Obama to sign executive order on Immigration Reform

[ivwshane]

spinning spinning spinning.

If Obama is not stopping deportations with his actions today, and DACA, then what exactly is he doing?


PS Obama's deportation numbers are a lie
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...amned-lies-and-obamas-deportation-statistics/

Every single one of your fucking questions has been addressed by links I have supplied you. I'll be happy to answer your questions when you finish reading them.

 

[michal1980]

Every single one of your fucking questions has been addressed by links I have supplied you. I'll be happy to answer your questions when you finish reading them.

your posts are a lie.

you are denying reality time and time again.

There's no point in talking to you, because in your bubble Obama can't do anything wrong.

 

[ivwshane]

your posts are a lie.

you are denying reality time and time again.

There's no point in talking to you, because in your bubble Obama can't do anything wrong.

CBD in the flesh folks! When presented with evidence that might be contrary to his bubble, instead of refuting them, he declares it all lies! All before even having looked at the evidence!

Don't worry kid, your bubble is safe


Stupid wins again!

 

[michal1980]

CBD in the flesh folks! When presented with evidence that might be contrary to his bubble, instead of refuting them, he declares it all lies! All before even having looked at the evidence!

Don't worry kid, your bubble is safe


Stupid wins again!

Your the one that was presented with evidence that contradicted your position time and time again, and you just spun it, and ignored it.

Your the one with the defect.

 

[ivwshane]

Your the one that was presented with evidence that contradicted your position time and time again, and you just spun it, and ignored it.

Your the one with the defect.

Yep, my defect is thinking idiots like you could actually be reached by facts. I guess I'm the stupid one, right?

 

[Jaskalas]

This is a brilliant move by President Obama.

1: He gets what he wants, Amnesty.
2: He forces Republicans to shut up and agree... or divide themselves.

America is fundamentally transformed AND the GOP is destroyed.
Win/Win.

Remember folks, HALF the Republicans want Amnesty. Do not forget the !@#$ Bush and McCain pulled eight years ago.

 

[michal1980]

Yep, my defect is thinking idiots like you could actually be reached by facts. I guess I'm the stupid one, right?

you asked what laws Obama has ignored, evidence was presented, you denied it.

 

[michal1980]

This is a brilliant move by President Obama.

1: He gets what he wants, Amnesty.
2: He forces Republicans to shut up and agree... or divide themselves.

America is fundamentally transformed AND the GOP is destroyed.
Win/Win.

Remember folks, HALF the Republicans want Amnesty. Do not forget the !@#$ Bush and McCain pulled eight years ago.

He loves destroying american jobs.

 

[ivwshane]

you asked what laws Obama has ignored, evidence was presented, you denied it.

So by ignoring laws are you telling me there are no more deportations happening? Because unless there are now zero deportations, he hasn't ignored any law.

Words have meanings, do you need a dictionary to help you out?

 

[michal1980]

So by ignoring laws are you telling me there are no more deportations happening? Because unless there are now zero deportations, he hasn't ignored any law.

Words have meanings, do you need a dictionary to help you out?

By choosing not to deport people, he is ignoring the law that says they should be deported.


Yes word do have meanings.

 

[cabri]

So by ignoring laws are you telling me there are no more deportations happening? Because unless there are now zero deportations, he hasn't ignored any law.

Words have meanings, do you need a dictionary to help you out?

Obama has stated that even if a person should be deported by law; even if ICE has the ability to deport that person, ICE will not do so.

That last phrase is called ignoring the law.

 

[nixium]

Well said. No more Executive Orders, no more signing statements.


Bullshit. Obama promising to revoke his Executive Order is valid only if he gets everything he wants, leaving him in his self-appointed position as Emperor. (I say that because he's now doing what he said he could not do because he was not Emperor, and after these midterms it's damned sure the American people didn't raise him.)


Could be, but the Pubby leadership is also pro-illegal, so it's a double edged sword for them.

Actually this would be a good point to clear up some confusion I have. I assumed that by passing a bill, these EOs could be rolled back regardless of whether Obama wants them or not, by including the adequate language in the bill. That's not true? It's something he has to do?

 

[BoomerD]

Is anyone else surprised that the "big 4' networks aren't going to preempt their regular programming to carry O'Bummer's speech tonight?
At this time, it looks like the only "non-news" network that WILL carry it live is Univision...:whiste:

 

[michal1980]

Is anyone else surprised that the "big 4' networks aren't going to preempt their regular programming to carry O'Bummer's speech tonight?
At this time, it looks like the only "non-news" network that WILL carry it live is Univision...:whiste:

President didnt request his speech be covered.

 

[theeedude]

He loves destroying american jobs.

Boohoohoo. Cry me a river.
American jobs? These jobs don't have a nationality.
You sound like a protectionist.

-I won't buy these vegetables, because they were picked by an illegal.
-I won't move into this house, because it was built by an illegal.
-I won't crap in this toilet, because it was cleaned by an illegal.

SAID NO ONE, EVER

The free market has decided, it doesn't care about immigration status.
If you are unproductive and can't compete, don't expect the government to protect you from foreign labor.

