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Originally posted by: GoPackGo
I don't think he has a chance right now.

He just won his senate seat in 2004....dude needs some XP.
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If he can overcome his inexperience (which is doubtful IMHO), and not faltar in any way on the long & upcoming campaign trail (also doubtful, new candidates seem prone to such) he will have to endure "shots" from his fellow Dem oponents. All in all a tough slog.

He's young (& inexperienced) and the surest way to rid oneself of the "inexperience" label is to run in these Pres campaigns, particulary so if he can the VP slot.

Note that Edwards wore the "inexperience" label previously and has not really done much, if anything, in the meantime. Yet no one speaks of his inexperience.

I tend to think Obama , if not aiming for the VP role will be happy to take it if he's remotely comfortable with the winner of the Dem primary. Once again, I believe the Dems best ticket (in terms of winning) is Edwards/Obama.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
I don't think he has a chance right now.

He just won his senate seat in 2004....dude needs some XP.
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If he can overcome his inexperience (which is doubtful IMHO), and not faltar in any way on the long & upcoming campaign trail (also doubtful, new candidates seem prone to such) he will have to endure "shots" from his fellow Dem oponents. All in all a tough slog.

He's young (& inexperienced) and the surest way to rid oneself of the "inexperience" label is to run in these Pres campaigns, particulary so if he can the VP slot.

Note that Edwards wore the "inexperience" label previously and has not really done much, if anything, in the meantime. Yet no one speaks of his inexperience.

I tend to think Obama , if not aiming for the VP role will be happy to take it if he's remotely comfortable with the winner of the Dem primary.

Once again, I believe the Dems best ticket (in terms of winning) is Edwards/Obama.

Fern
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Edwards is part of the problem though, that is like putting the Fox in the Henhouse.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Universal healthcare by 2012 :thumbsdown:.
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Awwwwwwww how much extreme profit will you have to give up?

36 ft Yacht instead of an 80 footer?
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Says one of the few yacht owners in this forum. 😕

Dave, you're the evil rich. When can I expect the money you owe me?
 
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Universal healthcare by 2012 :thumbsdown:.
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Awwwwwwww how much extreme profit will you have to give up?

36 ft Yacht instead of an 80 footer?
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Says one of the few yacht owners in this forum. 😕

Dave, you're the evil rich.

When can I expect the money you owe me?
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That's something new. Explain
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: BoberFett
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Universal healthcare by 2012 :thumbsdown:.
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Awwwwwwww how much extreme profit will you have to give up?

36 ft Yacht instead of an 80 footer?
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Says one of the few yacht owners in this forum. 😕

Dave, you're the evil rich.

When can I expect the money you owe me?
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That's something new. Explain
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You seem to feel the rich owe everyone else a living. You're rich, you own a yacht. I don't. So where's mine?

I take cash or money order. Sorry, no personal checks.
 
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
I don't think he has a chance right now.

He just won his senate seat in 2004....dude needs some XP.
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I honestly don't know how you get experience at running one of the most prominent countries in the world.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
I don't think he has a chance right now.

He just won his senate seat in 2004....dude needs some XP.
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If he can overcome his inexperience (which is doubtful IMHO), and not faltar in any way on the long & upcoming campaign trail (also doubtful, new candidates seem prone to such) he will have to endure "shots" from his fellow Dem oponents. All in all a tough slog.

He's young (& inexperienced) and the surest way to rid oneself of the "inexperience" label is to run in these Pres campaigns, particulary so if he can the VP slot.

Note that Edwards wore the "inexperience" label previously and has not really done much, if anything, in the meantime. Yet no one speaks of his inexperience.

I tend to think Obama , if not aiming for the VP role will be happy to take it if he's remotely comfortable with the winner of the Dem primary.

Once again, I believe the Dems best ticket (in terms of winning) is Edwards/Obama.

Fern
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Edwards is part of the problem though, that is like putting the Fox in the Henhouse.
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Yes, Dave I agree.

Personally, the guy actually scares me. I saw some video during the early part of his Senatorial campaign here in NC. It dissapeared quickly never to return. It actualy made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. In it, he was first shown in the courtroom, you saw the sweet calm and sincere attorney with the boyish good looks & charm. Then you saw him go into (private) chambers with his client, it was the most startling transformation I have ever seen. His face changed (almost unrecognizable is it's "meanness") to a frightening demeanor, he was angry with his client and berated him as if he were totally stupid and told him exactly the lie" he wanted him to tell and how to tell it. He was as violent as you can get without striking someone.

