Obama already cannonized? Anyone sick of the hoo-ha surrounding him yet?

[retrospooty]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil

Wait.. you are criticizing Bush for deficits.. yet Obama has proposed one 3 times what Bush's highest was. And Bush's highest were in the past 2 years which DEMOCRATS controlled congress. What is the 10x the leadership Bush has shown as well? He has said 'change' a trillion times and made a ton of campaign promises he can't actually keep? He has written a couple books about his life? He has voted present? He's put a bunch of Clinton people back into Washington? Where's the leadership exactly?

Obama promised he would fix this shit. No excuses.. stop making them for him. If Obama is as brilliant as you seem to think he is, 8 years is a LIFETIME.

yes I am... Bush got us here, and now we have to take drastic steps to get us out.

Its as if Bush gave us the cancer, and Obama must make the tough descision to use chemotherapy to cure it... Now here is your narrow minded ass, blaming Obama for the Chemo, giving Bush, the cause of the cancer a pass. You got balls man... and no perspective.

As for fixing it... You wait. We see where we are now, and where this rescession is headed. Bookmark it your mind and think back after 8 years passes., Yes, we will be better off, far better. This is just an economic situation that will have to get worse before it gets better. In the long run it will get better. No-one is giving Obama a pass, but lets be realistic. He is not superman, he just needs to be what bush was not... a president.

Look, obviously, you hate Obama, and will poo poo on anything and everything he does. But if you cant at least see what a horrible job bush did and see the mess he got us in you are seriously a lost cause. Can you at least admit Bush fuggered up badly? Obama may not be the best person in the world to fix it, but who is? I mean, what would you have had happen, we elect McCain? A man who admittedly knows very little about the economy? I dont think Obama is the second coming, or superman but guess what? We elected him and he is our president. At least give him the benefit of the doubt until he actually gets in office and you see the job he does. I gave it to Bush and was behind him fully right up until he marched us into Iraq. then the downward spiral started. the vast majority of the country sees that now. Why cant you?

 

[Geekbabe]

Things are dark and getting darker as our economy continues to tank and the pile of pink slips
continue to mount. People need hope in uncertain times and for now hope comes in the form of a youthful,energized president who's possibly the most popular president since Kennedy.

He faces a real mess, he's clearly bright, let us just all hope that he has the wisdom and internal fortitude to bring us together enough to start digging us all out of the mess we are in.

Personally, I'm delighted to see so many young, excited faces in Washington, so much energy
so much renewed interest in our political process. I think it's wonderful.

 

[WackyDan]

I voted for McCain. As a conservative, I didn't have many choices.

That said, while I tire of the Obamathon as it is called, I'm not blind to the fact that MLK day, and the inauguration of America's first Black president being so close together is beyond significant. We should celebrate the history of this as it unfolds before us.

I don't have high hopes for Obama as I didn't vote for him. If he is more centrist than what is predicted, he will earn my respect.

I know everyone is just dieing to hear yet another perfectly scripted and delivered Obama speech. Somehow that will probably be considered historical. Somewhat funny when you consider the legion of writers that support a campaign, as well presidency. I would suggest that the truly unscripted moments in life are more historical and special. Like the Pilot of a US Airways flight that in a few unscripted minutes performs his job flawlessly, making decisions that he trained every day of his career for, and in turn prevents the loss of 155 lives. That is what we should spend more time celebrating.... the regular people.

 

[WackyDan]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Things are dark and getting darker as our economy continues to tank and the pile of pink slips
continue to mount. People need hope in uncertain times and for now hope comes in the form of a youthful,energized president who's possibly the most popular president since Kennedy.

He faces a real mess, he's clearly bright, let us just all hope that he has the wisdom and internal fortitude to bring us together enough to start digging us all out of the mess we are in.

Personally, I'm delighted to see so many young, excited faces in Washington, so much energy
so much renewed interest in our political process. I think it's wonderful.

Too bad the political process is so poisoned. These young people you mention never stand a chance to be in office unless they went to Yale, Harvard, etc - and are well connected. The level of corruption and power mongering in Washington is exactly what is slowly destroying our republic.

 

[Geekbabe]

Originally posted by: WackyDan

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Things are dark and getting darker as our economy continues to tank and the pile of pink slips
continue to mount. People need hope in uncertain times and for now hope comes in the form of a youthful,energized president who's possibly the most popular president since Kennedy.

