Obama says Iran is breaking the rules

[JSt0rm]

Persian women are hot. We should not drop bombs on them.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Persian women are hot. We should not drop bombs on them.

I always find this amusing... show me a pic of a Persian woman you think is hot.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: extra
I'm with Bamacre on this one. Iran is not a threat to the United States. The only reason they might be is if we meddle endlessly in their affairs. Shut up about them and leave them alone and just influence them through flooding them with culture and goods through trade in my opinion...and we'd be much better off.

Now there is an actual plan. Not sure how effective it can be, though we certainly have China as an example. The only problem being religious extremism.

Is this what we should do, tear down walls and bridge an economy, make it so that injury to us would hurt themselves? Of course they would have to open up to us and they might decide not to do that.

If they are not open, this could never work. Do we give it a try? Decades will pass before we know whether we?ve failed or not. They?ll be a nuclear power this decade, there?s no time to waste.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Persian women are hot. We should not drop bombs on them.

I always find this amusing... show me a pic of a Persian woman you think is hot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Hl6wx2F9c

Dont want this to become a babe thread but there you go.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Persian women are hot. We should not drop bombs on them.

I always find this amusing... show me a pic of a Persian woman you think is hot.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-Hl6wx2F9c

Dont want this to become a babe thread but there you go.

Thank you, but i have yet to see a true Persian in any of those pictures and videos anyone have provided me.

That includes this one.

 

[JSt0rm]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Thank you, but i have yet to see a true Persian in any of those pictures and videos anyone have provided me.

That includes this one.

You have never seen a Persian women? Why would you think non of these women (including the one at the end holding a iranian flag) are Persian?

I live in Beverly Hills tons of Persian women around here.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: extra
I'm with Bamacre on this one. Iran is not a threat to the United States. The only reason they might be is if we meddle endlessly in their affairs. Shut up about them and leave them alone and just influence them through flooding them with culture and goods through trade in my opinion...and we'd be much better off.

Now there is an actual plan. Not sure how effective it can be, though we certainly have China as an example. The only problem being religious extremism.

Is this what we should do, tear down walls and bridge an economy, make it so that injury to us would hurt themselves? Of course they would have to open up to us and they might decide not to do that.

If they are not open, this could never work. Do we give it a try? Decades will pass before we know whether we?ve failed or not. They?ll be a nuclear power this decade, there?s no time to waste.

It's kinda laughable that you actually believe that we don't know everything they are doing and that we don't already have a plan if they would pass a certain point.

Personally, i understand why NK wants a nuke, the US forced them to get one, they are next on the list and they bloody well know it.

So piss on your own shoes and complain that they get pissed on all you like, this time, you're on your own.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Thank you, but i have yet to see a true Persian in any of those pictures and videos anyone have provided me.

That includes this one.

You have never seen a Persian women? Why would you think non of these women (including the one at the end holding a iranian flag) are Persian?

I live in Beverly Hills tons of Persian women around here.

Oh i have seen plenty of true persian women, in Africa.

 

[JSt0rm]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_people

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persian_people

History, son... Learn it, love it.

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Iran is a threat to it's own population most of all and their leadership is fucked up, not that i blame them, the US did say that they are part of the axis of evil even after they offered to help with Iraq and they pretty much know that unless they get a nuke, they are history as the US doesn't give a flying fuck about evidence of wrongdoings or WMD's, nukes or terrorist ties, they make that shit up as they go along with the help of the UK that ordered the MI6 to make up evidence just as the US ordered CIA to enhance evidence.

I'm surprised to find we are in agreeance here.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: kylebisme

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
Iran is a threat to it's own population most of all and their leadership is fucked up, not that i blame them, the US did say that they are part of the axis of evil even after they offered to help with Iraq and they pretty much know that unless they get a nuke, they are history as the US doesn't give a flying fuck about evidence of wrongdoings or WMD's, nukes or terrorist ties, they make that shit up as they go along with the help of the UK that ordered the MI6 to make up evidence just as the US ordered CIA to enhance evidence.

I'm surprised to find we are in arrogance here.

I have no fucking clue what you are trying to say... "we are in arrogance here"?

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
It's about fear, well, hang on while you are shaking in your boots, Iran hasn't done sheit yet, you can sit down and watch your soaps for a few months yet until this gets serious enouch for you to crap your pants and hide under your beds.

Pathetic.

Going down this road of protecting nuclear proliferation results in every nation having it one day.

