Obama aunt anguished by separation

[EagleKeeper]

anyone thinking obama DIDNT pull strings for her aunt must be either a retard, on drugs, or both.

Got something to support that? Or just posting ramblings of idiots?

Strings did not have to be pulled.

Anyone in ICE that signed off on a deportation order for the aunt would have their career terminated the next day.

While a Federal judge may have some political cover; doing so will cancel any future upward movement.

For Obama, as a junior senator, it would have been oh well - demonstrate some hardship.
For Obama, as POTUS, sweep everything under the rug.

 

[Freshgeardude]

Got something to support that? Or just posting ramblings of idiots?

Seriously... she is a ripe candidate to deport.

she has NO income, relies on taxpayers money, lives in public housing, and in no way shape or form can she do anything to help this country.

I have seen people deported who do more for this country, even to countries worse than kenya. (my dad is an immigration lawyer)

so to tell me, believe, or defend that obama didnt use his presidential power to keep his deadbeat aunt in the united states would be comical.

 

[Vette73]

Strings did not have to be pulled.

Anyone in ICE that signed off on a deportation order for the aunt would have their career terminated the next day.

While a Federal judge may have some political cover; doing so will cancel any future upward movement.

For Obama, as a junior senator, it would have been oh well - demonstrate some hardship.
For Obama, as POTUS, sweep everything under the rug.

Facepalm. No they would not have. I work Fed HR and what you are saying is pure BS.

 

[Vette73]

Seriously... she is a ripe candidate to deport.

she has NO income, relies on taxpayers money, lives in public housing, and in no way shape or form can she do anything to help this country.

I have seen people deported who do more for this country, even to countries worse than kenya. (my dad is an immigration lawyer)

so to tell me, believe, or defend that obama didnt use his presidential power to keep his deadbeat aunt in the united states would be comical.

So again, do you have anything to support that or just rambling on like other anti-obama's looking for anything?

 

[nageov3t]

So again, do you have anything to support that or just rambling on like other anti-obama's looking for anything?

obviously there's no smoking gun, but it's a highly, highly, highly suspect "coincidence"

 

[woolfe9999]

The only reason her case was reversed 6 years after she was ordered to leave was because of Obama, to think otherwise is foolish. The article is just giving the verdict on her case, Obama pulling strings is a given.

No it's not, unless there is evidence to support it. And note, I'm not saying it's unreasonable to infer a connection, but the connection may not be what you're assuming it is. When the asylum application got reopened, the person making the decision may have thought, gee, I best not deport the President's aunt. That isn't the same thing as the President actively intervening. He may have, but if so, you're going to have to prove it. Honestly, I think an active intervention on his part would have been politically foolish, and Obama is many things but not a fool.

- wolf

 

[EagleKeeper]

Facepalm. No they would not have. I work Fed HR and what you are saying is pure BS.

I stated, their career terminated; not their job.

I have seen GS and EO jobs pulled and pigeon holed because they pissed off someone.

Testify before Congress and say the wrong thing and find that your duties have been reassigned. You still have your "position" but no responsiblities.

Same goes in the military.

Once you get put into a deadend job; your career advancement is over.

 

[EagleKeeper]

No it's not, unless there is evidence to support it. And note, I'm not saying it's unreasonable to infer a connection, but the connection may not be what you're assuming it is. When the asylum application got reopened, the person making the decision may have thought, gee, I best not deport the President's aunt. That isn't the same thing as the President actively intervening. He may have, but if so, you're going to have to prove it. Honestly, I think an active intervention on his part would have been politically foolish, and Obama is many things but not a fool.

- wolf

See my post #26.

Even a blind man can tell when a skunk has gone by.

 

[nageov3t]

No it's not, unless there is evidence to support it. And note, I'm not saying it's unreasonable to infer a connection, but the connection may not be what you're assuming it is. When the asylum application got reopened, the person making the decision may have thought, gee, I best not deport the President's aunt. That isn't the same thing as the President actively intervening. He may have, but if so, you're going to have to prove it. Honestly, I think an active intervention on his part would have been politically foolish, and Obama is many things but not a fool.

- wolf

I can't see Obama taking a political risk to help himself, much less a family member.

but in the simple question of "would this woman have been deported if she wasn't the president's aunt?" my guess is yes.

 

[Narmer]

Considering that there were MAJOR ethnic riots and killings in 2007 in Kenya, and the fact that her nephew was running for president, I seriously doubt ANY immigration judge would have the heart to deport her. IMHO, Obama didn't have to do anything because the circumstances changed dramatically.

