obese employees cost companies an additional $4000 annually

[BlahBlahYouToo]

I work with a ton of these "people", and they all average about 15-20 sick days a year. makes me sick

pun intended?

 

[QueBert]

lol I love at how worked up some people get on here over others when it doesn't even concern them.

 

[episodic]

I call BS on this. I'm loosing weight now - but I've been at or around the 300lb mark for over 10 years. I can count on my hands the number of times I've seen a doctor.

 

[alkemyst]

I call BS on this. I'm loosing weight now - but I've been at or around the 300lb mark for over 10 years. I can count on my hands the number of times I've seen a doctor.

Have you had income, insurance and no responsibilities outside of work?

I think all people milk their sick time. My company used to allow 6 sick occurances per year.

Each occurance could be up to 5 work days.

We had a very high percentage of those that needed 30 days per year. They kept cutting it down to the standard 5 days now. It also used to be short term disability kicked in after the 5th missed day, now it's after a month.

 

[RocksteadyDotNet]

LOL at all the disgusting fat cunts in this thread getting offended.

If you don't like it then loose some weight you fat pigs.

 

[alkemyst]

LOL at all the disgusting fat cunts in this thread getting offended.

If you don't like it then loose some weight you fat pigs.

 

[Zebo]

I'd love it if the "healthy food is cheaper" lie were true, but it is not. So far I've seen something about eating a ton of beans because Mexico is known for its health food and a suggestion that I must be an idiot eating low fat ice cream all day. Produce was barely mentioned, because we all know most Americans eat to many expensive veggies anyway.

It is not cheaper. And of course, nothing is easier than opening a bag of chips...even if that isn't relevant to the point.

Calorie for calorie, shit calories from junk will always win. In fact, they are 10 times cheaper:

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/12/05/a-high-price-for-healthy-food/

LOL fail. Calorie for calorie you can buy a 50lb bag of sugar for $35. Probably has a million calories. Beat that.

Calorie for calorie in the last thing someone should be worried about in judging "value". Quality food costs less go to costco and price 50 lbs of beans and rice you can eat a fuck ton of days as in months with a bag of each.

 

[Zebo]

lol yea ok try feeding 3 teenagers and two adults and get back to me on how inexpensive cooking/eating healthy is.

we have beans and rice and cornbread about once a week for dinner. and yes it cheap, but if we had that every night i would face a revolt.

That exactly what we do. But we eat lots of meat, veggies and fruit too. My kids range from 14-7 and probably have only been to Micky Ds 4-5 times in thier lives. No chips, no sugar water or other carbo loaded packaged junk in allowed in house simple as that. No chemicals allowed on package save sauces like BBQ sauce and Newmans dressing. I owe it to my kids to give them strong teeth, good immune system and a healthy start. What they do after, when they pay bills, is their call.

 

[Zebo]

I won't, because i'm not fat, but a fat person could just as easily skip the sour cream, bacon, cheese, salt, and butter. But they won't, because they are lazy, have no self control, and like to think that it's not their fault.

You see no fatties in poor places or in runners world mag. Fat, or should I say "genetics" comes with disposable income and/or sloth.

American Indian and Arabs used to be skinny, very skinny, peoples before Oil and BIA. Arabian peninsula Arabs are very tall and lanky and graceful people, now look at them in places like SA all fat fucks or "poor genetics" and people don't believe in evolution?

Anyway..

Gurantee: if anyone whining about fat ran 5 miles a day in zone four for two month, every day, no exceptions they would change their tune. No, sorry, walking around track with water bottle with your girlfriend does not count as working out, that's socializing, or loafing, gold bricking or what not. Talking about serious exercise here. Eat whatever you will "genetics" will change.

Diets suck. Avoid them. give you no muscle tone, no cardio, no increasing WB cell count, no improving lymphatic, digestive, nervous systems only strenuous EXERCISE can do that. Diet takes care of itself if you run 5 miles a day. Just try and suck down trash, when you leave it on the track next day you'll think better of it.

