Obama trades one, for five Gitmo

Zorkorist

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Apparently Obama is fed up with criticism of the way the Veteran's Administration has been run during his watch.

He's hereby ready and willing to negotiate with terrorists.

-John
 

fskimospy

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We have always negotiated with terrorists.

Also, what makes you think the Taliban are terrorists?

If you think it's a bad deal or that we shouldn't have done it, explain why. Don't just emotionally rant.
 

JEDIYoda

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Apparently Obama is fed up with criticism of the way the Veteran's Administration has been run during his watch.

He's hereby ready and willing to negotiate with terrorists.

-John
Who gives a flying anything what you sign your rant........
You have no clue!
 

Zorkorist

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Please address my questions...

How would you fix the VA scandal?

How would you tell your loved one you can't help her live?

-John
 

MongGrel

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Apparently Obama is fed up with criticism of the way the Veteran's Administration has been run during his watch.

He's hereby ready and willing to negotiate with terrorists.

-John
Just go away.

I doubt you're a vet to begin with.
 

Zorkorist

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And convenient how this happens, when Obama is being blown up for VA hospital atrocities.

-John
 

brycejones

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OP we already have a thread on this subject. Go ply your wag the dog scenario there.

But hopefully you feel better after getting this off your chest.
 

MongGrel

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You little Veteran... go crawl some place and die.

-John

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Zorkorist

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Or it could be a picture of a dying veteran, ignored by the Veteran's association.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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I really hate dealing with people in real life that have probably never done a damned thing in RL and can only run their fucking fingers on a keyboard.

Right, No one is as good as you.

Your sword, is mightier than anyone's pen.

-John
 

MongGrel

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Always is in reality, the guys with the swords rewrite what ever they care to.

To the victor go the spoils, ever heard of that one ?
 

MooseNSquirrel

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"As George Washington did, as James Madison did, as Abraham Lincoln did, our current president decided to make a trade. Sergeant Bowe Beghdahl, promoted in absentia twice since his capture in Afghanistan, is now free. We let loose five of theirs to regain the only American held by the enemy. This is not something new, it is a return to the old. Those who oppose the idea are taking offense with George Washington, James Madison, and Abraham Lincoln."
 

ivwshane

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Umm according to the Geneva convention of which we agreed to, at the end of a war all POW's are to be released. Considering that these guys aren't terrorist and aren't apart of al queda, that makes them POW's. Not negotiating now to get our guys back would have been a PR disaster (basically all the Afghanistan government would have to do is point out this clause in the treaty and yell "liars").

It's one of those things idiots, like the OP, don't understand and it's something dirty politicians use to score political points with those same idiots.

See page 133

http://www.icrc.org/applic/ihl/ihl....01D004C12563CD002D6B3E/FULLTEXT/GC-III-EN.pdf
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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They are/were Terrorists.

-John


Says some John Doe on the Internet.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/06/01/bergdahl-release-taliban-prisoner-trade/9835759/

"This is a legitimate prisoner swap," said Peter Mansoor, a retired Army colonel and professor of military history at Ohio State University.
He pointed out that the Taliban was ruling Afghanistan when U.S. forces went in to topple the government after Sept. 11, 2001. "I would have much more heartburn if these were al-Qaeda leaders" that were released, Mansoor said.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m...uz-us-policy-has-changed-now-we-make-deals-t/

http://m.gulfnews.com/opinion/us-authorities-right-in-negotiating-with-taliban-1.1342180


It must suck to be so easily mislead by your handlers!
 

QuantumPion

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Apparently the guy they traded for is not only a deserter, but may in fact have helped the enemy kill American troops. And 6 American troops have died in the original search for him. He has been quoted openly bashing the US, and his father is praising Allah and whatnot. Wonder if this guy was a plant or what.

Oh, and this prisoner swap was done by Obama without the legal authority to do so, Congressional authority is required to release Gitmo prisoners. Not only that, but Obama just stated not 6 months ago that we would not negotiate with terrorists and he would go through congress for any Gitmo prisoner concerns. This story is like 10 scandals in one. Wow.
 

brycejones

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Apparently the guy they traded for is not only a deserter, but may in fact have helped the enemy kill American troops. And 6 American troops have died in the original search for him. He has been quoted openly bashing the US, and his father is praising Allah and whatnot. Wonder if this guy was a plant or what.

Oh, and this prisoner swap was done by Obama without the legal authority to do so, Congressional authority is required to release Gitmo prisoners. Not only that, but Obama just stated not 6 months ago that we would not negotiate with terrorists and he would go through congress for any Gitmo prisoner concerns. This story is like 10 scandals in one. Wow.

Benghazi!
 

sportage

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What would Ronnie Reagan do?????
Oh, I remember.
He negotiated with terrorist.

 
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