Obama muffed U.S. motto

[ericlp]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2010/dec/6/obama-muffed-us-motto/

Hahaha, these people would be shitting bricks if we actually got an atheist as the next president.

 

[blackangst1]

Oops

 

[IBMer]

Yes that foundational motto brought into law in 1956 against the constitution.

 

[Infohawk]

It was only deemed to be the national motto in the 50s. (On bills since the 1860s, probably to assuage South). It should be removed from both.

 

[werepossum]

Well, at least he correctly translated "e pluribus unum". Gore translated it as "out of one, many" and proceeded to do a whole speech on how America's strength was all the diverse groups in it.

Hey, with politicians you have to look on the bright side. Considering that the Messiah was attempting to point out the similarities between America and Indonesia - well, it could have been a lot worse. (Note: I am assuming here that he neither bowed nor dispensed any creepy back rubs.) And I have to admit that if someone had asked me the national motto, I would have thought "E pluribus unum" before "In G-d we trust" - to my shame.

 

[rudeguy]

how many Islamic phrases can he recite of the top of his head?? Many I would bet.

The guy is a joke. Why does he claim to be a Christian? Why not just grow a pair and admit that he is an atheist who sympathizes with Islamic terrorists?

Because he doesn't know how to tell the truth?
Right.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

Superfluous.

 

[JS80]

Obviously he doesn't think In God We Trust is the motto because he thinks he's god and his followers worship The One as one.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Last month, while speaking at the University of Indonesia in Jakarta, Mr. Obama was trying to stress the similarity of the U.S. and Indonesia and said "it is a story written into our national mottos."

"In the United States, our motto is E pluribus unum — out of many, one," he said, then compared it to the Indonesian motto, "Bhennika Tunggal Ika — unity in diversity."

E pluribus unum, Latin for "Out of many, one", is a motto on the Seal of the United States, along with Annuit cœptis and Novus ordo seclorum, and adopted by an Act of Congress in 1782.

Never codified by law, E pluribus unum was considered a de facto motto of the United States until 1956 when the United States Congress passed an act (H.J. Resolution 396), adopting In God We Trust as the official motto.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_pluribus_unum

He acknowledged more than one motto, then proceeded to correctly identify and use one. Faux outrage at its finest.

 

[werepossum]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E_pluribus_unum

He acknowledged more than one motto, then proceeded to correctly identify and use one. Faux outrage at its finest.

??? He did not say out of our many mottoes, one is "E pluribus unum - out of many, one." He said "Our motto is "E pluribus unum - out of many, one." He translated "E pluribus unum", he did NOT say it was one of our many mottoes. I have no rage - I'm sure it was an honest mistake, it's insignificant, and I'm glad he at least correctly understands the concept of "E pluribus unum" - but be honest about it.

Hey, at least he didn't say "In the United States, our motto is 'In Me we trust', and you trust Me too."

 

[theeedude]

"Congressional Prayer Caucus?" Looks like GOP is on top of things that really matter to America in this recession

 

[CanOWorms]

Good

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

??? He did not say out of our many mottoes, one is "E pluribus unum - out of many, one." He said "Our motto is "E pluribus unum - out of many, one." He translated "E pluribus unum", he did NOT say it was one of our many mottoes. I have no rage - I'm sure it was an honest mistake, it's insignificant, and I'm glad he at least correctly understands the concept of "E pluribus unum" - but be honest about it.

Hey, at least he didn't say "In the United States, our motto is 'In Me we trust', and you trust Me too."

Re-read the first paragraph in the first quote. He said "motos."

 

[Throckmorton]

Congressional Prayer Caucus. Welcome to Idiocracy.

 

[Amused]

It was only deemed to be the national motto in the 50s. (On bills since the 1860s, probably to assuage South). It should be removed from both.

Agreed

 

[Amused]

??? He did not say out of our many mottoes, one is "E pluribus unum - out of many, one." He said "Our motto is "E pluribus unum - out of many, one." He translated "E pluribus unum", he did NOT say it was one of our many mottoes. I have no rage - I'm sure it was an honest mistake, it's insignificant, and I'm glad he at least correctly understands the concept of "E pluribus unum" - but be honest about it.

Hey, at least he didn't say "In the United States, our motto is 'In Me we trust', and you trust Me too."

E pluribus unum is better anyhow.

At least he got something right for once.

Bully for him!

 

[werepossum]

Re-read the first paragraph in the first quote. He said "motos."