So what countries do you not want to have nuclear weapons? Any? After the Taliban retake Afghanistan are you going to rant and rave against us in support of their nuclear program? After all we'd just be pissing ourselves to think cross of it, right?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
It's about fear, well, hang on while you are shaking in your boots, Iran hasn't done sheit yet, you can sit down and watch your soaps for a few months yet until this gets serious enouch for you to crap your pants and hide under your beds.

Pathetic.

Going down this road of protecting nuclear proliferation results in every nation having it one day.

So what countries do you not want to have nuclear weapons? Any? After the Taliban retake Afghanistan are you going to rant and rave against us in support of their nuclear program? After all we'd just be pissing ourselves to think cross of it, right?

Scare tactics happen when a politician of rank loses popular support.

And you sods fall for it EVERY time.

I'm sorry, but nothing has changed regarding Iran for the last ten years and nothing will change in another ten.

I really couldn't care less about this sheit, there are at least three groups running rampant that may do more harm than a nuke going off in NYC or London right now and we really don't give a shit about fighting them, we have troops there who are jerking off and drinking beer but they are not actually actively trying to do anything at ALL.

Nor could they at this point, not without civilian casualties that would be unaccetable to the general population of the nations that participate.

You want something to worry about, worry about terrorists taking over Afghanistan and Iraq.. oh sheit, they already have, they operate in the open now. Worry about nukes that are already prepared and useful TODAY falling in the hands of people who want to hurt us.

I get it though, Iraq and Afghanistan are old time lost wars, popularity is going to sheit, bomb Iran.

 

[Lemon law]

I somewhat quit reading the JOS revisionist history when he said, "Scare tactics happen when a politician of rank loses popular support." When guess what, ole JOS was dancing in the streets when his own PM and GWB poodle, Tony Blair got the ole heave ho. And now presumes to be able to cherry pick his own commanding general in Wesley Clark.

Well you are zero out of two here oh Youthful and proud Chevalier, and that is not even the quarter of it. We in the USA lost our commander and thief in GWB, and it don't bother me a bit to lose dumb and dumber in Cheney.

The smart adapt to change and steer it in a more desirable direction, the dumb fight ineffectually against change and lose. And then you blame Iran for your own stupidity when Iran has almost nothing to do with it.

 

[Lemon law]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Persian women are hot. We should not drop bombs on them.

I always find this amusing... show me a pic of a Persian woman you think is hot.

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Lets us have no sexist double standards here, show us a picture of JOS and let the beutiful babes of the world decide if he is hot or not! And if JOS get the thumbs down in the hot verdict of the plebiscite, shall we then decide there is no rational or redeeming reason not to bomb the UK?

 

[kylebisme]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I have no fucking clue what you are trying to say... "we are in arrogance here"?

I meant "agreeance", being dyslexic spellchecking sometimes leaves me with such odd errors.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Lemon law

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: JSt0rm01
Persian women are hot. We should not drop bombs on them.

I always find this amusing... show me a pic of a Persian woman you think is hot.

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Lets us have no sexist double standards here, show us a picture of JOS and let the beutiful babes of the world decide if he is hot or not! And if JOS get the thumbs down in the hot verdict of the plebiscite, shall we then decide there is no rational or redeeming reason not to bomb the UK?

I am not surprised that that one went over your head. Not in the least.

Everything anyone on this forum has ever typed has gone whooooooosh, way over your head.

I never even mentioned bombing Iran, i'm completely against Obamas plan to use even sanctions as an act of war against them.

Of course, reading isn't something you do, understanding isn't something you do and reason isn't something you get so why the fuck bother responding to your dumb fucking arse?

I dunno, i'll stop now.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Lemon law
I somewhat quit reading the JOS revisionist history when he said, "Scare tactics happen when a politician of rank loses popular support." When guess what, ole JOS was dancing in the streets when his own PM and GWB poodle, Tony Blair got the ole heave ho. And now presumes to be able to cherry pick his own commanding general in Wesley Clark.

Well you are zero out of two here oh Youthful and proud Chevalier, and that is not even the quarter of it. We in the USA lost our commander and thief in GWB, and it don't bother me a bit to lose dumb and dumber in Cheney.

The smart adapt to change and steer it in a more desirable direction, the dumb fight ineffectually against change and lose. And then you blame Iran for your own stupidity when Iran has almost nothing to do with it.

I was ordered to base, not dancing on the streets, i was not happy when our team along with a lot of other people had to go to a useless war zone leaving the Taliban to roam and take over all of Afghanistan. You are a pathetic little twat and you know damn well that you are just that.

I don't cherry pick anyone, i have no American commanding officer, never had, never will have. I have explained this to you on no less than EIGHT occasions and yet you are too simple minded to get that.