 

[EagleKeeper]

See, you are bringing Obama's status into the equation. Political cover

People can get shipped out in 2-3 months when they have no pull.
she was covered by Obama as a US Senator, then as a presidential candidate.

Now; no one is going to jeopardize their career with him as a President. Some special exemption will be issued for her.

 

[Svnla]

Ah, my old thread is alive again.

So tell me, we let people like this lady who does not have any marketable skills or education, does not have a stable job, on public support system, does not have any real valuable contribution to society and on and on...to stay in the US and later become a citizen?

She have been staying in the US illegally for years, been told to get out and did not and now she is ahead in line of million of people want to do it LEGALLY?

The US takes in people like her while million of people with valueable skills and education and money to invest or open businesses have to wait for years and may not get in at all. We sure as a nation is not too smart.

I know for a fact that Australia and New Zealand are very picky of who wants to live in their countries (you have to score enough points to get in and stay there) and I am sure that all of the developed countries are doing the same. No wonder why we have such a huge ILLEGAL immigration problem.

 

[Narmer]

Ah, my old thread is alive again.

So tell me, we let people like this lady who does not have any marketable skills or education, does not have a stable job, on public support system, does not have any real valuable contribution to society and on and on...to stay in the US and later become a citizen?

She have been staying in the US illegally for years, been told to get out and did not and now she is ahead in line of million of people want to do it LEGALLY?

The US takes in people like her while million of people with valueable skills and education and money to invest or open businesses have to wait for years and may not get in at all. We sure as a nation is not too smart.

I know for a fact that Australia and New Zealand are very picky of who wants to live in their countries (you have to score enough points to get in and stay there) and I am sure that all of the developed countries are doing the same. No wonder why we have such a huge ILLEGAL immigration problem.

Special people get special privileges. Nothing special here. This is as old as human history. Were you expecting the law to apply equally to everyone? Don't be silly. This is human nature, human politics. Get over yourself.

 

[dainthomas]

so to tell me, believe, or defend that obama didnt use his presidential power to keep his deadbeat aunt in the united states would be comical.

Who cares if he did? Anyone who was president would do the same thing to keep someone in their family from being shipped off to some hellhole (unless you hated your family or were just a jerk).

Honestly, the fishing thread had more credibility than this troll-fest. Are we really going to have at least three more years of these threads?

 

[EagleKeeper]

Who cares if he did? Anyone who was president would do the same thing to keep someone in their family from being shipped off to some hellhole (unless you hated your family or were just a jerk).

Honestly, the fishing thread had more credibility than this troll-fest. Are we really going to have at least three more years of these threads?

Hopefully only three more years of them.

It points out the hypocrisy of the Obama administration and the lack of openness and change that was promised.

While he himself may not have done anything; the fact that the situation has been able to fester for years indicates incompleteness and/or political pull.

There are legal methods for her to come. Had she been shipped out; she could have then walked back into any US embassy or consulate office on Nov 12, 2008 and gotten processed immediately.

All she is now is a demonstrable leech on the public dole and an constant reminder that what Obama states is not what he delivers.

One more nail that will be used against him if he runs for re-election.

 

[Svnla]

Special people get special privileges. Nothing special here. This is as old as human history. Were you expecting the law to apply equally to everyone? Don't be silly. This is human nature, human politics. Get over yourself.

I am not naive. But what about "Hope and Change"? What about "same old ways of running things in DC won't be tolerated". Oh, I got it, same ole sh1t, different guards. Hope and Change indeed. :thumbsdown: Oh, one more thing, it must be all Bush's fault....right?

CC said it already in the post above mine. When you ran in a platform of change (remember the "transparent administration" pledge?, then we as your bosses (you hear that Congress/President) expect different things/results and not Bush "light".

 

[nobodyknows]

You think the President's aunt is going to be deported?

Really?

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

You would have been smarter to have stayed out of the argument altogether rather then to try and rub everyone's face with your smugness over tyhe situation. She was deported and should have left. I guess now we have to let anyone from Obama's "tribe" that wants come to the US and freeload off of us.

Pretty fucking stupid if you think about it.

 

[nobodyknows]

Who cares if he did? Anyone who was president would do the same thing to keep someone in their family from being shipped off to some hellhole (unless you hated your family or were just a jerk).

Honestly, the fishing thread had more credibility than this troll-fest. Are we really going to have at least three more years of these threads?

