Obama's health plan caused my rates to double.

quackerww

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Obama's health plan caused my rates to double.
Next year I have to pay $40 from $19
My mother has to pay $230 from $130

We are on different providers.
Thanks Obama.

You just allowed the insurgence industry to price gouge.
Either pass this bill or stop fucking around.
 

Strk

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Is there still the plan to make this one of the largest tax increases in this country's history?
 

Ausm

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How can you say your rates have raised when the bill is nowhere near the final version?
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: Strk
Is there still the plan to make this one of the largest tax increases in this country's history?

GHWB had to do that to cover all the money spent during the Reagan years.
 

Athena

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Originally posted by: quackerww
Obama's health plan caused my rates to double.
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You just allowed the insurgence industry to price gouge.
Either pass this bill or stop fucking around.
The changes you're seeing were in the works 6 months ago. Your employer got a notice from your old carrier about premium increases around Easter. That prompted a search for an alternate carrier and endless negotiations with multiple companies. The legislative proposals had zero impact on what you are seeing.

This is exactly why I thought they should have waited until November before starting with the legislative proposals. IMO White House and Congress went about this in the wrong way. They should have started with listening tours engaging patients and doctors. They shoud not have even talked to the insurance companies, big pharma and hospital companies until they had listened to the people at the end of the chain.
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: quackerww
Obama's health plan caused my rates to double.
Next year I have to pay $40 from $19
My mother has to pay $230 from $130

We are on different providers.
Thanks Obama.

You just allowed the insurgence industry to price gouge.
Either pass this bill or stop fucking around.

You ain't seen nothing yet.

Expect to be adding some more zeros on there bud.
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: quackerww
Obama's health plan caused my rates to double.
Next year I have to pay $40 from $19
My mother has to pay $230 from $130

We are on different providers.
Thanks Obama.

You just allowed the insurgence industry to price gouge.
Either pass this bill or stop fucking around.

Is your insurance through your employers? If so, you should be talking to them. Oh, and my rates and deductibles have gone up the past 3 years. I guess that's Obama's fault too. :roll:
 

Fingolfin269

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: quackerww
Obama's health plan caused my rates to double.
Next year I have to pay $40 from $19
My mother has to pay $230 from $130

We are on different providers.
Thanks Obama.

You just allowed the insurgence industry to price gouge.
Either pass this bill or stop fucking around.

Is your insurance through your employers? If so, you should be talking to them. Oh, and my rates and deductibles have gone up the past 3 years. I guess that's Obama's fault too. :roll:

Everything is the current President's fault. He just happens to be the current one. Didn't you get that memo?
 

quackerww

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: quackerww
Obama's health plan caused my rates to double.
Next year I have to pay $40 from $19
My mother has to pay $230 from $130

We are on different providers.
Thanks Obama.

You just allowed the insurgence industry to price gouge.
Either pass this bill or stop fucking around.

Is your insurance through your employers? If so, you should be talking to them. Oh, and my rates and deductibles have gone up the past 3 years. I guess that's Obama's fault too. :roll:

I am on basic health Washington.

State health care. =/
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: Robor
Originally posted by: quackerww
Obama's health plan caused my rates to double.
Next year I have to pay $40 from $19
My mother has to pay $230 from $130

We are on different providers.
Thanks Obama.

You just allowed the insurgence industry to price gouge.
Either pass this bill or stop fucking around.

Is your insurance through your employers? If so, you should be talking to them. Oh, and my rates and deductibles have gone up the past 3 years. I guess that's Obama's fault too. :roll:

My Insurance rates have gone up steadily for the last 20 years and the deductible keeps getting higher with less coverage...I will blame Obama for that too ;) The company I work for has also changed insurance carries at least 7 times in this timeframe too.
 

boomerang

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Wait till they ram this through. It's going to be even more expensive.
Couldn't you have broke it to them a little easier?

Wait until the young folks find out to what degree they're subsidizing the old folks. This is going to be great!!
 

surfsatwerk

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I won't be happy with health care reform until there's less talk of death panels and more talk of Soylent Green.
 

spidey07

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Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: spidey07
Wait till they ram this through. It's going to be even more expensive.
Couldn't you have broke it to them a little easier?

Wait until the young folks find out to what degree they're subsidizing the old folks. This is going to be great!!

Sadly the young folks are going to have a "wait...what!?" moment. This isn't what dear leader sold us! This sucks!
 

boomerang

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: spidey07
Wait till they ram this through. It's going to be even more expensive.
Couldn't you have broke it to them a little easier?

Wait until the young folks find out to what degree they're subsidizing the old folks. This is going to be great!!

Sadly the young folks are going to have a "wait...what!?" moment. This isn't what dear leader sold us! This sucks!
"dear leader" - I love it! Made my day!
 

boomerang

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Originally posted by: Strk
Is there still the plan to make this one of the largest tax increases in this country's history?
No ,no ,no, that would be Cap and Trade.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: spidey07
Wait till they ram this through. It's going to be even more expensive.
Couldn't you have broke it to them a little easier?

Wait until the young folks find out to what degree they're subsidizing the old folks. This is going to be great!!

Sadly the young folks are going to have a "wait...what!?" moment. This isn't what dear leader sold us! This sucks!

By then it will be too late. Tennessee has UHC... it had to be reigned in because it would have bankrupted the state. All the people getting free medical care but up a hella good fight trying to sue the state to prevent any changes. Rather than accept reforms like having to pay co-pays and such... they ended up just got kicked off the rolls.

I can just imagine this mess on a federal level.
 

Modelworks

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Originally posted by: Red Irish
Originally posted by: quackerww
Obama's health plan caused my rates to double.

Maybe you have double the coverage ;)

You can't have double the coverage, they will call it a Cadillac plan if you do and tax it even more.

Stupidest thing I ever heard, you can't buy all the insurance you want, just what they determine you need.
 

Harvey

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Originally posted by: quackerww

Obama's health plan caused my rates to double.

BULLSHIT! "Obama's health care plan" doesn't exist, yet so IT didn't cost you anything. In fact, there is no definition of "Obama's health care plan" until Congress passes a bill, and Obama signs it. If your rates doubled, and you nothing has changed in whatever they say they consider in setting your rates, it's because your insurer stuck it to you for their own greedy purposes.

Complaining to your insurer probably won't do any good. They have you by the short ones, and your options probably run between little to none.

This is exactly why we need a public option to offer a real alternative to their treachery and to repeal the insurance industry's exemption from anti-trust laws.
 

boomerang

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Originally posted by: rudder
Originally posted by: spidey07
Originally posted by: boomerang
Originally posted by: spidey07
Wait till they ram this through. It's going to be even more expensive.
Couldn't you have broke it to them a little easier?

Wait until the young folks find out to what degree they're subsidizing the old folks. This is going to be great!!

Sadly the young folks are going to have a "wait...what!?" moment. This isn't what dear leader sold us! This sucks!

By then it will be too late. Tennessee has UHC... it had to be reigned in because it would have bankrupted the state. All the people getting free medical care but up a hella good fight trying to sue the state to prevent any changes. Rather than accept reforms like having to pay co-pays and such... they ended up just got kicked off the rolls.

I can just imagine this mess on a federal level.
It truly is some scary shit - and I'm in the camp that feels we really need reform.