakguides.com/Oblivion_5.html

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: gersson
a better vid card would allow you to run @ a higher res. like 1024x768 with same or higher settings. By the way visit this first: http://www.tweakguides.com/Oblivion_5.html

yeah but i don't want a higher res. i prefer low res (probably cuz my monitor is 15" crt)
and higher effect. will a x800xt allow that. also i've read the oblivion tweak guides already.

 

[Noema]

Originally posted by: wizboy11

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
really with 6xAA,HDR,shawdows,max HQ-AF ?
ok any predictions on the fps.

Predictions? 1-5fps (because of CPU limitation)

You'll most likely bee way to CPU limited at that res, and it'll look like a slideshow. You would at least have to get it to 800x600 maby even more to stress out the graphics card. It'll be CPU limited ON ANY RIG at that res.

Em...

I used to play Oblivion at 640x480 when I had my 9600se and I would get 40+ fps with the Oldblivion patch (which reduces the stress on the GPU even more by forcing SM 1.0).

Being CPU limited doesn't mean you'll get lower fps at lower resolutions than at higher ones.

It simply means that, if you lower the resolution, you can appreciate the limitations of the CPU better than if you were playing at 1600x1200, simply because at such high resolutions, the GPU becomes the limiting factor long before the CPU does, rendering any possible CPU bottleneck irrelevant to the equation.

If you can get, say, 40+ fps at 1280x1024, almost by logical necessity you'll get higher fps at 640x480, simply because the most likely bottleneck (GPU) has been relieved. The CPU was working at full capacity even at 1280x1024. I, for example, got a slight fps boost at 1280x1024 (about 5-7 and 10ish in cities, which I'm sure are more CPU limited than outdoors) after moving to an X-Fi from on board audio, further proof I was being both CPU and GPU limited in the game.

 

[Noema]

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven

Originally posted by: gersson
a better vid card would allow you to run @ a higher res. like 1024x768 with same or higher settings. By the way visit this first: http://www.tweakguides.com/Oblivion_5.html

yeah but i don't want a higher res. i prefer low res (probably cuz my monitor is 15" crt)
and higher effect. will a x800xt allow that. also i've read the oblivion tweak guides already.

A 7900GT or a X1800XT should be able to handle the game very well at 1280x1024.

No offense, but either of those cards would be a waste for playing at anything less than that.

 

[unfalliblekrutch]

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven

Originally posted by: wizboy11

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
really with 6xAA,HDR,shadows,max HQ-AF ?
ok any predictions on the fps.

Predictions? 1-5fps (because of CPU limitation)

You'll most likely bee way to CPU limited at that res, and it'll look like a sideshow. You would at least have to get it to 800x600 maby even more to stress out the graphics card. It'll be CPU limited ON ANY RIG at that res.

really my rig below get 20-25 fps outdoors at 640x480. why would putting in a faster gfx and upping the gpu intensive features (hdr, aa, af, shadows) lower the fps cuz of cpu limitation.

iam sorry if i sound offensive but i always thought cpu limitations was like this. you can only get 50 fps (in a imaginary game) due to the due. at any res and at any setting you will get that much cuz the gpu i not working as max. but if you increase the res then you get a lower fps but the cpu is no longer the limitation.

is the above wrong ? if not then there no reason to get lower fps then i'm currently getting.

You are right, CPU limitations mean that lowering the resolution further beyond the CPU limited resolution results in the SAME FPS, not a drop in FPS.

 

[Nextman916]

Yah i helped build my friend ross's rig, he assured me he already had a 19inch samsung monitor at home, and he said it was $500 when first bought. So i ignored suggesting him a monitor, then i go over to his house to hook it up/test out his rig.....turns out it was a 19inch lcd tv with a max res of 800x600. He spent so much on his dual core rig+7800gt etc..that he couldnt afford another monitor. Playing FC on his rig ran less than my 7800gs co now at 1280x1024 with 4xAA/8xAF, even with everything enabled, till this day he still games at 800x600 with a 1200k rig.

 

[unfalliblekrutch]

If you're limited to a tiny resolution like that, I'd go with the ATi for the AA +HDR. It's not like its a bad card either

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: unfalliblekrutch
If you're limited to a tiny resolution like that, I'd go with the ATi for the AA +HDR. It's not like its a bad card either

:thumbsup:

Or better yet, save your money and get a bigger monitor. What's the point of the expensive rig if you play at 640x480??? It's like buying a Viper and than only driving in 25mph zones.