He faces a real mess, he's clearly bright, let us just all hope that he has the wisdom and internal fortitude to bring us together enough to start digging us all out of the mess we are in.

Personally, I'm delighted to see so many young, excited faces in Washington, so much energy
so much renewed interest in our political process. I think it's wonderful.

Too bad the political process is so poisoned. These young people you mention never stand a chance to be in office unless they went to Yale, Harvard, etc - and are well connected. The level of corruption and power mongering in Washington is exactly what is slowly destroying our republic.

A young man who was largely raised by his single mother in modest circumstances
was able to get himself to Harvard and able to rise to the position of President Elect
of the United States. Proof positive IMHO that there is hope.

It's wonderful to see people of all types now discussing political affairs, people who'd
long ago disengaged themselves from the process now trying to get themselves current
on the problems facing our nation, stepping up and letting their voices be heard.

Hope is a wonderful thing,with it you can move mountains. If all Obama does is to give us
enough hope that we can reunite as a people and begin the unpleasant process of digging
ourselves out of the messes we're in at home and abroad,he'll have worked magic IMHO.

 

[bobcpg]

Originally posted by: Harvey

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper

Is it just me, or is anyone else getting sick of all the celebratory hoo-ha surrounding Obama as we approach the inauguration?

It's you. Get over yourself and appreciate the history we're making. It's only a couple of hundred years late.

Care to explain why its "a couple of hundred years late"?

 

[bobcpg]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Most people are glad that today is the last time theyll have to pay their mortgage or fuel their car

Oh My God that is funny and so true! Thank you for making my day, I knew there was something funny to read on the internet today other than all this Obamasiah crap.

 

[WackyDan]

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: WackyDan

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Things are dark and getting darker as our economy continues to tank and the pile of pink slips
continue to mount. People need hope in uncertain times and for now hope comes in the form of a youthful,energized president who's possibly the most popular president since Kennedy.

He faces a real mess, he's clearly bright, let us just all hope that he has the wisdom and internal fortitude to bring us together enough to start digging us all out of the mess we are in.

Personally, I'm delighted to see so many young, excited faces in Washington, so much energy
so much renewed interest in our political process. I think it's wonderful.

Too bad the political process is so poisoned. These young people you mention never stand a chance to be in office unless they went to Yale, Harvard, etc - and are well connected. The level of corruption and power mongering in Washington is exactly what is slowly destroying our republic.

A young man who was largely raised by his single mother in modest circumstances
was able to get himself to Harvard and able to rise to the position of President Elect
of the United States. Proof positive IMHO that there is hope.

It's wonderful to see people of all types now discussing political affairs, people who'd
long ago disengaged themselves from the process now trying to get themselves current
on the problems facing our nation, stepping up and letting their voices be heard.

Hope is a wonderful thing,with it you can move mountains. If all Obama does is to give us
enough hope that we can reunite as a people and begin the unpleasant process of digging
ourselves out of the messes we're in at home and abroad,he'll have worked magic IMHO.

..and he groomed himself as well was groomed by others for public office very early on. My point stands.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: WackyDan

Originally posted by: Geekbabe

Originally posted by: WackyDan

Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Things are dark and getting darker as our economy continues to tank and the pile of pink slips
continue to mount. People need hope in uncertain times and for now hope comes in the form of a youthful,energized president who's possibly the most popular president since Kennedy.

He faces a real mess, he's clearly bright, let us just all hope that he has the wisdom and internal fortitude to bring us together enough to start digging us all out of the mess we are in.

Personally, I'm delighted to see so many young, excited faces in Washington, so much energy
so much renewed interest in our political process. I think it's wonderful.

Too bad the political process is so poisoned. These young people you mention never stand a chance to be in office unless they went to Yale, Harvard, etc - and are well connected. The level of corruption and power mongering in Washington is exactly what is slowly destroying our republic.

A young man who was largely raised by his single mother in modest circumstances
was able to get himself to Harvard and able to rise to the position of President Elect
of the United States. Proof positive IMHO that there is hope.

It's wonderful to see people of all types now discussing political affairs, people who'd
long ago disengaged themselves from the process now trying to get themselves current
on the problems facing our nation, stepping up and letting their voices be heard.

Hope is a wonderful thing,with it you can move mountains. If all Obama does is to give us
enough hope that we can reunite as a people and begin the unpleasant process of digging
ourselves out of the messes we're in at home and abroad,he'll have worked magic IMHO.

