Obama wants to raise cig tax

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Vdubchaos

Lifer
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At current price and with my old/expired habit of smoking a pack a day + 1 pack for my wife.

THat would be $20 per day x 31 = $620

JESUS FUCKIN CHRIST

And here I was thinking that people were stupid for smoking for health reasons. Now I think they are even dumber with financial reasons in mind.

But hey, more power to government/Cig companies.
 

Matt1970

Lifer
Mar 19, 2007
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Just remember, it's not your fault. You were lured in by big tobacco advertising and misled about its dangers. To make it up to you we will tax the shit out of it.
 

brandonb

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Oct 17, 2006
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I have the right to choose with my body!

(I don't use Tobacco but I never understood why people care if people smoke.)
 

MustISO

Lifer
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Good. I'm completely fine with heavily taxing things that are recreational, unhealthy or luxury items.

I don't smoke but I do drink and if they raise the tax I'm fine with it. I'll pay the extra money to drink if I choose to buy alcohol.

If you can afford $80,000 - $100,000 for a car you can afford to pay more in taxes than the person who can barely afford a $20,000 car. Same would go for houses, jewelry, etc.
 

etrigan420

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Oct 30, 2007
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Just remember, it's not your fault. You were lured in by big tobacco advertising and misled about its dangers. To make it up to you we will tax the shit out of it.

No, *you* need to remember that corporations bear no responsibility when the product they sell causes death and disease, then market said product to kids!

To make up for that we'll give it away for free.
 

Annisman*

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Aug 20, 2010
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Get rid of Medicaid/Medicare support for smoking related sickness and let everybody smoke as much as they want. However, when that person gets lung cancer, rich, poor, or in between, it's on them to pay for their own medical treatment.

So now we have cause and effect both in the hands of a single individual, those who aren't complete idiots will benefit. And everybody will benefit by paying less taxes to the enormous social programs we've created.

Anyone who just wants to smoke still, let them, and leave them alone. They will now be responsible for paying their own way if something arises from it.
 

sourn

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Dec 26, 2012
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Fine. Let's do it to the fatties as well. Maybe mandatory exercise for all citizens or else tax heavily and deny any healthcare.


Don't forget the retards, and I don't mean the mentally handicapped. The government sits there and whines about this and that and how much so so cost.

But hey lets give away some ammo, guns, jets, or hell lets just give other countries cash. MMMM well that's just fucking brilliant isn't it.
 

Pr0d1gy

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Don't forget the retards, and I don't mean the mentally handicapped. The government sits there and whines about this and that and how much so so cost.

But hey lets give away some ammo, guns, jets, or hell lets just give other countries cash. MMMM well that's just fucking brilliant isn't it.

On that note, I am gonna go smoke a cig from the pack that cost me $3.25 hahah
 

jackschmittusa

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I love how everyone generalizes about smokers, so I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in.

I've been smoking for more than 50 years. I could buy smokes at almost every store since I was 12. Nobody cared. The vast majority of movie stars smoked, men and women. Many of them advertised them (John Wayne was a biggie). Many TV shows were primarily paid for with tobacco advertising. My parents smoked, aunts and uncles, cousins. Hospital rooms came with ashtrays and matches. You were even allowed to smoke in the restrooms at movie theaters. Both the military and the VA found many ways to sell them tax free. I was paying 12 cents a pack back then. Generals and admirals smoked in public. I was a dedicated smoker before any warnings ever appeared on the packs.

This was the culture where both my wife and I learned to smoke and became addicted.

When smokes hit a dollar a pack, I tried quitting for monetary reasons. I tried 3 or 4 time over a couple of years. I became mean and irritable every time. It made me agitated to the point where I didn't even like myself. I eventually gave up trying.

The original government report about secondhand smoke turned out to be pure bullshit, full of fabricated conclusions and faulty data. Some people still cite it with the same fervor as the vaccine loonies do with their discredited research.

Neither my wife nor I have ever incurred any health costs directly attributable to smoking. Though heart disease is genetically rampant on my side of the family, I am already past the previous record of 61 by my male relatives. My wife's father died of a s couple of strokes and her mother of a heart attack. Both were almost 80 and had been smokers all of their lives.

If I knew I had only 10 minutes to live, I'd light up a $20 cigar and do large swigs of 12 year old Scotch.

I offer this to all of those who consider all smokers to be ignorant dumb asses. Consider your perspective broadened.
 

Matt1970

Lifer
Mar 19, 2007
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I love how everyone generalizes about smokers, so I thought I'd throw my 2 cents in.

I've been smoking for more than 50 years. I could buy smokes at almost every store since I was 12. Nobody cared. The vast majority of movie stars smoked, men and women. Many of them advertised them (John Wayne was a biggie). Many TV shows were primarily paid for with tobacco advertising. My parents smoked, aunts and uncles, cousins. Hospital rooms came with ashtrays and matches. You were even allowed to smoke in the restrooms at movie theaters. Both the military and the VA found many ways to sell them tax free. I was paying 12 cents a pack back then. Generals and admirals smoked in public. I was a dedicated smoker before any warnings ever appeared on the packs.

This was the culture where both my wife and I learned to smoke and became addicted.

When smokes hit a dollar a pack, I tried quitting for monetary reasons. I tried 3 or 4 time over a couple of years. I became mean and irritable every time. It made me agitated to the point where I didn't even like myself. I eventually gave up trying.

The original government report about secondhand smoke turned out to be pure bullshit, full of fabricated conclusions and faulty data. Some people still cite it with the same fervor as the vaccine loonies do with their discredited research.

Neither my wife nor I have ever incurred any health costs directly attributable to smoking. Though heart disease is genetically rampant on my side of the family, I am already past the previous record of 61 by my male relatives. My wife's father died of a s couple of strokes and her mother of a heart attack. Both were almost 80 and had been smokers all of their lives.

If I knew I had only 10 minutes to live, I'd light up a $20 cigar and do large swigs of 12 year old Scotch.

I offer this to all of those who consider all smokers to be ignorant dumb asses. Consider your perspective broadened.

You are the exception pal. There are people who die in their 30’s because of smoking.