So do we let anyone related to Obama into the country? Where do we draw the line?

Oh, nice example of "rule of law". I guess this President doesn't have to sweat the "little" details either.

 

[Narmer]

I am not naive. But what about "Hope and Change"? What about "same old ways of running things in DC won't be tolerated". Oh, I got it, same ole sh1t, different guards. Hope and Change indeed. :thumbsdown: Oh, one more thing, it must be all Bush's fault....right?

CC said it already in the post above mine. When you ran in a platform of change (remember the "transparent administration" pledge?, then we as your bosses (you hear that Congress/President) expect different things/results and not Bush "light".

Unless you're implying that Obama should have personally intervened and had his aunt deported, this changes nothing. Like I said earlier, no immigration judge in his right mind would've deported her considering the violence in Kenya and her relation to the POTUS. This isn't really difficult to understand. No matter how much you may hate it, she was a special case and that is why she got special treatment, not necessarily from the POTUS directly.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Looks like Obama pulled strings for his aunt.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20100517/pl_afp/uspoliticsimmigrationobamafamily_20100517194854

More on freeloader.

http://news.bostonherald.com/news/o...auntie_still_freeloading/srvc=home&position=1

You are as mis-informed as they come....you need to bone up on your skills of comprehension. also quit telling lies....there is noway you can back up anything you say about Obama pulling strings...possibly the only string Obama might be pulling is your g string..lol

 

[JEDIYoda]

Facepalm. No they would not have. I work Fed HR and what you are saying is pure BS.

Actually I have worked Fed HR and Common Courtesy is right on the money!!

You must have been the janitor Marlin1975...lol

 

[dainthomas]

Hopefully only three more years of them.

It points out the hypocrisy of the Obama administration and the lack of openness and change that was promised.

While he himself may not have done anything; the fact that the situation has been able to fester for years indicates incompleteness and/or political pull.

There are legal methods for her to come. Had she been shipped out; she could have then walked back into any US embassy or consulate office on Nov 12, 2008 and gotten processed immediately.

All she is now is a demonstrable leech on the public dole and an constant reminder that what Obama states is not what he delivers.

One more nail that will be used against him if he runs for re-election.

Only by the current equivalents of the people who used to walk around with "Bush Kills!" and "9/11 was an inside job!" signs. How does it feel to be in that kind of company?

There are many great reasons you wouldn't want to send a sitting president's destitute aunt back to a place like Kenya (besides him being a fascist dictator). If you can't see that, then I guess there's no hope.

 

[jpeyton]

One more nail that will be used against him if he runs for re-election.

The GOP can chant "Deport, baby, deport!" on their way to a new historical low percentage of the Latino vote.

Actually this new Arizona law is a godsend for the Democratic Latino vote in 2010. Latinos are feeling singled out, and understand that registering and voting is their only way of fighting back.

 

[werepossum]

Strings did not have to be pulled.

Anyone in ICE that signed off on a deportation order for the aunt would have their career terminated the next day.

While a Federal judge may have some political cover; doing so will cancel any future upward movement.

For Obama, as a junior senator, it would have been oh well - demonstrate some hardship.
For Obama, as POTUS, sweep everything under the rug.

Exactly right - although I've seen no evidence that Obama gives a damn about any of his extended family, higher-ups would certainly have punished anyone who so embarrassed them. You'd still have a job (plus another vacation day - formerly your job evaluation day) but your career there, any chances of advancement or of ever doing anything meaningful, would be dead.

Seriously... she is a ripe candidate to deport.

she has NO income, relies on taxpayers money, lives in public housing, and in no way shape or form can she do anything to help this country.

I have seen people deported who do more for this country, even to countries worse than kenya. (my dad is an immigration lawyer)

so to tell me, believe, or defend that obama didnt use his presidential power to keep his deadbeat aunt in the united states would be comical.

I seriously doubt he would, but I'm sure he wouldn't have to. It's like Congressman G.H.W. Bush pulling strings to get G.W. Bush into the Air National Guard, just not necessary. Nobody wants to send a Congressman's drunken son into a war zone, nobody wants to deport a sitting president's destitute aunt back to Kenya.

 

[nobodyknows]

The GOP can chant "Deport, baby, deport!" on their way to a new historical low percentage of the Latino vote.

Actually this new Arizona law is a godsend for the Democratic Latino vote in 2010. Latinos are feeling singled out, and understand that registering and voting is their only way of fighting back.

So Charlie Manson was right, a race war IS on the horizon?