Obama Admin Endorses Christian Prayers

[OutHouse]

Yeah, those poor Christians and their persecution......

yea Egyptian christians are getting fucked.

 

[OutHouse]

Christianity has too much influence on the government and needs to be shut down.

can you provide examples of such influence?

 

[soulcougher73]

Fuck no. Absolutely NO religion anywhere near government. Ever. I'd like to see it made a Class A felony in fact. While we're at it fix the pledge, fix our money, fix our motto, etc.

+1

 

[soulcougher73]

Get Christianity out of the government BUT ALL OTHER RELIGIONS AS WELL INCLUDING ISLAM.

Can you read? He did say "NO religion". My guess is that includes them ALL.

 

[OutHouse]

But seeing as you're in Canada,

???

Incorruptible is a canuck?

 

[soulcougher73]

He isn't a Christian but most likely an atheist. He has killed so many people with his drones there is no way he could be Christian.

Ill be sure to call Bush tonight and let him know you have declared he is not christian.

 

[OutHouse]

He isn't a Christian but most likely an atheist. He has killed so many people with his drones there is no way he could be Christian.

thats full on retard right there.

 

[Jeff7]

And I support that right 100% but my problem is the government treats certain religions better than others and this is wrong. Treat all religions the same.

Agreed. Kick Christianity out of government offices, as well as any other religion.


Though I'm sure you didn't mean it that way.

Yes you mentioned other religions but you specifically mentioned Christianity and didn't name the other religions. Supporters of the MB work with the obama administration.

Get Christianity out of the government BUT ALL OTHER RELIGIONS AS WELL INCLUDING ISLAM.

I'm just posting this quote string because it amuses me.

 

[thraashman]

???

Incorruptible is a canuck?

I don't know what his nationality and citizenship is, but it was brought up by an admin in another thread that he posts from a Canadian IP and he said he is currently in Canada.

 

[Darwin333]

What religion do the majority of Americans belong to? How can you be against this especially when you have an avatar like that?

The first amendment exists exactly for what you just said. Its not to protect YOU christians it is to protect the rest of us FROM you christians. Very rarely does the "majority" need protecting nor the popular, it is the unpopular and the non-majority that needs protecting from said majority. I am so very sorry that you are butthurt from your pastor err I mean the so called war on Christians and I am very sorry that you dislike the Constitution so much, at least when it prevents you from pushing YOUR beliefs onto other people, you seem to love to try to use it to shut down other peoples beliefs, but the rest of us are just fine with it.

Until such time that a Constitutional amendment is passed we will not, nor have we ever been since the Constitution was ratified, a Christian nation. Deal with it. Doesn't matter what percentage of the US is Christian or not, hell we could be 100% Christian and we still wouldn't be a Christian nation due to that pesky first amendment that you love to hate and hate to love, except against Muslims of course.

You would be going batshit crazy right now if this was a predominately Muslim town with a Muslim city council who was just allowed to say their Muslim prayer before their meetings.

 

[Darwin333]

can you provide examples of such influence?

Lol, are you serious?

Sigh, this is just to damn easy but ok I'll bite, gay marriage. Such influence absolutely without a shadow of a doubt 100% proven, done deal. I am sure you can find a very few anecdotal story about some non Christian or even a non-religious person who completely opposes gay marriage but by and large its the Christians that outright oppose it because it goes against the bible and "traditional marriage".

Also, evolution and the classrooms which is by far the greatest threat and tragedy that religion has done to the US in my lifetime, imho of course. We have very good record of what happens when religion gets put into and in front of science teachings, it ain't pretty in the least. For exhibit A please take a look at every Muslim country in the world. Yeah, thats what went wrong with them and we can even provide the year and the main asshole who sent them from the intellectual center of the entire world to what they are today.

I assume that should be enough to satisfy your request, thanks for playing though.

 

[Darwin333]

He isn't a Christian but most likely an atheist. He has killed so many people with his drones there is no way he could be Christian.

Why the fuck would you call him an atheist with absolutely zero evidence to back it up? That isn't very Christian of you.

Judge not lest ye be judged and all that bullshit. Besides, I though he was a Muslim communist or some shit like that, atheist is a pretty damn big jump from there.