 

[ivwshane]

Obama has stated that even if a person should be deported by law; even if ICE has the ability to deport that person, ICE will not do so.

That last phrase is called ignoring the law.

Nope! It's called prioritizing resources. It's why the number of deported illegals with criminal backgrounds has gone up. It's a temporary fix to a long standing problem. A problem which people like you will complain about and then chastise the very people who are trying to fix the problem. It's people like you who focus on the wrong people and who let those who are in charge and whose purpose is to fix issues, let them get away with doing nothing.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/15/politics/immigration/

The change is part of a department effort to target resources at illegal immigrants who pose a greater threat, such as criminals and those trying to enter the country now, Napolitano said, adding it was "well within the framework of existing laws."

From Obama:

"This is not amnesty. This is not immunity. This is not a path to citizenship. It's not a permanent fix," Obama said to take on conservative criticism of the step. "This is a temporary stopgap measure."

It's the equivalent of you hating your mom because she said she's going to beat both you and your sister if you both don't stop hitting each other. Your mom is using her power to get both of you to stop hitting each other, it's a threat to get you to get along if you stop hitting each other she won't have to beat your ass

Basically the president is now the parent in chief. Tell congress to stop acting like children and he won't have to beat their ass

 

[boomerang]

President didnt request his speech be covered.

Yup. Knowing that the majority of the nation does not want him taking these actions won't stop him. But he does understand the benefits of keeping the nation from being aware of his actions. The ever compliant media is more than willing to help him out in this regard.

But it remains to be seen what actually transpires tonight. It's possible we could be in for a surprise.

 

[boomerang]

Aren't those numbers just inflated BS?

Those are the numbers the regime has cranked out that the media and Obama's faithful followers gladly swallow. When one looks at the manner in which those numbers were tabulated, it becomes clear that they are double speak. Cross the border and caught as you are doing so? You have been deported and counted. It's all bullshit.

 

[ivwshane]

Yup. Knowing that the majority of the nation does not want him taking these actions won't stop him. But he does understand the benefits of keeping the nation from being aware of his actions. The ever compliant media is more than willing to help him out in this regard.

But it remains to be seen what actually transpires tonight. It's possible we could be in for a surprise.

You misinterpreted the polls; the public prefers, as does Obama, congress to handle immigration reform. So where is congress on this issue? Well we already know that the senate passed a bi partisan bill so I guess the question becomes; where is the action from the house on this issue?

Republicans are playing a dangerous political game, Obama has nothing to lose while republicans have everything to lose, credibility, 2016 seats, and the Latino vote.

Sounds like a checkmate to me

 

[ivwshane]

Those are the numbers the regime has cranked out that the media and Obama's faithful followers gladly swallow. When one looks at the manner in which those numbers were tabulated, it becomes clear that they are double speak. Cross the border and caught as you are doing so? You have been deported and counted. It's all bullshit.

So they should have let them in first and then deported them? Lol!

Your claim of fake numbers has already been addressed. Your claim is along the same lines as the bullshit claim that unemployment numbers are cooked. FYI, illegal immigration policies under Clinton were changed, which bush continued as has Obama.

 

[Matt1970]

You misinterpreted the polls; the public prefers, as does Obama, congress to handle immigration reform. So where is congress on this issue? Well we already know that the senate passed a bi partisan bill so I guess the question becomes; where is the action from the house on this issue?

Republicans are playing a dangerous political game, Obama has nothing to lose while republicans have everything to lose, credibility, 2016 seats, and the Latino vote.

Sounds like a checkmate to me

Put the Kool Aid down son. Obama's overreaching is what the people do not want and he cost the Dems the last election.

 

[michal1980]

Boohoohoo. Cry me a river.
American jobs? These jobs don't have a nationality.
You sound like a protectionist.

-I won't buy these vegetables, because they were picked by an illegal.
-I won't move into this house, because it was built by an illegal.
-I won't crap in this toilet, because it was cleaned by an illegal.

SAID NO ONE, EVER

The free market has decided, it doesn't care about immigration status.
If you are unproductive and can't compete, don't expect the government to protect you from foreign labor.

So when will your said stop complaining about low pay?

 

[WackyDan]

Where do you people come up with this shit?

http://www.politifact.com/punditfac...e-imus-more-illegal-immigrants-pouring-now-u/

What the flying fuck is your point? Mine stands... Your seems to be some sort of half assed deflection.

 

[WackyDan]

Sounds to me like you are going to hold your nose and vote Democrat when all is said and done. :thumbsup: I think Romney is about as reasonable a Republican (short of Huntsman) that GOP could have picked in that primary, and he wasn't good enough for you.

Boomer said it was because Mitt was a Mormon.

 

[rpanic]

I consider myself a left leaning centrist on most things, that being said fuck Obama he is just as bad as Reagan now in my book. Screw demarcates and their selling out our own citizens for entitlement voters, and screw republicans for selling out for a quick buck at the cost of our future. This is all just going to dumb down and divide our population. Remember all of you extreme liberals the pendulum will eventually swing to the other extreme when it’s done going left, this has happened throughout history and a lot of people will suffer for it unfortunately.