 

[unfalliblekrutch]

Originally posted by: Elfear

Originally posted by: unfalliblekrutch
If you're limited to a tiny resolution like that, I'd go with the ATi for the AA +HDR. It's not like its a bad card either

:thumbsup:

Or better yet, save your money and get a bigger monitor. What's the point of the expensive rig if you play at 640x480??? It's like buying a Viper and than only driving in 25mph zones.

t3h girlzzzzz

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven
I'd really appreciate the info of how well (minimum fps) it plays.

Likely the same as what it would be at 1280x960.

 

[akugami]

Originally posted by: unfalliblekrutch

Originally posted by: Elfear

Originally posted by: unfalliblekrutch
If you're limited to a tiny resolution like that, I'd go with the ATi for the AA +HDR. It's not like its a bad card either

:thumbsup:

Or better yet, save your money and get a bigger monitor. What's the point of the expensive rig if you play at 640x480??? It's like buying a Viper and than only driving in 25mph zones.

t3h girlzzzzz

Please let me know what area of the world girls are interested in the size of your epenis and I'll move there now.

 

[unfalliblekrutch]

:Q

Originally posted by: akugami

Originally posted by: unfalliblekrutch

Originally posted by: Elfear

Originally posted by: unfalliblekrutch
If you're limited to a tiny resolution like that, I'd go with the ATi for the AA +HDR. It's not like its a bad card either

:thumbsup:

Or better yet, save your money and get a bigger monitor. What's the point of the expensive rig if you play at 640x480??? It's like buying a Viper and than only driving in 25mph zones.

t3h girlzzzzz

Please let me know what area of the world girls are interested in the size of your epenis and I'll move there now.

I was talking about the Viper.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: Noema

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven

Originally posted by: gersson
a better vid card would allow you to run @ a higher res. like 1024x768 with same or higher settings. By the way visit this first: http://www.tweakguides.com/Oblivion_5.html

yeah but i don't want a higher res. i prefer low res (probably cuz my monitor is 15" crt)
and higher effect. will a x800xt allow that. also i've read the oblivion tweak guides already.

A 7900GT or a X1800XT should be able to handle the game very well at 1280x1024.

No offense, but either of those cards would be a waste for playing at anything less than that.

according to anand's benches the x1900xt has trouble with oblivon (<50 fps outdoors ) at 1280x1028.

 

[mazeroth]

I'm running Oblivion at 1600x1200 with HDR, 8xAF, 0xAA on my Athlon64 3500+ at 2.5ghz and an X1800XT. I average around 30fps outside with grass off and it's faster than heck inside.

 

[akshayt]

a 15" should be able to take 10X7.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: mazeroth
I'm running Oblivion at 1600x1200 with HDR, 8xAF, 0xAA on my Athlon64 3500+ at 2.5ghz and an X1800XT. I average around 30fps outside with grass off and it's faster than heck inside.

GRASS OFF.
WHY. you got a x1800xt. why would you turn off the grass ?
you have effectivly destroyed the games beauty and tunred the lush vibrant landscape into a barren waste land. dear god.

any way to each his own. but the his conslusion in the thread is that the x1800xt will easily handle maxed out settings (probably increased the settings in the ini, like more grass, and the LOD tweaks) with 6xAA and max HQ-AF and HDR ? right.

 

[TanisHalfElven]

Originally posted by: tanishalfelven

Originally posted by: mazeroth
I'm running Oblivion at 1600x1200 with HDR, 8xAF, 0xAA on my Athlon64 3500+ at 2.5ghz and an X1800XT. I average around 30fps outside with grass off and it's faster than heck inside.

GRASS OFF.
WHY. you got a x1800xt. why would you turn off the grass ?
you have effectivly destroyed the games beauty and tunred the lush vibrant landscape into a barren waste land. dear god.

any way to each his own. but the conslusion in the thread is that the x1800xt will easily handle maxed out settings (probably increased the settings in the ini, like more grass, and the LOD tweaks) with 6xAA and max HQ-AF and HDR at 800x600 or 640x480 ? right.

 

[kylebisme]

Right.

 

[secretanchitman]

umm...instead of getting a new video card for more fps in 640x480/800x600, why not use that money for a nice 17"/19" LCD and put that x800GT you have to good use? 1280x1024 isnt a bad resolution by any means...though i prefer 1600x1200/1680x1050 personally.

 

[kylebisme]

He is obviously already looking for more framerate at his current resolution, buying a new monitor isn't going to help him there.