That i regard Wesley Clark as a good man has to do with his conduct of command in another theatre.

I don't expect you to know the hair on your balls from politics you spew bullsheit about but i do expect you to be able to remember the simple things.

If you can't do that, don't adress me personally, ok?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
It's about fear, well, hang on while you are shaking in your boots, Iran hasn't done sheit yet, you can sit down and watch your soaps for a few months yet until this gets serious enouch for you to crap your pants and hide under your beds.

Pathetic.

Going down this road of protecting nuclear proliferation results in every nation having it one day.

So what countries do you not want to have nuclear weapons? Any? After the Taliban retake Afghanistan are you going to rant and rave against us in support of their nuclear program? After all we'd just be pissing ourselves to think cross of it, right?

After what? The Taliban retook Afghanistan in two months after we let them go do just that because we had to fight a war against absolutely nothing in Iraq.

Afghanistan is a lost war, Iraq is a lost war, the longer you stay the more money you'll spend but nothing is ever going to get better now.

I am not going to do sheit anymore, when i go home from where i am (which is in the US atm) i won't return to a war zone.

You deal with your sheit, i'll deal with mine, my life doesn't involve fear of invisible boogeymen who might or might not exist (i know, you don't).

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I get it though, Iraq and Afghanistan are old time lost wars, popularity is going to sheit, bomb Iran.

You completely ran scared from the question and deflected to attacking us, where do you draw the line? Are you willing to stop any nation from developing nukes?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
I get it though, Iraq and Afghanistan are old time lost wars, popularity is going to sheit, bomb Iran.

You completely ran scared from the question and deflected to attacking us, where do you draw the line? Are you willing to stop any nation from developing nukes?

Yeah, i'm scared... *sigh*

Did you not understand what i said? Interpret that right the fuck NOW. Could it mean that "omg they might have nukes and we must attack" or could it mean "i really don't give a fuck at this point in time, we have bigger problems to work with than another war that we can't handle"?

I did not know that i had to spell it out for you, but no, not by warfare simply because we could do one of two things, bomb the living dayligths out of their facilities which would be an act of war and give other nations good reasons to support them which would result in a pretty nasty war in the long run.

I assume you realise that the allied forces are so spent that invading Iceland at this point in time would be a futile mission?

If truly needed, action will be taken, all these scare tactics and fear mongering bullsheit because Obama needs more support is just bullsheit though. COME ON, you've seen it a LOT of times before, every single fucking time a president get's low numbers they play these fear tactics and eventually, if need be they go to war, happened with GHB, with Clinton, with GWB and now it's starting right up agaiin.

It should at least make people go "hmmmmm, i've seen this before" but it doesn't, it makes them go YEEEHAW President Obama is the coooooolest ever.

 

[Lemon law]

No JOS, you just do not get it, you never got it, and you still do not get it. Nato is not losing in Afghanistan and Iraq because of any lack of ability to bomb the shit out of anything, they are losing because they use the wrong tactics and fail to make life better for the average person on the street. And then bombing the very man on the street makes it even worse.

Please take your ball and go home mad, maybe the smarter people left in Nato will not have you to make their problems even more difficult in terms of winning hearts and minds.

 

[kylebisme]

They aren't supposed to win, just keep fighting. War profiteering is only possible as long as the wars continue. Had the intent been to win, we would have put together a large enough force to insure we did so.

 

[gingermeggs]

Originally posted by: bamacre
Enforcing economic sanctions is an act of war. The sanctions placed upon Iraq helped cause the death of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi people, and was one of the main reasons given by OBL for the 9/11 attacks.

Iran is not a threat to the USA, nor was Iraq. It's a damn shame the left is as pro-war as the previous nutjobs we had in office.

You got to understand the resource control at stake there, this is not a national issue, it's international corporate agendas, control the food, the fuel and the "facts".
If Iran gets nukes it will constrict the ability of multi nationals to control supply and demand.
It is that simple and no action is to great for those ends to be maintained.
It's not simply "nutjobs", its pure capitalism in its essence, control over the masses for the enrichment of the few- bourgeois/aristocrats, they have no real political alignment or ideology or morality, its not that deep for them. You speak about "the left", but really you talk about a chameleon capitalism, where you make a easy life at the expense of the truly productive members of your culture/society and to the greater detriment of your/our entire world.
There is no colour to natural justice, just denial, ego and all the other negative emotions which limit humans ability to feel whole and contented. I wish you peace of your own mind in your life you sound like a good person.