The blonde scizo (sp?) on "Heroes" come to mind now.

But even then, just as now I fear he's exactly the type of person who seems to win elections. I remember all the acolades he received immediately from his fellow Senators. I don't favor him as a candidate, I just fear he'll win.

Fern
 
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
I don't think he has a chance right now.

He just won his senate seat in 2004....dude needs some XP.
Click to expand...

If he can overcome his inexperience (which is doubtful IMHO), and not faltar in any way on the long & upcoming campaign trail (also doubtful, new candidates seem prone to such) he will have to endure "shots" from his fellow Dem oponents. All in all a tough slog.

He's young (& inexperienced) and the surest way to rid oneself of the "inexperience" label is to run in these Pres campaigns, particulary so if he can the VP slot.

Note that Edwards wore the "inexperience" label previously and has not really done much, if anything, in the meantime. Yet no one speaks of his inexperience.

I tend to think Obama , if not aiming for the VP role will be happy to take it if he's remotely comfortable with the winner of the Dem primary.

Once again, I believe the Dems best ticket (in terms of winning) is Edwards/Obama.

Fern
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Edwards is part of the problem though, that is like putting the Fox in the Henhouse.
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Yes, Dave I agree.

Personally, the guy actually scares me. I saw some video during the early part of his Senatorial campaign here in NC. It dissapeared quickly never to return. It actualy made the hair on the back of my neck stand up. In it, he was first shown in the courtroom, you saw the sweet calm and sincere attorney with the boyish good looks & charm. Then you saw him go into (private) chambers with his client, it was the most startling transformation I have ever seen. His face changed (almost unrecognizable is it's "meanness") to a frightening demeanor, he was angry with his client and berated him as if he were totally stupid and told him exactly the lie" he wanted him to tell and how to tell it. He was as violent as you can get without striking someone.

The blonde scizo (sp?) on "Heroes" come to mind now.

But even then, just as now I fear he's exactly the type of person who seems to win elections. I remember all the acolades he received immediately from his fellow Senators.

I don't favor him as a candidate, I just fear he'll win.
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Elect me and that won't be a problem.
 
It's my understanding Gore is now considering- Gore/Obama would be an outstanding ticket IMHO.

In terms of experience- Pres Bush didn't have a lot of experience either from what I remember. Personally I would rather have someone who has not had 20-30 years of favors and political ties that he/she feels the need to support and/or "payback." Obama is smart and can surround himself with people to get the job done. I just want to see anyone other than Hillary get the nomination.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: daveymark
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Universal healthcare by 2012 :thumbsdown:.
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Awwwwwwww how much extreme profit will you have to give up?

36 ft Yacht instead of an 80 footer?
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Nope; I don't have many material possessions or fancy toys. However, I don't want to be taxed more to pay for your health care.
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Well I have great news for you. You're still free to leave the country if you don't like it.
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If you followed your own advice, you've had 6 years now to leave the country. you don't like the current administration, why aren't you gone yet?
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Because unlike you and your fellow Republicans that enjoy destroying America, I think it is worth saving.
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There are always things that can be improved upon, so your suggestion that someone leave the country is worthless. Just becuase someone doesn't want to be taxed more doesn't mean they should leave the country.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Fern
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
I don't think he has a chance right now.

He just won his senate seat in 2004....dude needs some XP.
Click to expand...

If he can overcome his inexperience (which is doubtful IMHO), and not faltar in any way on the long & upcoming campaign trail (also doubtful, new candidates seem prone to such) he will have to endure "shots" from his fellow Dem oponents. All in all a tough slog.

He's young (& inexperienced) and the surest way to rid oneself of the "inexperience" label is to run in these Pres campaigns, particulary so if he can the VP slot.

Note that Edwards wore the "inexperience" label previously and has not really done much, if anything, in the meantime. Yet no one speaks of his inexperience.

I tend to think Obama , if not aiming for the VP role will be happy to take it if he's remotely comfortable with the winner of the Dem primary.

Once again, I believe the Dems best ticket (in terms of winning) is Edwards/Obama.

Fern
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Edwards is part of the problem though, that is like putting the Fox in the Henhouse.
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right....
what president wasn't a fox in the henhouse?
one of them was filthy rich from what i remember, which is why he could stand up to special interests.
 
