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Obama awarded Illinois grants to relative's group

ProfJohn

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Those of us on the right have complained about the media being in the tank for Obama for a long time. (Even Hillary complained about this.)

How is it that a story like this goes completely unreported? The guy has been running for President for a year and a half.

I wonder how many other questionable stories are sitting out there waiting on the media.
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As a state senator, Democrat Barack Obama awarded $75,000 in government grants to a Chicago social service organization led by a rabbi who is also his wife's cousin, records show.

In 1999, Obama arranged for $50,000 for adult literacy and counseling services offered on Chicago's South Side by a group called Blue Gargoyle. A $25,000 grant for the group's youth services followed the next year.

The group's executive director when the grants were awarded was Capers Funnye, a South Side rabbi and Michelle Obama's first cousin once removed.

Funnye (pronounced fun-NAY) said Monday there was nothing improper about the way Blue Gargoyle obtained the grants. Obama did not encourage him to apply for the money, he said, and Funnye denied using family connections to pressure Obama to approve the application.

Obama's presidential campaign said the grants supported valuable services.

"State Sen. Obama joined other legislators in securing funding for a well-established social services agency in his district that provided job training, employment counseling, and alternative education programs to approximately 1,200 Chicago residents each year," campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said.

Funnye noted that Blue Gargoyle got similar grants from another state legislator who had no family ties to the group.

"There was nothing funny, nothing below board," Funnye said. "Everything was done according to whatever guidelines the state of Illinois had in place."

But guidelines were practically nonexistent.

At the time, Illinois legislators were handing out hundreds of millions of dollars in grants. The money was part of a deal that legislative leaders cut with the governor to approve a major public-works program.

Each legislator could award money to favored groups and projects with basically no oversight. The grants were known as "member initiatives" and were similar to the congressional "earmarks" often criticized in Obama's presidential campaign against Republican John McCain.

Obama awarded about $6 million for everything from literacy programs and park improvements to drill team uniforms and jazz appreciation events.

Founded in 1968, Blue Gargoyle provides job training and placement, tutoring, counseling and an alternative high school for dropouts. It's name refers to gargoyles on buildings at the University of Chicago, where the founders started their charitable work, Funnye said.

Funnye said he was executive director from late 1997 until summer 2002. Obama would have been familiar with the organization's work even before his wife's cousin took over, he added.
I hope the media digs into the other $6 million he gave out. I believe we already know that some of it went to campaign donors who then squandered the money.

 
You say Obama has dirty little secrets? I don't believe it. From what I gather from people on this forum he walks on water. Anybody who can do that is at least awesome, right?
 
"Each legislator could award money to favored groups and projects with basically no oversight. The grants were known as "member initiatives" and were similar to the congressional "earmarks" often criticized in Obama's presidential campaign against Republican John McCain."

so pretty much Obama and other State legislators can dole out the money to whatever program they wanted eh?

shrug. Is this a "game changer" for you PJ?

edit: on top of that Obama has the AUDACITY to grant money to charitable foundations that provided job training, employment counseling, and alternative education programs.

what a scumbag.
 
an established community service group that commonly received such grants. is there evidence they spent this to pimp out their beamers?

obama is an amateur - mccain stuck in millions into a defense deal for a land deal for his arizona developer buddies to make tons of money off of real estate deals from ex-government land.

here silly obama is tryin to give 50k to some stupid community activists. what an amateur.

 
Isn't this pretty well known and "ignored" because it's not news? We knew a long time ago that there was a rabbi with family connections to Senator Obama through his wife. Heck, even your own article never goes anywhere with it.

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
I wonder how many other questionable stories are sitting out there waiting on the media.

PROBABLY MILLIONS

Haha. Seriously though, your attempt to simply be seeking the truth is just a wee bit see-through.
 
Originally posted by: Throckmorton
His wife's cousin is a rabbi???

But I thought Obama was Muslim? Well I guess he could be a closet antisemitic. Maybe he was waiting for the right time to attack his cousin? *Or* maybe he wanted someone Jewish to owe money to a Muslim for a "change".
 
Originally posted by: PC Surgeon
From what I gather from people on this forum he walks on water.
True, he is the Obamessiah.

But this story might be a game changer.

