Obama has considered forcing curches to marry gays

[Fern]

I don't know about Obama, but I feel certain somebody has thought about forcing churches to marry gays.

I bet they're gonna try to do it too.

Fern

 

[zinfamous]

So why did Obama even bring up the point?



P.S.

The amount of personal attacks in this thread gave me a huge laugh. Keep it classy lefties.

I don't know...why don't you fucking ask him?



this is your logic:

me: Hey guys, it's a really bad idea to kill a bunch of Jews!
you: See! he's obviously once thought about wanting to kill Jews!

 

[zinfamous]

LOL! Getting called on your phony outrage by Incorruptible. That's like Chris Brown telling you you to be nicer to your girlfriend.

Best laugh outside of the OP! danke.

 

[brycejones]

I would call you retarded but frankly that would be an insult to mentally disabled.

The mentally disabled are just that disabled. Retarded people have made a life style choice.

 

[Jhhnn]

I don't know about Obama, but I feel certain somebody has thought about forcing churches to marry gays.

I bet they're gonna try to do it too.

Fern

Project & jump to conclusions often?

Somebody? Somebody like who, exactly?

Apparently somebody you imagine to exist...

 

[brycejones]

And which state legislature does the Wesboro Baptist Church control?

Living in Kansas I would have to say ours.....

 

[1prophet]

I don't know about Obama, but I feel certain somebody has thought about forcing churches to marry gays.

I bet they're gonna try to do it too.

Fern

And if past precedent is looked at along with the gay rights movement equating its struggle to the civil rights movement, the possibility is very real.

two examples

the bob jones university incident where the IRS was used to go after the private university for it's policy against interracial dating, threatening to take away their tax exemption, before that the religious right didn't exist and tried to stay out of politics.

read about it here, the real reason the religious right was created, and it wasn't because of the pro-life antiabortion movement they proudly tout the last forty years.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5502785




the Mormon church was sued in federal court by the NAACP for its discriminatory practices against blacks in its hierarchy, then miraculously had a revelation allowing blacks to progress equally up the church ranks,

and that is the real reason the Mormon church pushed for proposition 8 in California because they feared that the government directly or indirectly through a federal lawsuit could once again make them have a new revelation accepting gay marriage.:whiste:
http://www.bsa-discrimination.org/html/lds-top.html

 

[jackschmittusa]

michal1980

I've already told you why he brought it up! Don't you read posts in your own thread? Afraid you might stumble over a fact or two?

 

[Jhhnn]

And if past precedent is looked at along with the gay rights movement equating its struggle to the civil rights movement, the possibility is very real.

two examples

the bob jones university incident where the IRS was used to go after the private university for it's policy against interracial dating, threatening to take away their tax exemption, before that the religious right didn't exist and tried to stay out of politics.

read about it here, the real reason the religious right was created, and it wasn't because of the pro-life antiabortion movement they proudly tout the last forty years.
http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=5502785




the Mormon church was sued in federal court by the NAACP for its discriminatory practices against blacks in its hierarchy, then miraculously had a revelation allowing blacks to progress equally up the church ranks,

and that is the real reason the Mormon church pushed for proposition 8 in California because they feared that the government directly or indirectly through a federal lawsuit could once again make them have a new revelation accepting gay marriage.:whiste:
http://www.bsa-discrimination.org/html/lds-top.html

So, uhh, the gubmint forced Bob Jones University to marry interracial couples?

And the Mormon Church, one of the most deeply reactionary organizations in the country, has actually been "forced" to marry interracial couples?

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

http://washingtonexaminer.com/obama-i-wont-make-churches-conduct-gay-marriages/article/2532418

Why else would he come out and say he wont do it? Obviously he had put some thought into the idea.

This has been voiced as a concern by many religious groups and you KNOW THAT.

Obamas answer was a reassurement that it won't come to that if he gets to decide the matter.

You're being either daft or dishonest, take your pick.

 

[Jhhnn]

This has been voiced as a concern by many religious groups and you KNOW THAT.

Obamas answer was a reassurement that it won't come to that if he gets to decide the matter.

You're being either daft or dishonest, take your pick.

He's channeling Wayne LaPierre of the NRA, who said that the Obama Admin not trying to grab yer guns means that they're really grabbing yer guns...

Daft *and* dishonest in the way that only fringewhacks can accomplish. They fool themselves first, and the rest follows.

 

[Zebo]

holy shit a red herring got this much play are u ppl stoopid

 

[Jhhnn]

holy shit a red herring got this much play are u ppl stoopid

They need fresh outrage on a daily basis in order to keep the Faith, to prevent any sort of introspection or self examination. Their worldview can't withstand much of that at all.