..and he groomed himself as well was groomed by others for public office very early on. My point stands.

How does your point stand? He was a self made man, went to Harvard on his own merit, and any connections he made didn't come from the largess of anyone else, they came from his own success. Do you not like that in this case the political process recognized talent and recruited it? Should we elect people from San Diego State University just so we can have a moron in charge for a change?

Going to Harvard is not a bad thing, it is a good thing. It could be viewed as a negative if someone was placed into there through some oligarchical palm greasing like Bush was at Yale, but in Obama's case it wasn't. He got in because he was the best, and while he was there he proved it.

 

[Tab]

I think it's just a slow news day... Meh...

 

[Fear No Evil]

I'm wondering how women feel. If this is historical for black people, it also seems historical that we have not yet had a woman President and I doubt we will for a long time.

 

[HomerJS]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
Is it just me, or is anyone else getting sick of all the celebratory hoo-ha surrounding Obama as we approach the inauguration? At least that's the impression I get from listening to NPR. I voted for Obama, but I don't regard him as a divine savior. What I find very bothersome is that it almost seems as though many Americans are giving him a blank check instead of keeping a skeptical eye on him, which we should do for all politicians.

Obama lovers are going to be in for a huge letdown when they finally realize that he's just a normal politician and that he really won't fix our problems and might even make things a little worse.

Untill you name one person who said Obama is a divine savior I'll say I'm sick of trolls with straw man posts.

Maybe people are just as excited and hopeful Bush is out of office.

 

[dwell]

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I'm wondering how women feel. If this is historical for black people, it also seems historical that we have not yet had a woman President and I doubt we will for a long time.

Or Italian, or Jewish, or Hispanic, or Asian, or gay etc. For some reason, blacks civil rights victories are the only ones that seem to matter.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: HomerJS

Untill you name one person who said Obama is a divine savior I'll say I'm sick of trolls with straw man posts.

Maybe people are just as excited and hopeful Bush is out of office.

It seems to me like some people are just really angry that others genuinely like the person they elected. They are so used to the normal script that when someone is happy about their candidate winning they confuse it with some sort of idol worship. They're just broken when it comes to this sort of thing, don't pay them any mind.

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: Chris

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I'm wondering how women feel. If this is historical for black people, it also seems historical that we have not yet had a woman President and I doubt we will for a long time.

Or Italian, or Jewish, or Hispanic, or Asian, or gay etc. For some reason, blacks civil rights victories are the only ones that seem to matter.

Gee, I have no idea why black civil rights victories might be viewed as more significant than other ethnic groups'. I guess I missed the centuries of enslavement of the Italians, or the time they turned the dogs and fire hoses on the Asian people marching peacefully.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Chris

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I'm wondering how women feel. If this is historical for black people, it also seems historical that we have not yet had a woman President and I doubt we will for a long time.

Or Italian, or Jewish, or Hispanic, or Asian, or gay etc. For some reason, blacks civil rights victories are the only ones that seem to matter.

Gee, I have no idea why black civil rights victories might be viewed as more significant than other ethnic groups'. I guess I missed the centuries of enslavement of the Italians, or the time they turned the dogs and fire hoses on the Asian people marching peacefully.

Yeah, I hear the Japanese WANTED to be put in camps during WW2. :roll:

 

[fskimospy]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: eskimospy

Originally posted by: Chris

Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
I'm wondering how women feel. If this is historical for black people, it also seems historical that we have not yet had a woman President and I doubt we will for a long time.

Or Italian, or Jewish, or Hispanic, or Asian, or gay etc. For some reason, blacks civil rights victories are the only ones that seem to matter.

Gee, I have no idea why black civil rights victories might be viewed as more significant than other ethnic groups'. I guess I missed the centuries of enslavement of the Italians, or the time they turned the dogs and fire hoses on the Asian people marching peacefully.

Yeah, I hear the Japanese WANTED to be put in camps during WW2. :roll:

While a few years of internment is certainly shitty, I'm going to call you an idiot for attempting to equate it with centuries of enslavement.

 

[dwell]

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Gee, I have no idea why black civil rights victories might be viewed as more significant than other ethnic groups'. I guess I missed the centuries of enslavement of the Italians, or the time they turned the dogs and fire hoses on the Asian people marching peacefully.

Yeah, because we nuked Africa and six-million blacks were exterminated 60 years ago :roll: Slavery ended 150 years ago in this country.