Hard hitting stuff ProJo.
 
A game changer? No. But it is just another piece in a puzzle that shows Obama to be nothing more than another politician.

The problem I have is that the media allowed Obama to define himself as Mr. Hope and Change and didn't do enough to look into his background to see if his history matches his rhetoric.
 
Funny how you complain about a fantasy, nonexistent misappropriation of 6 million dollars, when your candidate in reality helped cost taxpayers 120+ billion in one of the largest scandals to hit the Senate (McCain in the Keating 5).
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
A game changer? No. But it is just another piece in a puzzle that shows Obama to be nothing more than another politician.

The problem I have is that the media allowed Obama to define himself as Mr. Hope and Change and didn't do enough to look into his background to see if his history matches his rhetoric.

you are assuming the media didn't "vet" Obama thoroughly.

Allow me to assume that the media saw this connection in Obama's past, recognized that there is no story, and moved on to other things.

Now, if Obama and his relative were in cahoots and pocketed the money then THAT would be a hell of a story.

too bad that isn't the case eh PJ?
 
LoL Prof, I guess the evils of a few million for programs that help people are 10000x worse than bush giving billions of dollars away to his friends and family.

Right. I guess sounds of the world must be muffled to shit when your head is jammed up your ass
 
You guys and the Keating 5... the Senate, which was controlled by Democrats, said that McCain was completely innocent.

Here is what they said about McCain: His "actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him....Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate."
 
It's important to establish whether or not this organisation would have secured the funding without the Obama connection. Considering that the amount was pretty small, multiple government legislators were involved in the approval process and the organisation sounds reputable, I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that this funding would have gone through, with or without Obama.
 
Uhmm, Pro-Jo the media has posted numerous stories about possible bad things about Obama over the last year and a half. You're just so invested in this idea of media persecution that you've ignored them.

Maybe you should take a look at yourself and the movement you so loyally represent on here and ask yourself why you need a myth of persecution in order to validate your worldview. I didn't hear Obama crying that the media was in the tank for Hillary when every news outlet for the better part of a month had Rev. Wright plastered everywhere. I don't see him complaining that the media is in the tank for McCain when they repeat his ridiculous smears out of some idea that they need to present both the lie, and the counterpoint in order to preserve 'balance'. Apparently the media didn't see Obama giving money to a non-profit that frequently received money anyway as a huge story, despite the fact that someone getting the money was related to his wife's, father's, brother's child. (or whatever)

Get over it, grow up. It's high time the 'party of personal responsibility' takes responsibility for their complete, utter failure over the last eight years. Maybe THAT is why your candidate is losing. You guys couldn't possibly have fucked up so badly that nobody even wants to admit being a Republican because the name is so radioactive. People couldn't possibly not want to elect another Republican president after they give the current Republican one a similar approval rating to Nixon immediately before he resigned in disgrace. Nahhhhh... your candidate must be losing because the huge corporations that control the media are all conspiring against you in order to elect someone that will likely place limits on huge corporations.
 
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
A game changer? No. But it is just another piece in a puzzle that shows Obama to be nothing more than another politician.

The problem I have is that the media allowed Obama to define himself as Mr. Hope and Change and didn't do enough to look into his background to see if his history matches his rhetoric.
you are assuming the media didn't "vet" Obama thoroughly.

Allow me to assume that the media saw this connection in Obama's past, recognized that there is no story, and moved on to other things.

Now, if Obama and his relative were in cahoots and pocketed the money then THAT would be a hell of a story.

too bad that isn't the case eh PJ?
The same media that reported that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaska separatist party?

You really think I trust the medias judgement??
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
You guys and the Keating 5... the Senate, which was controlled by Democrats, said that McCain was completely innocent.

Here is what they said about McCain: His "actions were not improper nor attended with gross negligence and did not reach the level of requiring institutional action against him....Senator McCain has violated no law of the United States or specific Rule of the United States Senate."

I'm sorry but if you guys on the right continue to make these guilt by association arguments against Obama then McCain's associations are fair game.

McCain and Keating had become personal friends following their initial contacts in 1981,[11] and McCain was the only one of the five with close social and personal ties to Keating

wiki

and this is exactly why McCain is making a mistake by going down this road with Obama.

