Obama: Time Man of the Year 2008

[Rainsford]

Originally posted by: miketheidiot

Originally posted by: Dari
Time lost credibility when they gave it to Giuliani in 2001 instead of bin Laden. He may have been a monster, but Osama deserved it that year. Fuck hurting America's feelings.

this.

Time magazine is a business, and people are kind of stupid sometimes. That's the biggest problem with the press as a whole, they're run by the suits.

 

[Farang]

TallBill has a point in that previous elections have been crazier. But because of how the election system is run now, floor fights are extremely unlikely, wife-bashing or other early 19th century tactics are much tamer, and candidates are more polished than they were before. But, for how boring the elections are structured to be these days, 2008 was definitely an amazing election for a number of reasons, not the least of which was the candidate's ability to draw hundreds of thousands of spectators overseas.

 

[nutxo]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: nutxo

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: nutxo
Doesn't say much for the year , does it?

Says a lot about it. He, being a major American Historical precedent, was a shoo-in. Anyone who can't see the importance of this has their head way too far up their Partisan Ass to really matter.

Care to explain that statement.

As for the little snipe , meh. I wish the best for my country no matter whos on office.

What's to explain?

Well. Aside from race I dont see anything different than politics as usual. I mean the guys liek 7% black. BFD.

The way the economy is the dems could have run Fozzy bear and won.

Whether you think he was just blowing smoke up our collective ass or not, Obama ran a campaign based almost entirely on the idea that there is a lot of hope for the future, and that tomorrow can and should be better than today. That's a fairly unusual message right there compared to the doom and gloom and nasty smears that describe the majority of modern political campaigns (including the campaign of Obama's opponent). THAT, at the very least, made his run something other than politics as usual.

Wow. I think you could have been talking about Dubyas first campaign, maybe Clinton or Reagan.... Its all old. Its all the same. Obama is nothing but a politician. You think the promise of "change" or " hope" is new? Its a buzzword used to motivate the masses.

They are all crooks and liars. Im hoping he proves me wrong but Im pretty sure he'll make the voters who believed look like clowns.

8 years is a long time in politics, I think that in the minds of most people, Obama's campaign stood in contrast to the 2004 election, which was quite possibly the WORST choice we were offered in recent history. McCain continued that "proud" tradition with his campaign this time around, but Obama did something different. I'm not claiming he's genuine (although I think he is), or that this approach is unique...but it certainly wasn't shared by the last 4 guys running for the office of the President.

And it might be slightly off topic, but I've always found the "they are all crooks and liars" to be incredibly pretentious and hypocritical. First of all, it's usually an attitude adopted whenever a guy you don't like is the politician in question, and it's quickly abandoned when some random gomer you DO like is in office. And secondly, it's stupidity masquerading as intelligent commentary. It doesn't take any brains at all to be an unwavering pessimist, it's just as dumb as the guy who uncritically accepts everything every politician says. The smart folks in the room are the ones who try to tell the good from the bad, your attitude is just lazy.

Im certainly not trying to be pretentious. I'm not a crook and rarely stretch the truth so I don't see where hypocritical fits in

I've just seen to much of these people. Every challenger throws change into the face of the reigning administration. Like I said. Im hoping to be mistaken and geniunely want Obama to succeed.