 

[Xavier434]

Confidence, excitement, and happiness is a very good thing that this country needs right now so don't knock it. Obama is a president to everyone, but to others he is also a very strong symbol.

The bottom line is that all of the positive energy that people are displaying is nothing but a good thing. There is an old saying that goes with this one, "Choose your battles wisely."

 

[Imported]

Originally posted by: MovingTarget
Sick of it? No, but only because I haven't been paying attention. Are people a little too excited? Probably. I for one will bypass the hype and keep a watchful eye on what he DOES as opposed to what he says. Hopefully he will do a good job. One thing is for sure though...the hype surrounding him can sell a lot of useless crap!

What he said. I just haven't been paying it any attention. Just have to hope he does his job well.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Originally posted by: Xavier434
Confidence, excitement, and happiness is a very good thing that this country needs right now so don't knock it. Obama is a president to everyone, but to others he is also a very strong symbol.

The bottom line is that all of the positive energy that people are displaying is nothing but a good thing. There is an old saying that goes with this one, "Choose your battles wisely."

Uhh... one could also say that this supposed "positive energy" is just a display of naivety. And be careful with the "president to everyone" business - remember how your kind have stated for 8 years that Bush wasn't your President. I hope people don't do that to BHO and I know I won't but just be careful throwing it around.

 

[Fingolfin269]

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Genx87

Originally posted by: Turin39789

Originally posted by: Slew Foot
Most people are glad that today is the last time theyll have to pay their mortgage or fuel their car

THAT IS SO HILARIOUS AND INSIGHTFUL!!! DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE FROM THE EMAILS MY MOTHER FORWARDS?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bg98BvqUvCc

SCRIPT: "It was the most memorable time of my life. It was a touching moment because I never thought this day would ever happen. I won't have to worry about putting gas in my car. I won't have to worry about paying my mortgage. You know, if I help him, he's gonna help me."

We've all seen that, thats what makes it a great internet forward for my mother. It does not make it hilarious or insightful or clever or true.

Ha, you really didn't find it hilarious? Really?

 

[Xavier434]

Originally posted by: CADsortaGUY

Originally posted by: Xavier434
Confidence, excitement, and happiness is a very good thing that this country needs right now so don't knock it. Obama is a president to everyone, but to others he is also a very strong symbol.

The bottom line is that all of the positive energy that people are displaying is nothing but a good thing. There is an old saying that goes with this one, "Choose your battles wisely."

Uhh... one could also say that this supposed "positive energy" is just a display of naivety. And be careful with the "president to everyone" business - remember how your kind have stated for 8 years that Bush wasn't your President. I hope people don't do that to BHO and I know I won't but just be careful throwing it around.

Well, an opinion is an opinion, but understand that regardless of whether or not the cynics are right about their theory regarding the positive energy there is a fact that remains. People that feel that way have a greater tendency to work harder and try to do the right thing for their lives and the lives of others. That is something that has little to do with politics and it is something that America needs as much as it can get right now.

When it comes to "my kind"...and I don't even really know what that is but I guess you do...I could care less. I didn't say that and there are many Obama supporters who didn't say it either.

 

[Budmantom]

Originally posted by: WhipperSnapper
Is it just me, or is anyone else getting sick of all the celebratory hoo-ha surrounding Obama as we approach the inauguration? At least that's the impression I get from listening to NPR. I voted for Obama, but I don't regard him as a divine savior. What I find very bothersome is that it almost seems as though many Americans are giving him a blank check instead of keeping a skeptical eye on him, which we should do for all politicians.

Obama lovers are going to be in for a huge letdown when they finally realize that he's just a normal politician and that he really won't fix our problems and might even make things a little worse.

He has two accomplishments and they are that he is black and the president and that's good enough for most.

 

[ayabe]

Originally posted by: Chris

Originally posted by: eskimospy
Gee, I have no idea why black civil rights victories might be viewed as more significant than other ethnic groups'. I guess I missed the centuries of enslavement of the Italians, or the time they turned the dogs and fire hoses on the Asian people marching peacefully.

Yeah, because we nuked Africa and six-million blacks were exterminated 60 years ago :roll: Slavery ended 150 years ago in this country.

Get the fuck over yourself, that was a WAR and doesn't compare in any way to the treatment of blacks in this country over hundreds of years.

You people and you're stunning ignorance is a real treat.