 
Desperation is a funny thing, and this stretch is a great example of it.

first cousin once removed means his wife's mother's cousin, which is fairly distant in a geneological sense and not a blood relation to Obama, at all... and adds up to nothing in comparison to the nepotism in political families on both sides of the aisle.

Nor is there any contention that the allocated funds were not used for the intended purpose.

Next up- wingnuts shit themselves to have something to fling...
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn

The same media that reported that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaska separatist party?

You really think I trust the medias judgement??

The same media that has largely ignored the fact that her husband WAS part of that party that wanted to secede from the United States (sometimes considered treason, but certainly sedition), but then ceaselessly repeats Palin's guilt by association attack on Obama/Ayers?

AHHH THE MEDIA IS IN THE TANK FOR THE REPUBLICANS.
 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
A game changer? No. But it is just another piece in a puzzle that shows Obama to be nothing more than another politician.

The problem I have is that the media allowed Obama to define himself as Mr. Hope and Change and didn't do enough to look into his background to see if his history matches his rhetoric.
you are assuming the media didn't "vet" Obama thoroughly.

Allow me to assume that the media saw this connection in Obama's past, recognized that there is no story, and moved on to other things.

Now, if Obama and his relative were in cahoots and pocketed the money then THAT would be a hell of a story.

too bad that isn't the case eh PJ?
The same media that reported that Sarah Palin was a member of the Alaska separatist party?

You really think I trust the medias judgement??
so you think the media didn't vet Obama thoroughly.

I guess that is because you think the media is in the tank for Obama.

And I guess you and your fellow freepers are the only TRUE Americans out to seek the truth and justice against a media machine bent on electing Obama.

good luck with that.

 
Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Those of us on the right have complained about the media being in the tank for Obama for a long time. (Even Hillary complained about this.)

How is it that a story like this goes completely unreported? The guy has been running for President for a year and a half.

I wonder how many other questionable stories are sitting out there waiting on the media.
link
As a state senator, Democrat Barack Obama awarded $75,000 in government grants to a Chicago social service organization led by a rabbi who is also his wife's cousin, records show.

In 1999, Obama arranged for $50,000 for adult literacy and counseling services offered on Chicago's South Side by a group called Blue Gargoyle. A $25,000 grant for the group's youth services followed the next year.

The group's executive director when the grants were awarded was Capers Funnye, a South Side rabbi and Michelle Obama's first cousin once removed.

Funnye (pronounced fun-NAY) said Monday there was nothing improper about the way Blue Gargoyle obtained the grants. Obama did not encourage him to apply for the money, he said, and Funnye denied using family connections to pressure Obama to approve the application.

Obama's presidential campaign said the grants supported valuable services.

"State Sen. Obama joined other legislators in securing funding for a well-established social services agency in his district that provided job training, employment counseling, and alternative education programs to approximately 1,200 Chicago residents each year," campaign spokesman Ben LaBolt said.

Funnye noted that Blue Gargoyle got similar grants from another state legislator who had no family ties to the group.

"There was nothing funny, nothing below board," Funnye said. "Everything was done according to whatever guidelines the state of Illinois had in place."

But guidelines were practically nonexistent.

At the time, Illinois legislators were handing out hundreds of millions of dollars in grants. The money was part of a deal that legislative leaders cut with the governor to approve a major public-works program.

Each legislator could award money to favored groups and projects with basically no oversight. The grants were known as "member initiatives" and were similar to the congressional "earmarks" often criticized in Obama's presidential campaign against Republican John McCain.

Obama awarded about $6 million for everything from literacy programs and park improvements to drill team uniforms and jazz appreciation events.

Founded in 1968, Blue Gargoyle provides job training and placement, tutoring, counseling and an alternative high school for dropouts. It's name refers to gargoyles on buildings at the University of Chicago, where the founders started their charitable work, Funnye said.

Funnye said he was executive director from late 1997 until summer 2002. Obama would have been familiar with the organization's work even before his wife's cousin took over, he added.
I hope the media digs into the other $6 million he gave out. I believe we already know that some of it went to campaign donors who then squandered the money.

Just change your handle to Donjohn to go with your tilting at windmills.
 
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