Obama to increase defense spending beyond Reagan / Bush levels

[crownjules]

Republicans won't let Obama stimulate the economy in ANY other way

We need industry to flourish and return jobs to these shores, not booster shots that wear off as soon as the money runs out. That requires a fundamental shift in our policy of exporting jobs overseas. But that will never happen in the current environment of everything bows before the earning power of corporations and their benefactors.

 

[feralkid]

Seems a little silly to me. We're winding down in Iraq. Shouldn't spending be decreasing?

Lot of personnel and materiel have been used up/worn out?

 

[Jaskalas]

his presidency is a spectacular exercise in colossal failtastrophe. He will never get re-elected.

If the Democrats do not defeat President Obama in the primary, then there's no respect left to give.

 

[Scotteq]

Negotiation 101: If you want to end up at a hundred bucks then you ask for 130. The other guy (House and Senate, in this case) says 75.

backandforthbackandforthbackandforth.

OK - Settled for $100.

I don't see much in the way of news here.

 

[BoberFett]

Republicans won't let Obama stimulate the economy in ANY other way

Is there any failing of you lefties that you won't blame on Republicans? Pathetic.

 

[Genx87]

Republicans won't let Obama stimulate the economy in ANY other way

Dont you tire of making excuses?

 

[irishScott]

Dont you tire of making excuses?

Excuses are the lefty way. Not that the right's any better, just saying...

 

[lupi]

Haven't looked into the specifics, but I do know there has been much in the way of maintenance items that were pushed back to support battle line funding and after extending those dates several times they are all coming due. Combine this with the growing stocks of weapons and vehicles that need post theater refurb or replacement and you get an idea of why it's difficult to cult funding at this time with acknowledging you are cutting capability. And at some point you can also describe the various next gen systems that have had development postponed or temporarily cancelled and will at some point soon need to be ramped back up.

 

[ElFenix]

Much easier to cut low-level social programs and claim that he is "reaching deep", allowing him to ignore/expand areas that are causing problems.

He literally does *nothing* to *attempt* to decrease the deficit.

I mean, tell me, what the fuck does the government NEED to spend money on now that it didn't spend 10 years ago?

DMDs at all the airports, of course.

 

[werepossum]

1. State Department gives aid to foreign country.
2. Foreign country turns around and buys US military equipment.
3. ...
4. Profit.

In other words, we're giving away "free" defense stuff paid for by tax payers.

It's a whole point better than the Underpants Gnomes. We can't lose!

 

[trenchfoot]

So it is true....no matter what Obama does, the righties will find a way to find fault in it. Pavlov must be ROFL'ing in his grave over this.

Defense spending is the untouchable crown jewel of the right. If Obama went after Defense spending like you righties hoped he would, you guys would be all over him like flies on a fresh steaming pile of humpety dump.

And if it were a repub Pres. doing it now you guys would be heaping praise on him for stimulating the economy and protecting the nation from harm.

You guys.......c'mon already

 

[Karl Agathon]

The F22 should have never been cut. Escpecially because of our eventual future conflict with the red dragon.

 

[werepossum]

Is there any failing of you lefties that you won't blame on Republicans? Pathetic.

Well - he does have a point. Obama wants to spend money. Whether one believes this is because this is because he honestly thinks this is the best way to aid the recovery, or because he wants to drive up the debt and crash the country to usher in the glorious new Marxist people's paradise, we can all agree that Obama wants to spend money. Given that, defense is one of the politically safest ways for him to do so. The Republicans (and I am one, if a reluctant one) can attack him for being fiscally irresponsible for doing so, but not without giving up a bit of the patriotic, soldier supporting, pro-defense stance that nationalists like me love.

The F22 should have never been cut. Escpecially because of our eventual future conflict with the red dragon.

Agreed - although this may not be the economy to restore it. I'd rather extend production than ramp it back up, since there's no immediate threat requiring it and that way our later planes will be newer and have more modern refinements when built. Well, they won't technically be newer when built. :\

 

[werepossum]

Haven't looked into the specifics, but I do know there has been much in the way of maintenance items that were pushed back to support battle line funding and after extending those dates several times they are all coming due. Combine this with the growing stocks of weapons and vehicles that need post theater refurb or replacement and you get an idea of why it's difficult to cult funding at this time with acknowledging you are cutting capability. And at some point you can also describe the various next gen systems that have had development postponed or temporarily cancelled and will at some point soon need to be ramped back up.

Good points. That's a good reason why a war should always be declared with the words "We declare war on . . ." with no wiggle room, and should be accompanied by a special temporary tax to fund it rather than funding it (at least partially) by cutting needed weapons and support systems and scrimping on spares and maintenance. If a war is necessary to protect American interests, and if Americans are not willing to accept a bite out of our own lifestyles to fund those going into harm's way then we don't deserve to have our interests protected.

 

[Craig234]

At the same time, can we take the "made in America" sticker off the tear gas canisters we sell? Just stamp the fucker with made in China and no one would even question it.

So, between 'stop keeping a dictator in power with military aid including tear gas' and 'do do that but lie', you pick the latter. Power tends to corrupt, absolute... etc.

 

[Mike Gayner]

Good thing we have a Nobel peace prize winner looking after things over there

 

[Throckmorton]

Dont you tire of making excuses?

I count 3 people in this thread who don't understand irony.

 

[dmcowen674]

Obama to increase defense spending beyond Reagan / Bush levels

This should be Republicans wet dream.

I'm sure this would not be an issue of Palin was President.

 

[dmcowen674]

Is there any failing of you lefties that you won't blame on Republicans? Pathetic.

Show me what is not the Republicans fault.

 

[dmcowen674]

his presidency is a spectacular exercise in colossal failtastrophe. He will never get re-elected.

and your hero Bush was the greatest?

 

[dmcowen674]

So his budget included cuts for people here at home, now he's increasing the budget for DoD.

It's as if Bush and Cheney never left office.

We could close down the four bases Bush set up and leave the oil to China and Russia, is that what you want?

Didn't think so.

 

[Nebor]

and your hero Bush was the greatest?

HEY, Bush got elected TWICE.

Well, at least once. He was definitely reelected.

 

[Nebor]

We could close down the four bases Bush set up and leave the oil to China and Russia, is that what you want?

Didn't think so.

Which four bases are you talking about?

 

[dmcowen674]

Which four bases are you talking about?

The permanent bases built to protect the oil.

 

[Nebor]

The permanent bases built to protect the oil.

What are their names and locations? I have no idea what you're talking about.