 

[eits]

the REAL question = why did it take 3 pages before theflyingpig weighed in on this (no pun intended)

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I agree that it's partly intelligence and effort to eat healthier. However, it is not cheaper. However, at least here in America, we subsidize certain agricultural commodities like corn and wheat.

In the US you can get a pretty decent size burger from the dollar menu. You can barely buy an apple (which is nutritonally very weak) for the same dollar.
When you factor in the time, cooking energy and waste of purchasing and cooking healthy food, which consists of perishables, its cheaper to eat high cal, high fat, high sugar and highly processed foods, it clearly costs more to eat healthy.

No? Ok, buy a pound of ground beef, add some baked beans, some water, some rice and some spices and you have a healthy meal for less than half a dollar per portion, it'll contain more nutrients and it WILL be cheaper.

Or lets do pancakes, about one pence a portion.

People kid themselves into thinking that it's impossible to make the food any cheaper but that hamburger is 40 grams of meat and white bread, the cost of making that at home is one tenth of a dollar if you buy the 40 grams of ground beef and bake the bread, not to mention it's 50X better for you since you probably would use better flour and less additives.

See, it's not hard to do, you just make a batch of 80 breads, freese in those you are not going to use and making hamburgers is as easy as having two plates, put one on the scale, measure up the amount and put another one on top of it to press the meat into a burger.

Then if you are smart you use the sallad for two meals for all in your family or if it's just you, you buy it in a pot and it'll last for a couple of days.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

I call BS on this. I'm loosing weight now - but I've been at or around the 300lb mark for over 10 years. I can count on my hands the number of times I've seen a doctor.

Yes, about 850 000 doctors are wrong and you are right, being morbidly obese isn't unhealthy.

It's like not brushing your teeth, some people don't and don't see a dentist for 30 years, so brushing your teeth is overrated, right?

I can count on my two fingers the times i have seen a doctor for an ailment and one of them was when i got shot.

 

[Zebo]

This is true for the health care system in general, but not necessarily for employers.

Think about it: healthy people who eat well, exercise and live to 95 but suffer debilitating, costly cancer in their final years were very healthy and productive all throughout their careers. They probably took very few sick days.

Their health doesn't decline until well into retirement, at which point they're not impacting their employer any longer.

Obese people, OTOH, get sick more often and miss work. The actual cost though, is debatable, and can't be determined just from this study.

Indeed there are economic and medical studies from respected journals which shows we should be encouraging fatness and smoking. Primarily because the fat and smokers do not cost the social security system for 30 + years. The medical costs cost MORE for a health nut too. hip surguries, and they still get cancer, heart desease or whatnot eventually which we have to pay for, just like fatty. Difference is fatty is offed at 60-65 not sucking social welfare till 95.

 

[Zebo]

Once again fatties prove to be a burden on society. Not only do their co-workers have to see them, they also cost the company money. Do you keep piles of stinking garbage around your house? No. You put it in a bag, throw the bag in a garbage can and keep it outside, out of sight and smell. That's how fatties should be handled in the workplace. Out of sight, out of smell. Everyone knows this.

Fatties do. it all goes together. sloth in exercise, discipline, cleanliness, sales, profit, work ethic...amazing how that works...

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Indeed there are economic and medical studies from respected journals which shows we should be encouraging fatness and smoking. Primarily because the fat and smokers do not cost the social security system for 30 + years. The medical costs cost MORE for a health nut too. hip surguries, and they still get cancer, heart desease or whatnot eventually which we have to pay for, just like fatty. Difference is fatty is offed at 60-65 not sucking social welfare till 95.

I want to see those stats because according to EVERYTHING i have seen it's completly untrue, obesity and smoking cause disabilites that make people unable to work but able to live for 30+ years with treatment costing 100x more.

But if it helps your depression of being fat, i guess it's good for you to imagine things.