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shortylickens

No Lifer
Jul 15, 2003
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Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: Anubis
well he did promise change, and change is not always good

I would have rathered 4 more years of Iraq with McCain -- at least that didn't affect me in any way possible. This dumbass is going to take everyone's privacy away.
OK, now I know I can safely ignore you.
 

Mani

Diamond Member
Aug 9, 2001
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Originally posted by: amdhunter
Originally posted by: Anubis
well he did promise change, and change is not always good

I would have rathered 4 more years of Iraq with McCain -- at least that didn't affect me in any way possible. This dumbass is going to take everyone's privacy away.

Wow...just wow.
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Ns1
1. I don't agree with the fees
2. Don't download shit and you wont' have anything to worry about

It really is this simple.

QTF, the RIAA doesn't go after people who don't illegally download mp3's.

except for the people that they have gone after that have nto downloaded MP3's,. besides those people you are right.

and not one of those people have ever had to pony up money. If you want to use that as an example, police in my neighborhood arrest people due to their skin color (racial profiling) who haven't done shit on a regular basis. Because they POSSIBLY did something, just like if I have an mp3 on my computer it's POSSIBLE I downloaded it from Kazaa. If the RIAA raided my house, nothing would come from it. We should disband the police force too while we're at it.

the moral - sometimes innocent people get caught in the cross fire.
 

Wheezer

Diamond Member
Nov 2, 1999
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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Ns1
1. I don't agree with the fees
2. Don't download shit and you wont' have anything to worry about

It really is this simple.

QTF, the RIAA doesn't go after people who don't illegally download mp3's.

except for the people that they have gone after that have nto downloaded MP3's,. besides those people you are right.

and not one of those people have ever had to pony up money. If you want to use that as an example, police in my neighborhood arrest people due to their skin color (racial profiling) who haven't done shit on a regular basis. We should disband the police force too.

the moral - sometimes innocent people get caught in the cross fire.

except for defense attorneys to fight to prove innocence.......you're right.

and as far as your moral...I suppose then innocent people executed in prison is just collateral damage to an imperfect system?

either way I don't give a shit....if your smart and know how to do it right you don't get caught.
 

Aharami

Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Ns1
1. I don't agree with the fees
2. Don't download shit and you wont' have anything to worry about

It really is this simple.

QTF, the RIAA doesn't go after people who don't illegally download mp3's.

what happens when they change the laws to make backing up of your legally purchased DVDs or CDs a crime too. What happens when they find all those DVD ISOs on your HTPC's HD because you didnt want to have to physically change each disc and thus ripped them all for easy access even though you have all those physical DVDs stored away in your attic.
 

newb111

Diamond Member
Oct 8, 2003
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Originally posted by: theflyingpig
Originally posted by: newb111
How is this not P&N?

You could have simply ignored the thread. Anyone could tell from the title where this thread was going, yet you still decided to click on the thread and type up your wannabe mod message. Pathetic.

Yet you complained about my post and could have ignored it. Pathetic.
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Ns1
1. I don't agree with the fees
2. Don't download shit and you wont' have anything to worry about

It really is this simple.

QTF, the RIAA doesn't go after people who don't illegally download mp3's.

except for the people that they have gone after that have nto downloaded MP3's,. besides those people you are right.

and not one of those people have ever had to pony up money. If you want to use that as an example, police in my neighborhood arrest people due to their skin color (racial profiling) who haven't done shit on a regular basis. We should disband the police force too.

the moral - sometimes innocent people get caught in the cross fire.

except for defense attorneys to fight to prove innocence.......you're right.

ok same for the people of color in my neighborhood. Some ended up losing their homes from lawyer costs. Neither case makes it right, but shit happens.
 

Legendary

Diamond Member
Jan 22, 2002
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Huge corporations and associations hire top quality legal talent. They don't make them sign oaths of fealty to the concept they are litigating.
Lawyers are essentially mercs.
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Ns1
1. I don't agree with the fees
2. Don't download shit and you wont' have anything to worry about

It really is this simple.

QTF, the RIAA doesn't go after people who don't illegally download mp3's.

what happens when they change the laws to make backing up of your legally purchased DVDs or CDs a crime too. What happens when they find all those DVD ISOs on your HTPC's HD because you didnt want to have to physically change each disc and thus ripped them all for easy access even though you have all those physical DVDs stored away in your attic.

How is this going to happen, realistically I mean. Are they just going to randomly raid homes looking for ISO's of DVD's? What you bring up would be a one in a million shot. I don't see them ever doing this "ohhhh MAYBE the guy living at 10555 Main street Unit B7 has ISOs of movies on his box! let's raid his condo!"

in all honesty I think even if I had ISO's on my box, I would be more worried about possibly anything else I could think up.
 

Jack Flash

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Sep 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Ns1
1. I don't agree with the fees
2. Don't download shit and you wont' have anything to worry about

It really is this simple.

