Obama finally doing SOMETHING right, deports a blatant Illegal

[Hacp]

The letter appealing to President Obama was written in frustration in January, by a woman who saw her family reflected in his. She was a white United States citizen married to an African man, and the couple — college-educated professionals in Manhattan — were stymied in their long legal battle to keep him in the country.

Could the president help, asked the woman, Caroline Jamieson, a marketing executive. She described the impasse that confronted her husband, Hervé Fonkou Takoulo, a citizen of Cameron with an outstanding deportation order from a failed bid for asylum.

The response came on June 3, when two immigration agents stopped Mr. Takoulo, 34, in front of the couple’s East Village apartment building. He says one agent asked him, “Did you write a letter to President Obama?”
When he acknowledged that his wife had, he was handcuffed and sent to an immigration jail in New Jersey for deportation.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/19/nyregion/19immig.html?hp



So Finally Obama does something right and deports blatant illegals. Where was he when those kids from Florida marched in support of amnesty for illegals? No where to be found. At least he is taking this particular case seriously. If he keeps deporting the illegals he might not be so bad after all.

NOT! Here is the rest of the story.

But on Thursday night, Mr. Takoulo was just as suddenly released, after Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials had been questioned about the case by The New York Times.

What a joke.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Looks like some Messiah was in this guy's corner.

 

[jman19]

Nice troll thread.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Nice troll thread.

Disregard who is saying this and the style used, the topic points to something curious.

In other threads we hear how Obama is upholding the law of the land by opposing the AZ law.

Here we have a case where someone is arrested for violating the law, but then is released when it comes before The Great Eye of the NY times.

There's a credibility gap and it's huge.

 

[Cogman]

Honestly, this is the type of guy I would want to be sped through the system. He has a college degree, he could be useful.

 

[shortylickens]

Fuck Obama.

There, I said it. Now I will no longer comment on him, because nothing he ever does will be of interest to me again.

Of course, I'll still complain about illegal aliens in general.

 

[Sinsear]

It's because the guy is black.

 

[NoWhereM]

Obama didn't try to deport anyone. Just like the cake, your thread title is a lie.

Officials said they were investigating how the letter — one of thousands routinely referred to the agency by the White House to gather information for a reply — had been improperly used by the agency’s “fugitive operations” unit to find and arrest Mr. Takoulo, who has an engineering degree and no criminal record.

While Mr. Takoulo is still subject to the deportation order, immigration officials acknowledged that their actions in the case seemed to violate their standard practice of not using letters seeking help from elected officials as investigative leads. The handling of the case also conflicted with the Obama administration’s stated policy of arresting deportable immigrants only if they have criminal records.

 

[EagleKeeper]

Obama didn't try to deport anyone. Just like the cake, your thread title is a lie.

Officials said they were investigating how the letter — one of thousands routinely referred to the agency by the White House to gather information for a reply — had been improperly used by the agency’s “fugitive operations” unit to find and arrest Mr. Takoulo, who has an engineering degree and no criminal record.

While Mr. Takoulo is still subject to the deportation order, immigration officials acknowledged that their actions in the case seemed to violate their standard practice of not using letters seeking help from elected officials as investigative leads. The handling of the case also conflicted with the Obama administration’s stated policy of arresting deportable immigrants only if they have criminal records.

Typical of this administration - seelctively chosing which laws to enforce and only and even in that, not consistant across the board.

What happened to transparency and reversal of Bush's "failed/flawed" policies?

 

[Jhhnn]

Classic self-righteous brain-fart from the OP, a symptom of withdrawal from outrage addiction. When they can't get the good stuff, they'll just go for the bunk. Better than nothing, right?

 

[Bowfinger]

Disregard who is saying this and the style used, the topic points to something curious.

In other threads we hear how Obama is upholding the law of the land by opposing the AZ law.

Here we have a case where someone is arrested for violating the law, but then is released when it comes before The Great Eye of the NY times.

There's a credibility gap and it's huge.

Not at all. In the first place, if one reads the article, there's no hint that Obama had any personal involvement with this case. The title of the thread is a lie. As per standard practice, the letter was forwarded to ICE for review.

