"Obama's replacement in Ill. must be black"

[First]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm not a fan of Mencia but he did say something funny just after the election along the lines of, "Well, now that a black man is President I guess black jokes are no longer taboo.' Face it, once you've reached the most powerful position in the world (debatable), you are no longer being held down by 'the man'. Get over it.

rofl. How does one black man's victory speak for the entire African American community?

Oh? I thought it was a victory for everyone that brought the nation together? Or did I miss something? Change and all that jazz.

If you take Obama's slogans at face value than I assume you also agree with him when he says racism against blacks is by no means over or less significant?

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm not a fan of Mencia but he did say something funny just after the election along the lines of, "Well, now that a black man is President I guess black jokes are no longer taboo.' Face it, once you've reached the most powerful position in the world (debatable), you are no longer being held down by 'the man'. Get over it.

rofl. How does one black man's victory speak for the entire African American community?

Oh? I thought it was a victory for everyone that brought the nation together? Or did I miss something? Change and all that jazz.

If you take Obama's slogans at face value than I assume you also agree with him when he says racism against blacks is by no means over or less significant?

Not really. I assume that all politicians are full of BS so I just pick and choose what I want to use. Just like a politician.

 

[cubeless]

Originally posted by: tk149
Bobby Rush...'nuff said.

Remember, this is the same place that Jesse Jackson is from. Some people thrive off racial tension, and if they don't think there is enough, they manufacture it.

and jesse's boy is one of the contenders...

and on the percentage game... the senate is 100 folks out of the whole country... you have a whole lot of math against you to get to be in there period... that it would 'look like america' is a probable impossibility...

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Dari
It's amazing how blatant African-Americans can be with their racism and nobody says anything.

I'm amazed how blatantly racist people like YOU can be, lumping everyone together because they've got the same racial background. One asshole says something and suddenly "African-Americans" are racist?

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: winnar111
Memo: A black man got elected President. You can STFU about racism now.

It's a step forward, but it sure as hell isn't the end of racism. Or if it is, a lot of people didn't seem to get the memo.

That said, this replacement nonsense is stupid. Appoint the best person for the job, period. Despite the big deal made about his race by Obama's detractors (and supporters), the man himself acted pretty color-blind...we need MORE of that if we really want to end racism.

If its not the end of racism, its pretty damn close enough to it. Who gives a shit about 5% of the population stuck in the 50s?

You want to act color blind? Start by getting rid of affirmative action, because as has just been shown, a black man can do anything in this country if he wants to.

Yeah, a black guy can...as long as he can fight through the problems associated with his skin color. This election had a lot of funky racial shit that NEVER would have come up even a little bit if Obama didn't have a different name and a different skin color. And it wasn't just a few idiots in West Virginia the media found to interview, throw in a couple of sheets and some of those McCain/Palin events could have been Klan rallies. Of course there is a certain amount of animosity between the two parties, but people brought it to a whole new level this time around...and if the reason WASN'T Obama's race, then they sure had a funny way of showing it.

And that's not even mentioning the racial bullshit from certain BLACK people in this election. We got the Klan idiots worried that Obama is too black, and Jesse Jackson saying he's not black enough. If you think those morons are just 5% of the population, I think you're fooling yourself.

Edit: And why is it that Affirmative Action is always first on the chopping block when a conservative talks about being color blind? I'm not a huge fan of the policy, but I wouldn't put it at the top of my list of racial issues in this country (let's start with the wealth gap, for example). The fact that conservatives do makes me think your motive has a lot more to do with dumping a program you don't like than any desire for racial harmony.

 

[Zebo]

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

MLK's 'dream' is dead with this guy.

 

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: Zebo
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

MLK's 'dream' is dead with this guy.

I'm pretty impressed with how you guys have managed to discover the problem of racism only when it's a black guy being a racist. :roll:

 

[Corn]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Dari
It's amazing how blatant African-Americans can be with their racism and nobody says anything.

I'm amazed how blatantly racist people like YOU can be, lumping everyone together because they've got the same racial background. One asshole says something and suddenly "African-Americans" are racist?

I can't believe I'm going to defend something Dari said, but nowhere did he state or imply that all "'African-Americans' are racist".

 

[LumbergTech]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm not a fan of Mencia but he did say something funny just after the election along the lines of, "Well, now that a black man is President I guess black jokes are no longer taboo.' Face it, once you've reached the most powerful position in the world (debatable), you are no longer being held down by 'the man'. Get over it.

rofl. How does one black man's victory speak for the entire African American community?