QTF, the RIAA doesn't go after people who don't illegally download mp3's.

what happens when they change the laws to make backing up of your legally purchased DVDs or CDs a crime too. What happens when they find all those DVD ISOs on your HTPC's HD because you didnt want to have to physically change each disc and thus ripped them all for easy access even though you have all those physical DVDs stored away in your attic.

On the flip side...

What happens when copyright is abolished and no money is invested in the production of new music or movies. What happens when artists stop being artists because they know there's no way to make any living in it? What happens when we halt culture in the name of protecting free culture?

Pay for your damn MP3.
 

Wheezer

Diamond Member
Nov 2, 1999
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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Ns1
1. I don't agree with the fees
2. Don't download shit and you wont' have anything to worry about

It really is this simple.

QTF, the RIAA doesn't go after people who don't illegally download mp3's.

except for the people that they have gone after that have nto downloaded MP3's,. besides those people you are right.

and not one of those people have ever had to pony up money. If you want to use that as an example, police in my neighborhood arrest people due to their skin color (racial profiling) who haven't done shit on a regular basis. We should disband the police force too.

the moral - sometimes innocent people get caught in the cross fire.

except for defense attorneys to fight to prove innocence.......you're right.

ok same for the people of color in my neighborhood. Some ended up losing their homes from lawyer costs. Neither case makes it right, but shit happens.

so because "shit happens" corporate intrusion and manipulation of our legislative and judicial system is ok?

I see your point though....the same can be said for those killed by a drunk driver....too bad, shit happens.
 

PokerGuy

Lifer
Jul 2, 2005
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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Ns1
1. I don't agree with the fees
2. Don't download shit and you wont' have anything to worry about

It really is this simple.

QTF, the RIAA doesn't go after people who don't illegally download mp3's.

Wrong. They have before, and they will again.
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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Originally posted by: Jack Flash
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Ns1
1. I don't agree with the fees
2. Don't download shit and you wont' have anything to worry about

It really is this simple.

QTF, the RIAA doesn't go after people who don't illegally download mp3's.

what happens when they change the laws to make backing up of your legally purchased DVDs or CDs a crime too. What happens when they find all those DVD ISOs on your HTPC's HD because you didnt want to have to physically change each disc and thus ripped them all for easy access even though you have all those physical DVDs stored away in your attic.

On the flip side...

What happens when copyright is abolished and no money is invested in the production of new music or movies. What happens when artists stop being artists because they know there's no way to make any living in it? What happens when we halt culture in the name of protecting free culture?

Pay for your damn MP3.

What about OP's PRIVACY! Because of Obama less people will die in Iraq, and OP will have a harder time downloaing MP3s, with more worry of getting caught. Obama is an ASSHOLE FOR THIS!

I'd love to print OP's message, put him in a room with 10 people who lost loved ones in Iraq and give them a copy of what he said, and watch what happens. That would be pure win.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jack Flash
On the flip side...

What happens when copyright is abolished and no money is invested in the production of new music or movies. What happens when artists stop being artists because they know there's no way to make any living in it? What happens when we halt culture in the name of protecting free culture?

Pay for your damn MP3.

This will never happen, of course, because there are plenty of folks who enjoy making music just for the sake of making music.
 

Baked

Lifer
Dec 28, 2004
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Hey dumbfuck OP w/ the obama avatar, why don't you take your black people hatin' to the P&N.
 

Jack Flash

Golden Member
Sep 10, 2006
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Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Originally posted by: Jack Flash
On the flip side...

What happens when copyright is abolished and no money is invested in the production of new music or movies. What happens when artists stop being artists because they know there's no way to make any living in it? What happens when we halt culture in the name of protecting free culture?

Pay for your damn MP3.

This will never happen, of course, because there are plenty of folks who enjoy making music just for the sake of making music.

Yeah the point is that both slippery slopes are ridiculous.
 

BoberFett

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: Jack Flash
On the flip side...

What happens when copyright is abolished and no money is invested in the production of new music or movies. What happens when artists stop being artists because they know there's no way to make any living in it? What happens when we halt culture in the name of protecting free culture?

Pay for your damn MP3.

So you think all of those bands manufactured by record labels are culture?
 

Regs

Lifer
Aug 9, 2002
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I better copy my car just incase I crash it. God damn car wont fit in the rom though.
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Wheezer
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: waggy
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Ns1
1. I don't agree with the fees
2. Don't download shit and you wont' have anything to worry about

It really is this simple.

QTF, the RIAA doesn't go after people who don't illegally download mp3's.

except for the people that they have gone after that have nto downloaded MP3's,. besides those people you are right.

and not one of those people have ever had to pony up money. If you want to use that as an example, police in my neighborhood arrest people due to their skin color (racial profiling) who haven't done shit on a regular basis. We should disband the police force too.

the moral - sometimes innocent people get caught in the cross fire.

except for defense attorneys to fight to prove innocence.......you're right.

ok same for the people of color in my neighborhood. Some ended up losing their homes from lawyer costs. Neither case makes it right, but shit happens.

so because "shit happens" corporate intrusion and manipulation of our legislative and judicial system is ok?

