Obama had Trumps phone tapped?

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zinfamous

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President strawman gonna create another strawman lie.

"Who, me Russian? Look at what people are saying that black man did!"

And watch--all of the Trump surrogates here are going to swallow it whole. No spitting, because they want to ingest the next load, whatever it may be.
 

HomerJS

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brycejones

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Oh sweet Jesus now he is ranting about Arnold and low ratings.

Best twitter response I saw was

"Guess you have a late tee time today"
 

MongGrel

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Oh sweet Jesus now he is ranting about Arnold and low ratings.

Best twitter response I saw was

"Guess you have a late tee time today"

Heh seriously ?

What a mess.

I had not even looked at any of the news feeds today yet, but I guess that is not surprising, Trump is the throw shit at the wall and see if anything sticks POTUS I guess as far as policy, the US has become an embarrassment.

He is deregulating things and having his family sucking in the money at a record level though.
 
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mxnerd

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A few days ago he said Obama is behind the protests, now he said Obama taps his phone?

Where is the evidence?

The new POTUS just can't talk truth that's based on facts.

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How the hell can this guy be elected as President?
 
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fskimospy

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Sometimes it still doesn't seem real that the president is ranting like an eight year old about a TV ratings battle with The Terminator.

Even if you're a conservative and want conservative policies enacted this guy should scare the shit out of you. He sincerely appears to be mentally ill.
 

mxnerd

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Trump totally think he is under protection of first amendment like everyone else.
 

AnonymouseUser

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Since Obama is a filthy Saudi puppet, his punishment should fit the crime: RIP(ieces) Obama

Take two weeks off for this. You have a history of going disgustingly over the line.

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Humpy

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Sometimes it still doesn't seem real that the president is ranting like an eight year old about a TV ratings battle with The Terminator.

Even if you're a conservative and want conservative policies enacted this guy should scare the shit out of you. He sincerely appears to be mentally ill.

He's fine, it's just the cocaine talking.
 

fskimospy

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A few days ago he said Obama is behind the protests, now he said Obama taps his phone?

Where is the evidence?

The new POTUS just can't talk truth that's based on facts.

How the hell can this guy be elected as President?

Well now that he has tweeted about it publicly that means if there was a FISA warrant to tap his phone that warrant is now declassified. If people aren't writing up FOIL requests for that information right now I would be amazed.

Personally, I wouldn't be that surprised if there were and based on the evidence available one seems easily justified. If you know a hostile foreign power is trying to elect someone it seems important to know their involvement.

What IS both amazing and baffling is that the president is declassifying FISA data by ranting about it through Twitter because he's mad that he looks bad. This is behavior befitting a child and it's incredibly dangerous.
 
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Well now that he has tweeted about it publicly that means if there was a FISA warrant to tap his phone that warrant is now declassified. If people aren't writing up FOIL requests for that information right now I would be amazed.

Personally, I wouldn't be that surprised if there were and based on the evidence available one seems easily justified. If you know a hostile foreign power is trying to elect someone it seems important to know their involvement.

What IS both amazing and baffling is that the president is declassifying FISA data by ranting about it through Twitter because he's mad that he looks bad. This is behavior befitting a child and it's incredibly dangerous.

Or the other question is he can simply ask the FBI if there was one and what they had. The FBI say yes and hand it over, if its something they are still working on they would say no or no comment.
Strange days but I'm still uneasy if its true.
 

Jaskalas

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I for one invite President Trump to shut down the NSA if he feels so strongly about being "tapped".
 

Pens1566

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2 possible sources for this recent rant:

1) He got the story from Breitbart yesterday - http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ma-used-police-state-tactics-undermine-trump/

In which case, he's still a loon.

2) He's referring to actual FISA warrrant related searches granted in october. In which case, he's essentially confirmed that someone authorized the tap based on actual evidence against someone involving a foreign intelligence service and his campaign. Also, he's brought it out in the open and made it fair game for someone to dig up and bring out the details of said warrant.


This guy is his own worst enemy. Period.
 
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fskimospy

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Or the other question is he can simply ask the FBI if there was one and what they had. The FBI say yes and hand it over, if its something they are still working on they would say no or no comment.
Strange days but I'm still uneasy if its true.

Trump has access to them, sure, but what I mean is now we all have access to them if they exist. By saying they exist publicly Trump has (perhaps inadvertently) declassified them.

Regardless, the president can't order that a specific individual be wiretapped as there are specific protections in place to prevent that abuse of power. If Trump was woretapped it came as the result of a law enforcement or intelligence agency believing there was either probable cause he committed a crime or there was reason to believe he was involved in some foreign intelligence activity.
 

fskimospy

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2 possible sources for this recent rant:

1) He got the story from Breitbart yesterday - http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ma-used-police-state-tactics-undermine-trump/

In which case, he's still a loon.