Oh? I thought it was a victory for everyone that brought the nation together? Or did I miss something? Change and all that jazz.

it doesnt change people like you unfortunately

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: Zebo
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

MLK's 'dream' is dead with this guy.

I'm pretty impressed with how you guys have managed to discover the problem of racism only when it's a black guy being a racist. :roll:

I'm amazed how racist you are when someone has a negative opinion towards blacks.

 

[ultra laser]

Everyone is racist. This is not the problem. The problem is trying to build a society that ignores this fact.

 

[Drift3r]

Bobby Rush is stupid. Hopefully he or anyone he supports is not put into office by the Governor. Obama would win many brownie points by endorsing someone who is not black to take his seat in order to show to the rest of America that he is not beholden to ambulance chasers.

 

[palehorse]

Senatorial Affirmative Action?

that's just swell.

 

[jackschmittusa]

"We don't want (Blagojevich) to short-circuit the will and the wisdom of the state of Illinois,"

The above quote is blatantly racist. Period! He makes it clear that we should see that the people of the state of Illinois demanded a black Senator. Nothing else counts concerning a replacement except that the person be black. I cannot see how any other interpretation can be valid.

Arguing whether racism is dead is a red herring as far as what to think about this guy and his personal crusade to make us believe that it would be an injustice to appoint anyone who is not black. I'll file him in the "assholes and idiots" folder of my mind.

 

[Red Dawn]

The guy's full of shit. First of all what's this have to do with being "National" It's all about one state.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm not a fan of Mencia but he did say something funny just after the election along the lines of, "Well, now that a black man is President I guess black jokes are no longer taboo.' Face it, once you've reached the most powerful position in the world (debatable), you are no longer being held down by 'the man'. Get over it.

rofl. How does one black man's victory speak for the entire African American community?

Oh? I thought it was a victory for everyone that brought the nation together? Or did I miss something? Change and all that jazz.

it doesnt change people like you unfortunately

Change people like me? What the hell are you talking about? YOU DON'T KNOW ME!!! (had to be done)

This may very well blow your mind, which can apparently only see black & white (metaphorically speaking), but I actually voted for... wait for it... Obama?

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: winnar111
Memo: A black man got elected President. You can STFU about racism now.

It's a step forward, but it sure as hell isn't the end of racism. Or if it is, a lot of people didn't seem to get the memo.

That said, this replacement nonsense is stupid. Appoint the best person for the job, period. Despite the big deal made about his race by Obama's detractors (and supporters), the man himself acted pretty color-blind...we need MORE of that if we really want to end racism.

Couldn't agree more. Obama winning the presidency doesn't mean racism ended. That said, this Bobby Rush guy isn't helping matters.

 

[piasabird]

They should just replace Obama with an undocumented worker.

Last time I was in Chicago it was hard to find anyong who could actually speak english.

 

[K1052]

Originally posted by: piasabird
They should just replace Obama with an undocumented worker.

Last time I was in Chicago it was hard to find anyong who could actually speak english.

The ironing is delicious.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm not a fan of Mencia but he did say something funny just after the election along the lines of, "Well, now that a black man is President I guess black jokes are no longer taboo.' Face it, once you've reached the most powerful position in the world (debatable), you are no longer being held down by 'the man'. Get over it.

rofl. How does one black man's victory speak for the entire African American community?

Oh? I thought it was a victory for everyone that brought the nation together? Or did I miss something? Change and all that jazz.

it doesnt change people like you unfortunately

Change people like me? What the hell are you talking about? YOU DON'T KNOW ME!!! (had to be done)

This may very well blow your mind, which can apparently only see black & white (metaphorically speaking), but I actually voted for... wait for it... Obama?

That's great that you voted for Obama. The idea that one black man succeeding means that tens of millions of people are no longer subject to racism is an awfully silly idea though.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Yeah, a black guy can...as long as he can fight through the problems associated with his skin color. This election had a lot of funky racial shit that NEVER would have come up even a little bit if Obama didn't have a different name and a different skin color. And it wasn't just a few idiots in West Virginia the media found to interview, throw in a couple of sheets and some of those McCain/Palin events could have been Klan rallies. Of course there is a certain amount of animosity between the two parties, but people brought it to a whole new level this time around...and if the reason WASN'T Obama's race, then they sure had a funny way of showing it.

And that's not even mentioning the racial bullshit from certain BLACK people in this election. We got the Klan idiots worried that Obama is too black, and Jesse Jackson saying he's not black enough. If you think those morons are just 5% of the population, I think you're fooling yourself.