I see your point though....the same can be said for those killed by a drunk driver....too bad, shit happens.

This shit happens is completely avoidable. You don't HAVE to have mp3's on your computer. You don't even HAVE to have a computer. I bet a person without a computer will never be in court from an RIAA lawsuit. A dude in my city was shot by the police because they assumed he was a burglary suspect they were after. Turns out he wasn't, he was simply outside and BOOM he got shot and killed. He was shot for being black, something he couldn't do shit about. Another example of shit happens though. It could have been prevented if we didn't have cops, but then that would lead to an even bigger problem with crime.

SHIT HAPPENS.
 

Aharami

Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: Jack Flash
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Ns1
1. I don't agree with the fees
2. Don't download shit and you wont' have anything to worry about

It really is this simple.

QTF, the RIAA doesn't go after people who don't illegally download mp3's.

what happens when they change the laws to make backing up of your legally purchased DVDs or CDs a crime too. What happens when they find all those DVD ISOs on your HTPC's HD because you didnt want to have to physically change each disc and thus ripped them all for easy access even though you have all those physical DVDs stored away in your attic.

On the flip side...

What happens when copyright is abolished and no money is invested in the production of new music or movies. What happens when artists stop being artists because they know there's no way to make any living in it? What happens when we halt culture in the name of protecting free culture?

Pay for your damn MP3.

maybe we'll get some real music. those who do it for the love of music and not for the money. look, im not defending piracy. Pirates who get caught, should have to pay. But then again, the punishment should fit the crime. $150k for each song in penalty is beyond ridiculous!
 

tatteredpotato

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Originally posted by: QueBert
you would rather have US Soliders DYING in Iraq over your privacy? lol and you call him a douche. Also this is #5 right? he didn't hire the other 4 now did he?

With all due respect to our soldiers... isn't that what they signed up for? To defend our rights as Americans? If you take those away what's left to defend?
 

QueBert

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
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Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: Jack Flash
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Ns1
1. I don't agree with the fees
2. Don't download shit and you wont' have anything to worry about

It really is this simple.

QTF, the RIAA doesn't go after people who don't illegally download mp3's.

what happens when they change the laws to make backing up of your legally purchased DVDs or CDs a crime too. What happens when they find all those DVD ISOs on your HTPC's HD because you didnt want to have to physically change each disc and thus ripped them all for easy access even though you have all those physical DVDs stored away in your attic.

On the flip side...

What happens when copyright is abolished and no money is invested in the production of new music or movies. What happens when artists stop being artists because they know there's no way to make any living in it? What happens when we halt culture in the name of protecting free culture?

Pay for your damn MP3.

maybe we'll get some real music. those who do it for the love of music and not for the money. look, im not defending piracy. Pirates who get caught, should have to pay. But then again, the punishment should fit the crime. $150k for each song in penalty is beyond ridiculous!

While the amount is ridiculous, an innocent person will NEVER have to pay that, so my logic tell me if anyone actually has to shell out $200k, they are guilty. I can't feel bad for them seeing how they made the choice to download the song. They could make the amount a billion dollars a song, and I would have zero worries because I don't illegally download music, ever. See how that works? The number means nothing to honest people.
 

eleison

Golden Member
Mar 29, 2006
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Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: Jack Flash
Originally posted by: Aharami
Originally posted by: QueBert
Originally posted by: leftyman
Originally posted by: Ns1
1. I don't agree with the fees
2. Don't download shit and you wont' have anything to worry about

It really is this simple.

QTF, the RIAA doesn't go after people who don't illegally download mp3's.

what happens when they change the laws to make backing up of your legally purchased DVDs or CDs a crime too. What happens when they find all those DVD ISOs on your HTPC's HD because you didnt want to have to physically change each disc and thus ripped them all for easy access even though you have all those physical DVDs stored away in your attic.

On the flip side...

What happens when copyright is abolished and no money is invested in the production of new music or movies. What happens when artists stop being artists because they know there's no way to make any living in it? What happens when we halt culture in the name of protecting free culture?

Pay for your damn MP3.

What about OP's PRIVACY! Because of Obama less people will die in Iraq, and OP will have a harder time downloaing MP3s, with more worry of getting caught. Obama is an ASSHOLE FOR THIS!

I'd love to print OP's message, put him in a room with 10 people who lost loved ones in Iraq and give them a copy of what he said, and watch what happens. That would be pure win.

Keep on drinking the koolaid.. We'll all be unemployed, waiting for the government dole, the government welfare check.. killing each other because of the lost jobs and incomes; while we all bowing to Saudi kings. But hey, at least we aren't in Iraq anymore...

Iraq. Soldiers signed there names to go there. Majority reenlisted. Some get killed. Get over it.


 

SlowSpyder

Lifer
Jan 12, 2005
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I can only imagine the backlash had this been Bush, but since it was Obama it's fine and dandy to so many here.