2) He's referring to actual FISA warrrant related searches granted in october. In which case, he's essentially confirmed that someone authorized the tap based on actual evidence against someone involving a foreign intelligence service and his campaign. Also, he's brought it out in the open and made it fair game for someone to dig up and bring out the details of said warrant.

This guy is his own worst enemy. Period.

Yes, this exactly. He's either a crazed, ranting uncle or he's mistakenly opened his administration up to investigation by journalists, etc.

It's really sad when the only two possible answers are that he's insane or a moron.
 

HomerJS

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2 possible sources for this recent rant:

1) He got the story from Breitbart yesterday - http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...ma-used-police-state-tactics-undermine-trump/

In which case, he's still a loon.

2) He's referring to actual FISA warrrant related searches granted in october. In which case, he's essentially confirmed that someone authorized the tap based on actual evidence against someone involving a foreign intelligence service and his campaign. Also, he's brought it out in the open and made it fair game for someone to dig up and bring out the details of said warrant.


This guy is his own worst enemy. Period.
Anyone want to make bets if Breitbart will be banned from next WH presser?? My bet is no.
 

luv2liv

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it really bugs me to know the media and people take his bs seriously.
before the election, if we had ignored his stupidity, he woulda gone back to the hole he came from. anyone remember Kim K? nobody cares now cause Chump stupidity gets all the attention.
 

BonzaiDuck

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Maybe people were bored and voted for the entertainment candidate?
I've seen yesterday's spot interviews -- "man/woman on the street" -- with sol-called-president Dick-Face's supporters.

That disgusting cornpone, ignorant, stupid, cerebrally--challenged brain-defective trash is unbelievable for their blindness and moral depravity.

Somebody suggested there is suddenly a bothersome worry in the so-called president's secret thoughts, because he has tweeted this business blaming Obama for phone-taps.

I could be wrong, but I'm pretty damn sure. You won't be able to convince the clueless cornpone twits, but OF COURSE his phone was tapped, if there was a LEGAL and ACCEPTED tap on the phones of Russian suspects or known espionage actors. If it were a matter of the Patriot Act, there would have involvement of the special court that approves that sort of thing.

Phone taps on Residentura and other Russian individuals is a matter of routine. if they happened to be talking to Trump, that's his tough luck.

On the positive side, I e-mailed a "Thank you" to Obama in late November or early December, with an applause as well for VP Biden. [You can do things like this simply by going to the White House website -- but I have nothing nice to communicate after January 20.] I suggested that Obama likely began thinking of the statutes for "misprision of a felony." I was just worried that he hadn't thought out the endgame, since he let the whole matter slide until after the election, and doing so has a sieve of different possible consequences. Raising the matter before the election also has possible consequences, and any thinking American can understand that too.

So some several days ago, they announced that the Obama team had worked very hard to archive the accumulation of information, evidence and related artifacts before leaving office.

Folks? Given the absolutely unprecedented language, agenda, associates, incompetence and ignorance of the current "so-called president," Obama's attention to the facts and details just to anticipate the various consequences is heroic. I just hope it is all sufficient to expel the Anti-Christ, Putin-puppet, asshole and scum from the White House.

This is exactly what the Russians would have wanted in terms of "respect" for the American presidency and our respect for each other. Some few years ago, a retired KGB [or current-day equivalent] officer was quoted to say he predicted the US would split up into parts just as USSR had.

I had some thoughts about that as I recall, but just hoped it wasn't true. We'd been through 8 years of Bush and then another 8 years of hate from the cornpone white-trash scum supporting the Pied-Piper of Birtherism.

And I now think it's an acceptable outcome. If they are really that stupid, that blind, that biased -- they're not "good Americans" to me. But all of their cities are "Blue."

The only way to get an ignoramus to learn something is a repetitive narrative about the facts so they can congratulate themselves for figuring it out on their own. The last person to admit being ignorant is a stupid person, and I've heard a lot of stupid people advocating for Donald ScumF**k the Traitor.

And of course, the Russians had seen that all along. They probably had a team of demographers, sociologists and psychologists studying the US in great detail and then proposing different psy-war initiatives, techniques and approaches. The GOP loyalists have constantly argued "you can't prove it actually affected the outcome," because all they care about his keeping a grip on the White House. But in warfare, that's not the issue, but yes -- it could be proven. One would think that the Russians were also collecting statistical data as they proceeded through their psy-war campaign. "Is it having an effect here? Or there? How many percentage points change can be extrapolated from this or that survey result?'

Trump's behavior in this business is already an established pattern. He tipped his hand by publicly asking the Russians to hack Hillary -- albeit her personal server. They hacked the State Department. Every time the Russian matter comes up in news and conversation, Trump is there patting the Russians on the back to deflect attention from it. [But it drew attention, didn't it?] And every time some new twist appears on what Trump calls "fake news," he coins a new song-and-dance to make an accusing finger point the opposite direction.

So this is just a "tell" from a narcissist gambler that he's worried about his cell-phone history.

In other words, as a matter of probability, THERE . . . IS . . A 'THERE' THERE.
 
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