Edit: And why is it that Affirmative Action is always first on the chopping block when a conservative talks about being color blind? I'm not a huge fan of the policy, but I wouldn't put it at the top of my list of racial issues in this country (let's start with the wealth gap, for example). The fact that conservatives do makes me think your motive has a lot more to do with dumping a program you don't like than any desire for racial harmony.

Exaggerate much? Yeah, someone, somewhere in the country is not going to like black people. That's inevitable in a nation of 300 million. And no, there wasn't significantly more dislike of Obama than there was of Kerry, and if there was, part of it is due to people thinking Obama is a batshit crazy liberal or a Muslim (which has to do with religion, not race).

Affirmative action is a direct institutional policy with a direct result. The wealth gap is at best a side effect of several different government and nongovernment factors. So why should we focus on that?

Not to mention theres some difference between a random hick and a Congressman. If a white Congressman showed this kind of race baiting, well, he'd be named Robert Byrd.

 

[Ozoned]

It would only be fair.

 

[mooseracing]

Originally posted by: dullard

Originally posted by: mooseracing
First, they need to end the African-American thing...it's getting old quick. I wish I could go around saying that the country should only have whites running it, otherwise it would be a disgrace to our founding fathers.

Yes, it is getting old quick. But there is no reason that you have to say there should only be whites, since with Obama gone, there WILL only be non-blacks in the senate.

I could care less what color people there are as long as the job gets done, which IMHO opinion isn't happening at all with anyone.

I was being sarcastic saying I wish I could say that, people right now are scared of lawsuits and want to be pc would probably fire my ass or someone would try to shoot me.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: LumbergTech

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269

Originally posted by: Evan

Originally posted by: Fingolfin269
I'm not a fan of Mencia but he did say something funny just after the election along the lines of, "Well, now that a black man is President I guess black jokes are no longer taboo.' Face it, once you've reached the most powerful position in the world (debatable), you are no longer being held down by 'the man'. Get over it.

rofl. How does one black man's victory speak for the entire African American community?

Oh? I thought it was a victory for everyone that brought the nation together? Or did I miss something? Change and all that jazz.

it doesnt change people like you unfortunately

Change people like me? What the hell are you talking about? YOU DON'T KNOW ME!!! (had to be done)

This may very well blow your mind, which can apparently only see black & white (metaphorically speaking), but I actually voted for... wait for it... Obama?

That's great that you voted for Obama. The idea that one black man succeeding means that tens of millions of people are no longer subject to racism is an awfully silly idea though.

Ah but where did I say racism ended on that day? This thread is in regards to his replacement 'must be black'. If anyone is being racist it's the dude calling for this ridiculous 'must'. Apparently he is only interested in race and cares nothing for what the people want.

You can read into my original statement any way you want. Some will see it one way while others will see it another. That was just my shot back at the racist calling for 'it must be a black man!' so take it for what it's worth.

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: winnar111
If its not the end of racism, its pretty damn close enough to it. Who gives a shit about 5% of the population stuck in the 50s?

You want to act color blind? Start by getting rid of affirmative action, because as has just been shown, a black man can do anything in this country if he wants to.

Yeah, a black guy can...as long as he can fight through the problems associated with his skin color. This election had a lot of funky racial shit that NEVER would have come up even a little bit if Obama didn't have a different name and a different skin color. And it wasn't just a few idiots in West Virginia the media found to interview, throw in a couple of sheets and some of those McCain/Palin events could have been Klan rallies. Of course there is a certain amount of animosity between the two parties, but people brought it to a whole new level this time around...and if the reason WASN'T Obama's race, then they sure had a funny way of showing it.

And that's not even mentioning the racial bullshit from certain BLACK people in this election. We got the Klan idiots worried that Obama is too black, and Jesse Jackson saying he's not black enough. If you think those morons are just 5% of the population, I think you're fooling yourself.

Edit: And why is it that Affirmative Action is always first on the chopping block when a conservative talks about being color blind? I'm not a huge fan of the policy, but I wouldn't put it at the top of my list of racial issues in this country (let's start with the wealth gap, for example). The fact that conservatives do makes me think your motive has a lot more to do with dumping a program you don't like than any desire for racial harmony.

I agree completely. Especially that last part. Affirmative action will not be necessary forever, but we are not quite ready to get rid of it completely yet. Hopefully, we will have that luxury sooner than later, but that decision lies in the hands of those who remain racist in this country. I don't think there is much more we can do than what we are already doing to end racism. It is just a matter of time now and we need to be patient. The need for affirmative action will end eventually. It will also not be something which we get rid of completely over night. It will need to be a gradual reduction.