Moreover, arresting Takoulo violated ICE's own policy against using appeals to political officials as leads in investigations. When ICE recognized this, they released him pending further investigation ... with an ankle tracking bracelet so they can keep tabs on him. This seems reasonable to me given the facts presented. He entered the U.S. legally on a visa, put himself through college getting an engineering degree, married a U.S. citizen, had no criminal record, and worked through proper channels to try to get legal permission to remain ... as a taxpayer. This was not some unskilled worker who slipped in illegally and was trying to hide from the system.

 

[jman19]

Disregard who is saying this and the style used, the topic points to something curious.

In other threads we hear how Obama is upholding the law of the land by opposing the AZ law.

Here we have a case where someone is arrested for violating the law, but then is released when it comes before The Great Eye of the NY times.

There's a credibility gap and it's huge.

I'm not saying there is no legitimate issue here, I am saying the title and OP reeks of trolling.

 

[Bowfinger]

Typical of this administration - seelctively chosing which laws to enforce and only and even in that, not consistant across the board.

What happened to transparency and reversal of Bush's "failed/flawed" policies?

What a blindly partisan crock. Kindly point to any administration, either party, federal, state, or local, that isn't selective in how it enforces the laws. There are countless laws on the books, some far more significant than others, with only a limited number of cops, prosecutors, judges ... and prisons. We already have one of the highest percentages of imprisoned people of any country in the world. If it weren't for selective law enforcement, we'd have nobody left free.

This is Yet Another Wing-Nut Emo Rage (YAWNER) thread, full of knee-jerk partisan hackery and totally devoid of substance. The nutters need to start coming up with more meat and fewer YAWNERs or they'll be so thoroughly marginalized there will be nobody listening if they do finally find something major.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Not at all. In the first place, if one reads the article, there's no hint that Obama had any personal involvement with this case. The title of the thread is a lie. As per standard practice, the letter was forwarded to ICE for review.

Moreover, arresting Takoulo violated ICE's own policy against using appeals to political officials as leads in investigations. When ICE recognized this, they released him pending further investigation ... with an ankle tracking bracelet so they can keep tabs on him. This seems reasonable to me given the facts presented. He entered the U.S. legally on a visa, put himself through college getting an engineering degree, married a U.S. citizen, had no criminal record, and worked through proper channels to try to get legal permission to remain ... as a taxpayer. This was not some unskilled worker who slipped in illegally and was trying to hide from the system.

I have a friend from Jamaica who is in the US legally. She's gone through nursing school and now is in medical school. The Powers that Be screwed up her paperwork and now she has two case numbers. It's been two years and a lot of money in legal costs to get that fixed. Why is it important? Because she can't go home to visit her family or leave the US for any reason as she won't be allowed to return.

Two years to fix a number, and it's still not settled.

I agree this isn't comparable to AZ illegal aliens but it frosts me when I hear that people can't get help until it comes into the public eye and then the "compassionate politics" as I put it comes into play.

This whole thing is ridiculous as this wasn't fixed because it was wrong but because the government got caught being stupid.

That's what we've come down to. It's only important if it's in the news, and while I do not directly blame Obama for this particular incident, he is certainly a follower of this principle.

I hate politicians.

 

[EagleKeeper]

That is my point. If you are going to complain about one and then continue to do the same; where is your credability?

Obama was supposed to reverse what Bush was doing claiming that those policies were bad for the coutnry. Yet he is following the same path

 

[Bowfinger]

That is my point. If you are going to complain about one and then continue to do the same; where is your credability?

Obama was supposed to reverse what Bush was doing claiming that those policies were bad for the coutnry. Yet he is following the same path

I'm missing it. Which Bush failed policy applies in this situation?

 

[umbrella39]

Classic self-righteous brain-fart from the OP, a symptom of withdrawal from outrage addiction. When they can't get the good stuff, they'll just go for the bunk. Better than nothing, right?

They have turned into pathetic little girls who can't make it through the day without feigning indignation. When there is nothing to be fake angry about they make shit up. SSDD.

 

[Bowfinger]

I have a friend from Jamaica who is in the US legally. She's gone through nursing school and now is in medical school. The Powers that Be screwed up her paperwork and now she has two case numbers. It's been two years and a lot of money in legal costs to get that fixed. Why is it important? Because she can't go home to visit her family or leave the US for any reason as she won't be allowed to return.

Two years to fix a number, and it's still not settled.