I want to hear the opinions of people who supported Bush. They would be the first to tell me if Obama is a good idea. If they hate the idea of Obama he has got to be a good idea. Their instincts and judgment are perfect when reversed.
 
Originally posted by: Moonbeam
I want to hear the opinions of people who supported Bush. They would be the first to tell me if Obama is a good idea. If they hate the idea of Obama he has got to be a good idea. Their instincts and judgment are perfect when reversed.
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Sorry, I can't help you there. But I hear dmcowen is a big fan of Bush, he voted for him.
 
Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: Sinsear
Universal healthcare by 2012 :thumbsdown:.
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Awwwwwwww how much extreme profit will you have to give up?

36 ft Yacht instead of an 80 footer?
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Dave--I think you're missing part of the point. As I understand it, Americans are already spending a huge amount on health care, more than people do in other countries per capita and receiving less health care. This means that, in theory, it might be possible to decrease the total cost of health care while increasing the amount of health care. (Perhaps by cutting out all of the executives and administrators and paper pushers in the private system, we might discover better efficiency and a cost savings.) Consequently, the rich guy could keep his 80 foot yacht.
 
Originally posted by: Sinsear

Nope; I don't have many material possessions or fancy toys. However, I don't want to be taxed more to pay for your health care.
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I feel the same way, but I hate to break this to you. You are already paying for other people's health care. That's right. A portion of your tax money will go to provide medicare and medicaid for the poor. Also, a good chunk of your insurance premiums and out-of-pocket health care costs will go to pay for the uninsured (and also to pay for the poor and elderly covered by Medicaid and Medicare in cases where Medicaid and Medicare don't pay hospitals enough).

We do not have free market medicine in this country--it's already socialist. Hospital emergency rooms cannot deny treatment to people (which is why so many go to the emergency rooms) and we're already providing health care for tens of millions through Medicare and Medicaid.

The question at this point is not whether or not you're going to pay for other people's health care, but how you will pay for it, what you will receive, and how much you will pay.

One way to start would be to kick out all of the illegal aliens, removing them as a health care expense.
 
Originally posted by: InlineFive
I agree, he has no where near the experience to manage this country right now. He has potential but right now he should put his oratorial skills behind Hillary Clinton. She'll need all the help she can get.
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How much experience does he need and why is experience so important in the first place? The President doesn't actually manage the day-to-day operations of the government; he provides the ideological leadership. When you vote for a presidential candidate, you're voting for a certain ideology and government agenda, not experience.
 
Well, I think that by not being in the mix of things in DC, he can be decisive and leave special interests out to hang. Perhaps then we can finally see real, effective change in our government.

Im all in! Obama '08!!!!
 
yeah, please remember that teacher and labor unions are still special interest groups too. we'll see how obama leaves them out to hang as well... good speech though. he's no lincoln, however.
 
Originally posted by: johnnobts
yeah, please remember that teacher and labor unions are still special interest groups too. we'll see how obama leaves them out to hang as well... good speech though. he's no lincoln, however.
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You, of course, assume you have the capacity to spot a modern Lincoln in spite of previous judgments about Bush. Hehe, you should not in good modesty hold too highly to your opinions, I should think.
 
He looked like a promising candidate until I saw his stance on the second amendment. For some reason I can?t support a candidate that picks and chooses what portions of the Constitution he, or she is willing to support.
 
Originally posted by: The Yeti
He looked like a promising candidate until I saw his stance on the second amendment. For some reason I can?t support a candidate that picks and chooses what portions of the Constitution he, or she is willing to support.
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<Sigh>. Perhaps he's just another Democrat through-and-through. I'm sure he must be very well aware of the intricacies of the Second Amendment, though, having been a professor of Constitutional Law for several years.
 
I honestly don't know how you get experience at running one of the most prominent countries in the world.
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Easy. Become a text book example of nepotism, go AWOL from non-combat duty, run a few businesses into the ground, fool scores of churchgoers into making you a horrible governor, then top it all with a generous helping of ignorance and apathy for most issues foreign and domestic.


Voila! President material!


😉


It's just hilarious to hear all the Bush fanbois do their best to invalidate Obama, I guess his brains and charisma have them pretty scared, and the Dem primaries aren't even over!
 
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