Obama urging for $50B spending to cover states' shortcomings.

[nageov3t]

No, the World won't end, but Education of Students will be affected. Something that can have negative consequences whose affects will reverberate for Decades.

unfortunately, hiring 1-1 teachers for every single student in the US isn't practical.

concessions have to be made to account for budgets, even within the realm of education.

 

[sandorski]

unfortunately, hiring 1-1 teachers for every single student in the US isn't practical.

concessions have to be made to account for budgets, even within the realm of education.

There comes a point where you draw a line in the sand. The Current situation is one of those times, since it's less about Fiscal Discipline and all about Economic factors that have temporarily affected Revenues. Some States might very well have some room for Cuts, but it is very unlikely that most States have the ability to do so without causing Damage that's best avoided.

 

[ElFenix]

how about they lay off school administrators rather than teachers?

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Fail, sorry. This is not meant to Fix "Bankruptcy"(which is a false statement to begin with). It is meant to maintain essential Services during an Economic Downturn. I realize that doesn't invoke the necessary Outrage talking point, but it is the truth of the matter.

It's also true that governments fix problems by spending more money to do the same things badly, then want to fix it by spending more money rather than fixing the inherent problems with their systems.

"Let's expand Medicaid!"

Medicaid is an expensive inefficient money pit. So let's add more people without fixing that.

Same old song.

 

[sandorski]

how about they lay off school administrators rather than teachers?

I suspect that's where most of the Fat is. Assuming there is Fat. I'm not sure how this got all focused on Education though, only a portion(likely fairly small) will be spent on Education.

 

[BoberFett]

Perhaps, but it isn't necessarily ensuring their ability to maintain Essential Services either.

According to Democrats and other similar mental midgets, everything is essential. This is why you see states like California and New York threaten to shut down fire and police departments rather than actual non-essential services.

 

[sandorski]

According to Democrats and other similar mental midgets, everything is essential. This is why you see states like California and New York threaten to shut down fire and police departments rather than actual non-essential services.

It doesn't take a Democrat to see that you're full of Fail , sir.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

how about they lay off school administrators rather than teachers?

In NY they have started stealing (and that's the proper word) from our taxes which are dedicated by law to education to pay for -wait for it- increased medicaid spending.

They've removed any property tax relief ( which is at THE highest rate in the nation), want to bump it up some more, and not spend it on schools, administration OR teachers. It's earmarked for education, but they are ignoring that. Of course a lot of people are upset, but guess who they have to appeal to? The ones who are taking the money to begin with.

$50 billion wouldn't fix NY's problems, much less a bunch of other states.

 

[umbrella39]

Obama yet again finds a way to screw America to save his union buddies.

Trying to help local governments keep their police, firefighters, and teachers is screwing America... got it...

 

[BoberFett]

It doesn't take a Democrat to see that you're full of Fail , sir.

You're from Canada. Nobody gives a shit what you think.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You're from Canada. Nobody gives a shit what you think.

Well it's true that his opinion about NY is as valid as is mine of Canada, which wouldn't be. That's because I haven't a clue as how bad or good his government is, and he hasn't one about ours.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Trying to help local governments keep their police, firefighters, and teachers is screwing America... got it...

How about not screwing things up so this wouldn't have been an issue to begin with? Naa.

 

[Patranus]

Trying to help local governments keep their police, firefighters, and teachers is screwing America... got it...

Because only firefighters, teachers, and police are the one areas government can cut......got it....

The reason those sectors are mentioned so often is that government knows it can extort more money out of the taxpayer rather than saying they are going to cut XYZ other services. The politician has found a way to have it both ways.

 

[sandorski]

You're from Canada. Nobody gives a shit what you think.

There you go again, always with the Fail.

 

[nageov3t]

There you go again, always with the Fail.

nah, it's pretty true.

1 American opinion is worth like 10 Canadian opinions

 

[sandorski]

nah, it's pretty true.

1 American opinion is worth like 10 Canadian opinions

That's only because of Metric Conversion.

 

[MotF Bane]

You guys are wasting your time answering sandorski. The ignore list is the best way to deal with idiots.

 

[BoberFett]

There you go again, always with the Fail.

Oh, I failed at calling you a Canadian? It's worse than I thought. You're from Quebec, aren't you?

 

[sandorski]

You guys are wasting your time answering sandorski. The ignore list is the best way to deal with idiots.

Indeed it is, however it is I you should be recommending Ignore to.

 

[Hacp]

You don't know how much some of these teachers with tenure are making. They're making a butload! With a pension! Plus they can't be fired!

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

You don't know how much some of these teachers with tenure are making. They're making a butload! With a pension! Plus they can't be fired!

I have a suggestion.

Why don't you start a "Bitch here about what other people are earning" thread. That way you can complain about everyone else and what they make. It would run for 3 full pages and that's before anyone else posted.

 

[piasabird]

One of the largests costs other than buildings is the price of textbooks. I think textbooks is one of the biggest rip-offs on the face of the earth.

 

[nick1985]

AFSCME is cheering and filling the (D) coffers now.

 

[piasabird]

Just say No to spending. Retire people early and make new hires at lower rates and almost no benefits.

 

[nageov3t]

One of the largests costs other than buildings is the price of textbooks. I think textbooks is one of the biggest rip-offs on the face of the earth.

I imagine that schools probably don't pay the same price as students in a college campus bookstore and, at least when I was in grammar school, the schools owned the books and reused them from year to year for different classes.

we had to buy our own books in high school, but I went to a private school... I'm pretty sure that my sister didn't have to in public school.