Obama's kids go to a private school?

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: alphatarget1

Originally posted by: jonks

Originally posted by: alphatarget1
More hypocrisy from the person who preaches hope and change. I was waiting till the debates to decide, but I'm leaning more and more against Obamessiah.

Hypocrisy means saying one thing and doing another. I have never heard Obama say people shouldn't send their kids to private schools.

Other gems from the article:

"not only did John McCain?s four children attend elite private schools in Arizona, but collective donations to their children?s private schools between 2001 and 2006, totaled $500,000."

Rich bastard.

"And yes, I know I appear to be ranting on like a pit bull without lipstick, which brings me to the final nail in the coffin in this sorry election year."

Sexist!

McCains support educational vouchers so poor parents can send their kids to private schools/better schools.

This "community organizer" doesn't even want to send his kids to a public school. This is elitism at its best.

1) In practice, the large majority of funds in voucher programs end up going to families whose parents are already sending their kids to private schools, so the number of "poor" people who will be able to send their kids to a $20,000 private school with the coupon they get is minimal. And by giving those already affluent parents the lion's share of the funds, public schools are deprived of the money they need to provide a decent education.

2) you still haven't demonstrated hypocrisy so I think you just think it's a big bad word to throw around.

I do not agree. Alpha is demonstrating hypocisy. His own.

 

[Ldir]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Hypocrisy because he has the means to send his kids to the school of HIS choice but he denies that same right to the poor people who can't afford $20,000 a year tuition.

BTW that evil Palin sends her kids to the local public school. Shame on her for neglecting her kids education.

Taxpayers already pay for public schools. Those who want another choice can have it....at their own expense.

 

[Robor]

Originally posted by: alphatarget1
McCains support educational vouchers so poor parents can send their kids to private schools/better schools.

This "community organizer" doesn't even want to send his kids to a public school. This is elitism at its best.

This thread and post are trolling at its best.

 

[Vic]

Hypocrisy is claiming to believe in capitalism and free markets, and then acting the socialist by trying to force the taxpayers to pay for your kid's private school education because you can't (or won't) pay for it yourself.

If Obama can afford to send his kids to private schools, then more power to him. You Republican hacks and your class envy... :roll:

 

[heyheybooboo]

As wacky as this country has become I don't want to consider the implications of the children of the first black presidential candidate attending a public school. And that's kinda sad, really ...

And the voucher debate has passed its time - and failed. Good.

The only issue I have with charter schools are 'line-jumpers' whereby students from a nearby county cross school district (or county line) boundaries. I don't think it's fair for County 'A' to subsidize the children of a family from County 'B' who 'cross over'.

 

[lupi]

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: alphatarget1
McCains support educational vouchers so poor parents can send their kids to private schools/better schools.

This "community organizer" doesn't even want to send his kids to a public school. This is elitism at its best.

What you do not understand is that the public school system cannot afford to lose those kinds of funds. I know a lot of people like to believe that there is all of this fat to cut in the school system, but that just isn't the reality. At the very least, there isn't anywhere even close to the amount that would be necessary to cut in order to make up for what is needed to run our public schools. If McCain wants to tax the people more so that we can fund more private schools then so be it. Otherwise, I guarantee you that we will not benefit from those vouchers. They don't pay for the kids to go to those schools 100% and there are too many families which cannot afford to pay the rest. How does that help the poor? The end result is going to be more people with less education. I guarantee it.

This is just another example of people wanting everything but they don't want to pay for it.

Why not run schools like a buisness. If they suck they lose funds, maybe then some much needed changes would start to be shaken loose in the cobwebs running them.

 

[feralkid]

Originally posted by: lupi

Originally posted by: Xavier434

Originally posted by: alphatarget1
McCains support educational vouchers so poor parents can send their kids to private schools/better schools.

This "community organizer" doesn't even want to send his kids to a public school. This is elitism at its best.

What you do not understand is that the public school system cannot afford to lose those kinds of funds. I know a lot of people like to believe that there is all of this fat to cut in the school system, but that just isn't the reality. At the very least, there isn't anywhere even close to the amount that would be necessary to cut in order to make up for what is needed to run our public schools. If McCain wants to tax the people more so that we can fund more private schools then so be it. Otherwise, I guarantee you that we will not benefit from those vouchers. They don't pay for the kids to go to those schools 100% and there are too many families which cannot afford to pay the rest. How does that help the poor? The end result is going to be more people with less education. I guarantee it.

