Obama to Kill Tomahawk, Hellfire Missile Programs

[rommelrommel]

Prowlers and Growlers systematically reduce the capability of radar missile networks. In other words kill them or make them turn off all together.
And as Eskimospy pointed out. We have 50% more Tomahawks than we have ever used in our stock pile. If we ever got into a real shooting war with Russia. We can fire up the production lines again.

I don't disagree with your overall point but history has shown that it's very cost/time prohibitive to restart production lines.

Thus, building up a decent stockpile and having a replacement in sight (at least before projected depletement) is a reasonable strategy.

 

[JEDIYoda]

That's like saying Obama to kill the nuclear weapon...lololol

 

[JEDIYoda]

history has shown

okay.....hmmmm

 

[rommelrommel]

Show a production line that gets restarted?

This isn't 1940 anymore. Your skilled labour and specific knowledge will deteriorate and disperse.

 

[thraashman]

How does a single Borg ship have the payload to destroy an entire planet?

And don't give me that "assimilation of Death Star computer system crap."
Those imperial access codes are all super secret. Only top Imperial Brass, many, many Bothan spies, and a dashing space smuggler and his pet bear have access to those!

I think we should all know that Kyle Katarn was the one who retrieved the plans to the first Death Star.

 

[boomerang]

So let's start be diverting that $128M from the military to NASA. So many technological advances were made via the space program that trickled down to civilian life. That's where we'll really benefit, by progressing. Not spending money on the same old shit.

NASA is now in business to make Muslims feel better about themselves. That space stuff, it doesn't make the world love us more. It just makes us look we're trying to flaunt some kind of misguided notions of exceptionalism. Besides, smart people that work for NASA just make those not as smart feel bad about themselves. Fairness and equality must guide the nation.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/07/07/nasas_muslim_outreach_106214.html

It's not really surprising that President Obama told NASA administrator Charles Bolden that his highest priority should be "to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world and engage much more with dominantly Muslim nations to help them feel good about their historic contribution to science ... and math and engineering." It fits with so much that we already knew about the president.

 

[zinfamous]

fixed

I had originally typed, "dog"


But it's hard to say, really. The vocalizations are 100% bear.

 

[norseamd]

But it's hard to say, really. The vocalizations are 100% bear.

to be fair both dogs and bears are caniforms

 

[norseamd]

NASA is now in business to make Muslims feel better about themselves. That space stuff, it doesn't make the world love us more. It just makes us look we're trying to flaunt some kind of misguided notions of exceptionalism. Besides, smart people that work for NASA just make those not as smart feel bad about themselves. Fairness and equality must guide the nation. http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...ch_106214.html

nasa would never value islamization over crony capitalism

 

[Daverino]

To be fair, a single B-Wing starfighter is more than a match for the Enterprise. One proton torpedo or a single blast from its heavy turbolaser would likely defeat any ship in the Star Trek universe.

 

[OCGuy]

Imagine the US was ruled by the TexasHiker dynasty for the last 200+ years. The US government would still be purchasing muskets and bi-planes annually, just to keep a few people employed.

Actually not bi-planes, since that sounds icky. Right Texas?


OP, you know what that is called when the .gov gives you money, solely because they feel sorry for you? Welfare.

 

[Thebobo]

NASA is now in business to make Muslims feel better about themselves. That space stuff, it doesn't make the world love us more. It just makes us look we're trying to flaunt some kind of misguided notions of exceptionalism. Besides, smart people that work for NASA just make those not as smart feel bad about themselves. Fairness and equality must guide the nation.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2010/07/07/nasas_muslim_outreach_106214.html

..
NASA has two spacecraft beyond the solar system, one flying by Pluto very soon, one at the asteroid belt, one around Saturn, 2 on mars and 2 in orbit around mars, a space telescope, dozens of earth observation satellites, a satellite orbiting the moon, hundreds of ground based programs and many more deep space missions in the works and you get your self worked up by a 4 year old blog article alleging that Obama told NASA administrator Charles Bolden that his highest priority should be "to find a way to reach out to the Muslim world. Fist its bullshit, second who cares.

 

[ElFenix]

you can support 4 battleships for every aircraft carrier

large, expensive gunboats have been practically useless in combat since Dreadnaught first rolled out of her slip.


edit: shore bombardment is about it

 

[ElFenix]

Death Star, hands down.

come on, some yokel in a fighter with 0 visibility (can't see behind or below at all) blew the damn thing up without even using a targetting computer.

 

[norseamd]

large, expensive gunboats have been useless in combat since Dreadnaught first rolled out of her slip.

they have plenty of uses

and they are not any more vulnerable than any other ship

and nothing can touch them for shore bombardment and for cheap also

they can also carry plenty of missiles as well as support some vtol craft and also have greater electronics and command and control support than an aircraft carrier has room for

 

[Pens1566]

Does not change the fact that funding is being pulled when a replacement is not ready.

Except for the fact that you're basing all you know of this situation on reporting from hack sites. Sure, doesn't change anything at all.

 

[norseamd]

so blowing up a few planets might have some benefits like mostly fear but those planets are worth far more unscathed and productive

 

[norseamd]

what is the model of missile that they are developing for long term replacement

 

[zinfamous]

come on, some yokel in a fighter with 0 visibility (can't see behind or below at all) blew the damn thing up without even using a targetting computer.

Can you say that you are also skilled enough to bulls-eye womprats with your T-16?

 

[zinfamous]

so blowing up a few planets might have some benefits like mostly fear but those planets are worth far more unscathed and productive

that's merely meant as a direct comparison of capability. If the death star can take out Mon Calamari heavy cruiser, much less an entire planet, imagine what it would do to a piddly space cube.

 

[Pens1566]

they have plenty of uses

and they are not any more vulnerable than any other ship

and nothing can touch them for shore bombardment and for cheap also

they can also carry plenty of missiles as well as support some vtol craft and also have greater electronics and command and control support than an aircraft carrier has room for

The same discussion was had in a thread about the Zumwalt class a while back. Your side didn't win.

 

[norseamd]

that's merely meant as a direct comparison of capability. If the death star can take out Mon Calamari heavy cruiser, much less an entire planet, imagine what it would do to a piddly space cube.

a mon calamari cruiser is worth blowing up but a planet is not

 

[norseamd]

The same discussion was had in a thread about the Zumwalt class a while back. Your side didn't win.

you are bringing up a highly monetized cruiser with a small gun in comparision to a battleship with 16 to 18 inch guns?

 

[Pens1566]

you are bringing up a highly monetized cruiser with a small gun in comparision to a battleship with 16 to 18 inch guns?

Yes. When you look at the actual real world capabilities of both platforms, it's not a contest.

 

[norseamd]

Yes. When you look at the actual real world capabilities of both platforms, it's not a contest.

what do you mean?