Obama Parting Shot: No Nuclear EMP Protection

[MongGrel]

It's not important though, well not enough to do something about. How about a tin foil hat?

Of course not.

 

[madoka]

Get a large enough solar flare and Western civilization is utterly fucked. They generally happen once a century and the last one occurred over a century ago so the risk is real and gains in probability as each year passes.

Well it seems the liberal idiot squad on here know more about EMP threats than the Congressional EMP Commission who is warning us that we're about to get screwed, so we have nothing to worry about.

 

[John Connor]

Well it seems the liberal idiot squad on here

Just scrolling through the threads. Fuck me running! Talk about a bunch of god damn snowflakes.

 

[madoka]

The OP is cowering in fear as we speak about this thanks to the muslim traitor in chief.

You ever wonder why you're such a loser in real life?

 

[MongGrel]

You ever wonder why you're such a loser in real life?

Seriouly ?

It sounds a though you know very little on the subject, personally I've worked on satellite components in the past so know a little about radiation shielding

 

[bshole]

Well it seems the liberal idiot squad on here know more about EMP threats than the Congressional EMP Commission who is warning us that we're about to get screwed, so we have nothing to worry about.

I am very concerned with the natural solar flare risk. The article you posted indicates that Obama's changes won't affect that.

If we actually get hit with nukes, humanity is most likely done. I just hope in that instance, one of the nukes detonates over Milwaukee. I certainly would not want to survive such an event. Hey we live in a nuclear wasteland.... but our power grid still kind of works.....

I believe you are blowing this out of proportion.

 

[brycejones]

You ever wonder why you're such a loser in real life?

So much projection. Keep on keeping on!

 

[theeedude]

Tinfoil hat?

 

[JSt0rm]

escalating a nuclear arms race is not money well spent. Im sure the conservatives will be all about it.

 

[JSt0rm]

You ever wonder why you're such a loser in real life?

You arent? Please give us a run down of your accomplishments.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Seriouly ?

It sounds a though you know very little on the subject, personally I've worked on satellite components in the past so know a little about radiation shielding

It would be nice of once in awhile someone would look at the article and think beyond politics and at the natural implications of possible, indeed certain, events and about mitigating their effects.

Needs to be dealt with, nevermind bombs, and I know you know that. People. OY!

 

[bshole]

It would be nice of once in awhile someone would look at the article and think beyond politics and at the natural implications of possible, indeed certain, events and about mitigating their effects.

Needs to be dealt with, nevermind bombs, and I know you know that. People. OY!

Yes but the article specifically said that the solar flare protections would not be impacted by the change, only the nuclear attack protections. Would you agree that the solar flare protection is vastly more important than the nuclear attack protection?

 

[who?]

The TV show "Dark Angel" was set in post EMP times although some things still worked.

 

[UNCjigga]

Someone please provide a clear, rational, scientific explanation for why EMP risk (both naturally occurring and man-made) poses a greater economic and security risk to the US at this moment vs. Climate change and global warming. Since I am lay public and no expert on this matter (and I doubt most Presidents are experts) I would be reliant on actual quantifiable risk data to make an informed decision before I comment on the Internets. Thank you in advance.

 

[Humpy]

Someone please provide a clear, rational, scientific explanation for why EMP risk (both naturally occurring and man-made) poses a greater economic and security risk to the US at this moment vs. Climate change and global warming. Since I am lay public and no expert on this matter (and I doubt most Presidents are experts) I would be reliant on actual quantifiable risk data to make an informed decision before I comment on the Internets. Thank you in advance.

See:

Report of the Commission to Assess the
Threat to the United States from
Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP) Attack
Critical National Infrastructures

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Yes but the article specifically said that the solar flare protections would not be impacted by the change, only the nuclear attack protections. Would you agree that the solar flare protection is vastly more important than the nuclear attack protection?

Oh absolutely, but we need to act and really have not. I'm not suggesting we approach from the perspective that nukes are the important thing, but take action which makes sense and so far neither side has bothered much but argue and ignore.

Seems damned foolish.

 

[local]

Someone please provide a clear, rational, scientific explanation for why EMP risk (both naturally occurring and man-made) poses a greater economic and security risk to the US at this moment vs. Climate change and global warming. Since I am lay public and no expert on this matter (and I doubt most Presidents are experts) I would be reliant on actual quantifiable risk data to make an informed decision before I comment on the Internets. Thank you in advance.

Man made I'm not too worried about but the CME from the sun feels a bit like playing Russian roulette.

http://www.space.com/26669-huge-solar-storm-2012-destruction.html

12% chance over a 10 year period. That is pretty significant and is something we should be very concerned about. Climate change/global warming is a much slower change to which we can adapt. This would take us back to the 1850's in a matter of minutes and it could take years just to get the power back on.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Someone please provide a clear, rational, scientific explanation for why EMP risk (both naturally occurring and man-made) poses a greater economic and security risk to the US at this moment vs. Climate change and global warming. Since I am lay public and no expert on this matter (and I doubt most Presidents are experts) I would be reliant on actual quantifiable risk data to make an informed decision before I comment on the Internets. Thank you in advance.

To be very brief we live in a world that is so overpopulated and complex that we need electronics. Computers, communications, in short everything to do with logistics and most of production. With a sufficiently strong EMP we are knocked backed a hundred years with no recourse and that means famine, disease and death on a scale never seen. The time to recover is estimated at up to 10 years and as many trillion dollars. No time to prepare, no mitigation.

 

[agent00f]

What matters is what is done and left undone. Considering the very real threats it should have been a high priority. It wasn't. If the incoming President doesn't do anything he'll be just as much at fault and neither names or respective party has any mitigation of foolishness.

Best to pick between this ^ and pretending to be not conservative so people can't trivially make posts like this one to mock your sort.

 

[hal2kilo]

This sounds like the arsenic standard where mandating we protect against some given risk level provides a diminishing return. Sometimes you just accept a given level of risk because the cost to mitigate doesn't make business sense.

I'm really pissed that Obama did not use an executive order to build a faraday cage around the earth.

 

[OutHouse]

So the Obama admin sends 100+ tons of raw uranium to Iran and you boot licking democrats make jokes? wtf is wrong with you?

 

[agent00f]

To be very brief we live in a world that is so overpopulated and complex that we need electronics. Computers, communications, in short everything to do with logistics and most of production. With a sufficiently strong EMP we are knocked backed a hundred years with no recourse and that means famine, disease and death on a scale never seen. The time to recover is estimated at up to 10 years and as many trillion dollars. No time to prepare, no mitigation.

The country needs faith in the conservative brain trust here, they are at least as good at the cyber as Trump's 10yr old son.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Best to pick between this ^ and pretending to be not conservative so people can't trivially make posts like this one to mock your sort.

You may have noticed that not one person really cares. Now have you any insight on the matter being discussed or do I awe you so much that you cannot. In that case, I guess I should be honored that I matter at all to you, but I'm not feeling much either way on the matter.

 

[JSt0rm]

So the Obama admin sends 100+ tons of raw uranium to Iran and you boot licking democrats make jokes? wtf is wrong with you?

Source?

 

[agent00f]

You may have noticed that not one person really cares. Now have you any insight on the matter being discussed or do I awe you so much that you cannot. In that case, I guess I should be honored that I matter at all to you, but I'm not feeling much either way on the matter.

Don't worry, you're not really special among the crowd of right wing dummies here who pretend to be anything but.

The only insight here is this topic is basically conservative concern trolling, you know tech dinosaurs pretending to be anything but.