This is just another example of people wanting everything but they don't want to pay for it.

Why not run schools like a buisness. If they suck they lose funds, maybe then some much needed changes would start to be shaken loose in the cobwebs running them.

Where have you been the last seven years?

It's been tried and has proven to be an epic failure.

 

[Juddog]

This is a complete non-issue. For anybody to even look at this like an issue is mind-boggling.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Vic
blah blah blah I'm a Democrat hack blah blah :roll:

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Vic
Hypocrisy is claiming to believe in capitalism and free markets, and then acting the socialist by trying to force the taxpayers to pay for your kid's private school education because you can't (or won't) pay for it yourself.

If Obama can afford to send his kids to private schools, then more power to him. You Republican hacks and your class envy... :roll:

Kind of like health care, eh? Oh wait! :laugh:

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Vic
blah blah blah I'm a Democrat hack blah blah :roll:

This is the best I can get from a rabid Republican hack? How about you address the issues instead of lying?

And BTW, everyone here knows you'd still vote straight Pub ticket even if McCain embraced communism and Palin converted to Islam and wore the burka in public. What's worse is that we know that, in that unlikely event, you'd become a devout Muslim communist yourself and would post endlessly about its glories as though nothing had even changed.

So... :roll: to you too

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Vic
Hypocrisy is claiming to believe in capitalism and free markets, and then acting the socialist by trying to force the taxpayers to pay for your kid's private school education because you can't (or won't) pay for it yourself.

If Obama can afford to send his kids to private schools, then more power to him. You Republican hacks and your class envy... :roll:

Kind of like health care, eh? Oh wait! :laugh:

I'm opposed to UHC, but thanks for trolling.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Vic
Hypocrisy is claiming to believe in capitalism and free markets, and then acting the socialist by trying to force the taxpayers to pay for your kid's private school education because you can't (or won't) pay for it yourself.

If Obama can afford to send his kids to private schools, then more power to him. You Republican hacks and your class envy... :roll:

Kind of like health care, eh? Oh wait! :laugh:

I'm opposed to UHC, but thanks for trolling.

Too bad your candidate isn't.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Vic
Hypocrisy is claiming to believe in capitalism and free markets, and then acting the socialist by trying to force the taxpayers to pay for your kid's private school education because you can't (or won't) pay for it yourself.

If Obama can afford to send his kids to private schools, then more power to him. You Republican hacks and your class envy... :roll:

Kind of like health care, eh? Oh wait! :laugh:

I'm opposed to UHC, but thanks for trolling.

Too bad your candidate isn't.

But he opposed to unnecessary wars , you candidate isn't which I think is more important.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Vic
Hypocrisy is claiming to believe in capitalism and free markets, and then acting the socialist by trying to force the taxpayers to pay for your kid's private school education because you can't (or won't) pay for it yourself.

If Obama can afford to send his kids to private schools, then more power to him. You Republican hacks and your class envy... :roll:

Kind of like health care, eh? Oh wait! :laugh:

I'm opposed to UHC, but thanks for trolling.

Too bad your candidate isn't.

Too bad you don't even know where he stands on the issues. Obama's proposal is universal ACCESS to health care, not universal health care. There is a difference.

Your candidate proposes keeping the same system, which means health insurance for my wife and I, both perfectly healthy and in our late 30's, costs $700 per month. And for the record, that's up from $200 per month in 2001.

 

[pstylesss]

Why does this matter? I'm sure plenty of parents would rather have their kids in a private school if they could afford it. I've been to public, private, home schooled, private, then public again. I can tell you that the very best was the private school and the homeschooling.

It's sad that our public schools, on average, blow and any politicians goal should be to make it better... but if they can afford to send their kids to a school that they feel will be better for them then good for them.

I am a McCain supporter.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Vic
Hypocrisy is claiming to believe in capitalism and free markets, and then acting the socialist by trying to force the taxpayers to pay for your kid's private school education because you can't (or won't) pay for it yourself.

If Obama can afford to send his kids to private schools, then more power to him. You Republican hacks and your class envy... :roll:

Kind of like health care, eh? Oh wait! :laugh:

I'm opposed to UHC, but thanks for trolling.