 

[OverVolt]

Why is the youtube logo rainbow for today? :awe:

 

[Fern]

Project & jump to conclusions often?

Somebody? Somebody like who, exactly?

Apparently somebody you imagine to exist...

It's called a 'prediction'. Yeah, it's that simple.

Fern

 

[BoberFett]

They need fresh outrage on a daily basis in order to keep the Faith, to prevent any sort of introspection or self examination. Their worldview can't withstand much of that at all.

Who is "they?" It seems to be one person.

But keep that left wing rage at the imaginary right wing going. Rage on, fellow rager.

 

[ichy]

I was going to point out how dishonest and idiotic the title of this thread is. Then I remembered: http://xkcd.com/386/

 

[Whiskey16]

I don't know about Obama, but I feel certain somebody has thought about forcing churches to marry gays.

I bet they're gonna try to do it too.

Care to support this?

Failing that, most of us will reasonably pass such FUD into the gutter along with birthers, fake moon landing, and 9/11 conspirators.

 

[justoh]

Predicting someone will try to force churches to marry gays is like predicting someone might force the KKK to accept blacks. Nobody would suggest such a thing unless they were doing it for lols. Private groups have always been allowed to discriminate.

 

[Jhhnn]

Who is "they?" It seems to be one person.

But keep that left wing rage at the imaginary right wing going. Rage on, fellow rager.

That's deliberately obtuse, considering the absurd premise of this thread & the contributions of members.

The premise and the linked article in the OP are in such stark contrast that anybody who buys into the OP's conspiracy theory at all deserves ridicule.

Not rejecting such notions as paranoid lunacy indicates a certain degree of buy-in, while projecting the future based on the premise is even more.

I suggest quite strongly that any member who bought into this at all take a look at themselves, that's all. Take a look at your most cherished beliefs, because you can't possible even entertain the OP's POV if your own is vaguely rational.

If being manipulated feels good, that's OK. That's what it's supposed to do. However, it's best to recognize it for what it is, and as an ongoing process, before one's worldview is totally warped.

 

[michal1980]

That's deliberately obtuse, considering the absurd premise of this thread & the contributions of members.

The premise and the linked article in the OP are in such stark contrast that anybody who buys into the OP's conspiracy theory at all deserves ridicule.

Not rejecting such notions as paranoid lunacy indicates a certain degree of buy-in, while projecting the future based on the premise is even more.

I suggest quite strongly that any member who bought into this at all take a look at themselves, that's all. Take a look at your most cherished beliefs, because you can't possible even entertain the OP's POV if your own is vaguely rational.

If being manipulated feels good, that's OK. That's what it's supposed to do. However, it's best to recognize it for what it is, and as an ongoing process, before one's worldview is totally warped.

If you cant see that Obama has considered forcing churches to do this, you view is warped by being in his bum hole.

 

[Skyclad1uhm1]

If you cant see that Obama has considered forcing churches to do this, you view is warped by being in his bum hole.

So if people ask him whether the government will do that and he answers that they won't it's automatically an acknowledgement that they will or that they have at least considered it? Understood.

michal1980, are you a member of Al Qaida planning to murder millions of Americans with a dirty bomb?

Note that any answer you give is an acknowledgement that you indeed are, or that you have at least considered joining Al Qaida and doing that.

 

[dank69]

So if people ask him whether the government will do that and he answers that they won't it's automatically an acknowledgement that they will or that they have at least considered it? Understood.

michal1980, are you a member of Al Qaida planning to murder millions of Americans with a dirty bomb?

Note that any answer you give is an acknowledgement that you indeed are, or that you have at least considered joining Al Qaida and doing that.

And if he doesn't deny it he is obviously guilty.

 

[Jhhnn]

If you cant see that Obama has considered forcing churches to do this, you view is warped by being in his bum hole.

If your views won't withstand self examination, what value could they possibly have?

Believing in this sort of thing requires very deep conditioning, willingly accepted, layer upon layer of lies & deception. Propaganda experts have labored for decades to create the sort of belief system you exhibit at its extreme. It's what's wrong with Righties in general, to varying degrees, and why their leadership emphasizes Faith-based everything.

Or, believing in things you don't understand leads to believing that you do, no matter how wrong you are at the time.

 

[Siddhartha]

Setting aside the bizzaro world reasoning that saying you are against something means that you have thought about doing it.

How would the Federal Government force churches to marry gays or anyone else?