Our national mottoes - America's and Indonesia's. His speech is illustrating the similarities between America and Indonesia, which he does in part by comparing the motto of the United States with the motto of Indonesia - together the two are "mottoes". Were your understanding correct, he would not have then gone on to say "Our motto" but rather "One of our mottoes". Interestingly, even were your interpretation correct, Obama would still have been wrong. America has only one motto. That people used to consider "E pluribus unum" an unofficial motto means nothing after an official motto was adopted.

Honestly, I don't know why Obama's supporters must always insist that he is infallible. This is totally insignificant - a simple mistake, no damage, the kind every politician makes - no more than amusing to even his worst detractors. I've never heard Walks-On-Water himself claim he is infallible. Yet so many of his supporters must twist everything to keep him so, as though you people really do consider him the Messiah and his very divinity is at stake. It is baffling. Would he honestly be less in your eyes were you to admit he flubbed one minor bit of lore he should have known?

This is the equivalent of JFK telling Germans he's a pastry. Just chuckle and move on, dude.

 

[werepossum]

E pluribus unum is better anyhow.

At least he got something right for once.

Bully for him!

Agreed. He could probably have found an unofficial Indonesian motto stating "G-d is great" or something and compared that with "In G-d we trust", had he wanted to do so. Hardly like it's an important issue either way, just another BFF speech Presidents have to make. Personally I like both of those mottoes, and hell, probably they don't teach Senators that stuff until second year.

Obama should make a public speech all right. He should say "Yes, I blew it, and no, I'm not going to apologize. Put on your big girl panties and get over it."

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

For fuck's sake, I'm certainly not one to insist Obama's infallible. And re-reading it you're likely right that he was talking of US & Indonesian mottoes instead of multiple US ones. But this is still a non-issue, barely worthy of a blog post, let alone BS posturing by congress critters. And I'd imagine Obama supporters are a little sensitive to criticism since the opposition uses nearly every step the man takes as an opportunity to lay it on. Obama breathes and he's trying to destroy America. Sort of like that sig there.

 

[werepossum]

For fuck's sake, I'm certainly not one to insist Obama's infallible. And re-reading it you're likely right that he was talking of US & Indonesian mottoes instead of multiple US ones. But this is still a non-issue, barely worthy of a blog post, let alone BS posturing by congress critters. And I'd imagine Obama supporters are a little sensitive to criticism since the opposition uses nearly every step the man takes as an opportunity to lay it on. Obama breathes and he's trying to destroy America. Sort of like that sig there.

Then we are in agreement completely. It's mildly humorous and entirely without significance.

For my sig - it's important that we all remember Obama's agenda, which is to completely change America from its current and traditional identity. One may find this a good thing or a bad thing depending on your politics and exactly what he has in mind for the end game, but no one should ever forget it. Thus I quote his own words.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Yep, let's preserve an identity that increasingly prides itself on excess and a "I'm getting mine fuck everyone else attitude." Now that's worth saving, screw sustainability and exceptionalism, we're the USA!

And spare me any "Why do you hate America" responses. I don't hate it, that's why I'm not one of the folks trying to turn it into another banana republic shithole.

 

[IBMer]

how many Islamic phrases can he recite of the top of his head?? Many I would bet.

The guy is a joke. Why does he claim to be a Christian? Why not just grow a pair and admit that he is an atheist who sympathizes with Islamic terrorists?

Because he doesn't know how to tell the truth?
Right.

Please tell me this post is in jest, my right-sarcasmo meter is a little wonky lately.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Please tell me this post is in jest, my right-sarcasmo meter is a little wonky lately.

Are you kidding? It didn't get posted here, but did you see the heat that Obama came under last week for suggesting that America should actually do exceptional things before considering itself exceptional? The audacity!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/11/28/AR2010112804139.html

I guess that's on topic since it's more faux outrage.

 

[Amused]

Yep, let's preserve an identity that increasingly prides itself on excess and a "I'm getting mine fuck everyone else attitude." Now that's worth saving, screw sustainability and exceptionalism, we're the USA!

And spare me any "Why do you hate America" responses. I don't hate it, that's why I'm not one of the folks trying to turn it into another banana republic shithole.

The point is, Obama doesn't even live by that bullshit he spews. He expects the common folks to do without, while he heats and cools the white house to 72 year round, travels to NY and Chicago for steak dinner dates and drives around in a fucking SUV. Just like Gore.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/29/obama-cranks-up-white-hou_n_162127.html

I EARNED what I have and what I use. Fuck any politician or political ideology that dictates how I live my life. ESPECIALLY if they aren't leading by example.

 

[hal2kilo]

Yes that foundational motto brought into law in 1956 against the constitution.

Probably about the same time "under god" was added to the pledge of allegiance during the heady days of the fight against the godless cummunists.