Too bad your candidate isn't.

But he opposed to unnecessary wars , you candidate isn't which I think is more important.

That's because McCain and the war profiteering camp believe that it is patriotic to drain the treasury and bog down our armed forces in unnecessary wars, making it nearly impossible for us to fight necessary wars should that happen.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Vic
Too bad you don't even know where he stands on the issues. Obama's proposal is universal ACCESS to health care, not universal health care. There is a difference.

Your candidate proposes keeping the same system, which means health care for my wife and I, both perfectly healthy and in our late 30's, costs $700 per month. And for the record, that's up from $200 per month in 2001.

Denial, not just a river in Africa. :laugh:

You might want to read the man's own website, fully detailed with hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies and giveaways. Of course, you and your comrades have no problems with forcing the hands of taxpayers here.

Why should you have universal ACCESS, as you put it, to health care as Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?

Oh, and in his own words: "In the 2008 campaign, affordable, universal health care for every single American must not be a question of whether, it must be a question of how. We have the ideas, we have the resources, and we will have universal health care in this country by the end of the next president's first term."

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Vic
blah blah blah I'm a Democrat hack blah blah :roll:

waaah waaaah you're a rabid hack you're a liar. Lying liars. waaah waaaah.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Vic
blah blah blah I'm a Democrat hack blah blah :roll:

waaah waaaah you're a rabid hack you're a liar. Lying liars. waaah waaaah.

Vic came out of the closet?

 

[StageLeft]

Uh, so you want him to send his kids to mediocre schools even though he has the money to not need to ? That makes a great deal of sense.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: Vic
blah blah blah I'm a Democrat hack blah blah :roll:

waaah waaaah you're a rabid hack you're a liar. Lying liars. waaah waaaah.

I see you've stepped up the trolling. Either that or you started drinking early this morning.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Vic
Too bad you don't even know where he stands on the issues. Obama's proposal is universal ACCESS to health care, not universal health care. There is a difference.

Your candidate proposes keeping the same system, which means health care for my wife and I, both perfectly healthy and in our late 30's, costs $700 per month. And for the record, that's up from $200 per month in 2001.

Denial, not just a river in Africa. :laugh:

You might want to read the man's own website, fully detailed with hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies and giveaways. Of course, you and your comrades have no problems with forcing the hands of taxpayers here.

Why should you have universal ACCESS, as you put it, to health care as Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?

Oh, and in his own words: "In the 2008 campaign, affordable, universal health care for every single American must not be a question of whether, it must be a question of how. We have the ideas, we have the resources, and we will have universal health care in this country by the end of the next president's first term."

Thanks for proving that you don't know what you're talking here.

I forgot that you only like subsidies and giveaways with our taxdollars when they're going to churches, private schools, oil companies, and foreign govts.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Uh, so you want him to send his kids to mediocre schools even though he has the money to not need to ? That makes a great deal of sense.

But if Obama had a R before his name, they're praise him for being successful enough to send his kids to a private school. This is how these idiots think. Everything is group ideology. No matter what you actually DO in this life, you'll go to hell if you don't think exactly like they do.

 

[winnar111]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: winnar111

Originally posted by: Vic
Too bad you don't even know where he stands on the issues. Obama's proposal is universal ACCESS to health care, not universal health care. There is a difference.

Your candidate proposes keeping the same system, which means health care for my wife and I, both perfectly healthy and in our late 30's, costs $700 per month. And for the record, that's up from $200 per month in 2001.

Denial, not just a river in Africa. :laugh:

You might want to read the man's own website, fully detailed with hundreds of billions of dollars in subsidies and giveaways. Of course, you and your comrades have no problems with forcing the hands of taxpayers here.

Why should you have universal ACCESS, as you put it, to health care as Bill Gates and Warren Buffett?

Oh, and in his own words: "In the 2008 campaign, affordable, universal health care for every single American must not be a question of whether, it must be a question of how. We have the ideas, we have the resources, and we will have universal health care in this country by the end of the next president's first term."

blah blah blah I'm a Democrat hack blah blah

Better hope Obama doesn't change his position yet again....you're gonna have to change along with him.

Next thing, you and the rest of the socialists will be calling for equal ACCESS to the New York Stock Exchange trading floor.