I agree this isn't comparable to AZ illegal aliens but it frosts me when I hear that people can't get help until it comes into the public eye and then the "compassionate politics" as I put it comes into play.

This whole thing is ridiculous as this wasn't fixed because it was wrong but because the government got caught being stupid.

That's what we've come down to. It's only important if it's in the news, and while I do not directly blame Obama for this particular incident, he is certainly a follower of this principle.

I hate politicians.

I'll agree with you re. politicians, but I think this story fails as an illustration. It doesn't appear to me that any politicians, i.e., elected officials, were actually involved in this story. It's all bureaucrats and the media.

If your friend hasn't already contacted one of her elected politicians, she should try. The politician likely won't see it, but as in this story, one of his clerks will forward it to someone within ICE who's high enough in the food chain to unwedge it. Maybe.

The same applies to large private sector companies. If you want results, skip the drones and go to the top. When I noticed a consistent problem with Amazon's ordering system, I first contacted their front line support with predictable (non-)results. I then sent an e-mail directly to Bezos. I have no illusion he actually saw it, but it did go to someone with a functional brain who knew where to send it to fix the problem.

 

[Hacp]

Honestly, this is the type of guy I would want to be sped through the system. He has a college degree, he could be useful.

Could be useful? When we're at 10% unemployment? The only way he could be useful is if he owns his own successful business. Then I fully support getting him papers ASAP. Otherwise, he is just going to be taking American jobs. He should go back to whatever country he came from and have his wife sponsor him like everyone else does. No special treatment for this person please.

 

[Cogman]

Could be useful? When we're at 10% unemployment? The only way he could be useful is if he owns his own successful business. Then I fully support getting him papers ASAP. Otherwise, he is just going to be taking American jobs. He should go back to whatever country he came from and have his wife sponsor him like everyone else does. No special treatment for this person please.

When the vast majority of illegals have next to zero education, I say a college degree is a good thing. I would rather have someone here with a college degree then someone here with no degree in anything.

As for Obama doing anything, I doubt he ever even saw the letter in question. More likely, one of his mail screeners read it, and handed it off to the ICE employees.

 

[Patranus]

His illegal aunt got to stay so why not every other illegal?

 

[Jaskalas]

His illegal aunt got to stay so why not every other illegal?

Because there's a million more every year.

 

[Lemon law]

What we have here is our OP, Hasp, saying that Obama is finally doing something right by deporting or trying to deport one illegal alien.

Sure the wifey may have written to Obama, but are any of us crazy enough to assume that Obama has time to read every single letter? And what probably occurred here is that one of Obama's many minions researched the issues, asked immigration if this guy should stay or not, and after some feedback, they busted the guy when he might have slipped through to cracks longer if the wife had not written.

Or maybe its just time to point out deportation of illegal aliens is up 40% under Obama compared to the GWB administration, if we want to talk about not just one case, but the totality of the immigration problem. But still, we have to say even a 40% increase is still a drop in the Ocean, and we also have to ask why we are not doing more to prevent the US employer from hiring illegal immigrants?

But on P&N, it is so much easier to troll about just one case rather than look at a complex problem honestly.

 

[CanOWorms]

He's married to an American, has an engineering degree, and has no criminal record. He should be welcome to stay.

An American should have the right to have their spouse with them.

 

[JEDIYoda]

What we have here is our OP, Hasp, saying that Obama is finally doing something right by deporting or trying to deport one illegal alien.

Sure the wifey may have written to Obama, but are any of us crazy enough to assume that Obama has time to read every single letter? And what probably occurred here is that one of Obama's many minions researched the issues, asked immigration if this guy should stay or not, and after some feedback, they busted the guy when he might have slipped through to cracks longer if the wife had not written.

Or maybe its just time to point out deportation of illegal aliens is up 40% under Obama compared to the GWB administration, if we want to talk about not just one case, but the totality of the immigration problem. But still, we have to say even a 40% increase is still a drop in the Ocean, and we also have to ask why we are not doing more to prevent the US employer from hiring illegal immigrants?

But on P&N, it is so much easier to troll about just one case rather than look at a complex problem honestly.

Your wrong Lemon Law.....
On P&N people like Hacp are not capable or inteligent enough to look at the complex problem...
Instead HACP`s intellect only allows him to troll incesantly....