 

[Darwin333]

Get Christianity out of the government BUT ALL OTHER RELIGIONS AS WELL INCLUDING ISLAM.

So why in the name of jesus christ on a fucking stick are you posting this thread saying that the President of the United States finally made the right choice by allowing Christianity in government???

obama had an Eid/Ramadan dinner and I can't remember you complaining(feel free to correct me if I am wrong).

Who the fuck are you to say what any other man should or should not have for dinner? You couldn't be more anti-freedom if you are willing to chastise a man simply because he ate a meal. I truly hope what has been posted in this thread is true and that you are in fact Canadian because it makes me sick to think that we have US citizens that are as against freedom as you are. I look forward to your 5 word reply that addressees nothing I said.

 

[Incorruptible]

Why the fuck would you call him an atheist with absolutely zero evidence to back it up? That isn't very Christian of you.

Judge not lest ye be judged and all that bullshit. Besides, I though he was a Muslim communist or some shit like that, atheist is a pretty damn big jump from there.

Based on some of his actions like saying the US isn't a Christian country, NASA should make Muslims feel good.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...-Nasa-must-try-to-make-Muslims-feel-good.html

Supporting and funding the MB which is anti-Christian.

Oh and don't forget his drone war in Pakistan and Yemen which has killed many innocent children. Not very Christ like.

http://www.policymic.com/articles/2...killed-by-drone-strikes-in-pakistan-and-yemen

One of the top atheists believes that obama is an atheist. Richard Dawkins who is very respected among atheists.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/201...ly-is-an-atheist-lincoln-kennedy-clinton-too/

Atheists aren't exactly a large population in the US so it makes sense that he would hide this.

I have never claimed obama is Muslim and you know this.

So why in the name of jesus christ on a fucking stick are you posting this thread saying that the President of the United States finally made the right choice by allowing Christianity in government???



Who the fuck are you to say what any other man should or should not have for dinner? You couldn't be more anti-freedom if you are willing to chastise a man simply because he ate a meal. I truly hope what has been posted in this thread is true and that you are in fact Canadian because it makes me sick to think that we have US citizens that are as against freedom as you are. I look forward to your 5 word reply that addressees nothing I said.

I would prefer the US government not endorse any religion BUT if it's going to endorse a religion then make it Christianity. I don't know of any Christians who want to cut off the hands of thieves or require women to cover up or 4 men required as witnesses for a woman raped.Do you know many Christians who want the death penalty for attacking Jesus?


Now compare that to Sharia law which would take away all our freedom.

I have seen numerous people whine about the power of Christians within the government yet these same people don't say the same thing about the other religions.

I called him out because he had a special dinner at the WH funded by the taxpayer for Eid, Why aren't you complaining about the separation of Church and State? I am one of the most pro-freedom posters on here unlike you. Where are your posts calling out obama for being anti-freedom? Lets see them. I criticized him and many others for attacking freedom.

Freedom isn't just religious freedom but also freedom of speech which I support, civil rights, economic freedom and gun rights. All of which I support on here.

 

[Throckmorton]

In the army Christians are told to put away their Bibles and hide their Christianity yet the terrorist gets to grow his Jihadist beard. Why the double standards?

Not true at all. Christianity is big in the military. They pray before missions etc. If you refuse, you are ostracized.

 

[LightPattern]

And I'm sure pagan services would be just fine with you as well?

My initial thought was that I'd be perfectly fine with that.. Christian, pagan, Muslim, atheist, whatever. Upon further reflection though I'd want it to be limited to meetings at some subsection of government: towns, counties, states.
Freedom of religion and freedom of association mean you can legally have religious communities - composed of people - who pray when they meet if they wish.

At the national level though, I'd only find vague recognition of G-d generally (like on our currency) in prayer or the lack of prayer at that level acceptable. As opposed to recognizing a particular religion which may not represent the majority of those represented.

Our nation is a union of different groups with different beliefs. At the national level that union explicitly represents us ALL.

 

[justoh]

Not true at all. Christianity is big in the military. They pray before missions etc. If you refuse, you are ostracized.

They also have official chaplains in all branches, who provide religious services and hold workshops. Govt subsidized brain washing. They claim it's for their moral well being, but I can't think of many things more immoral than christianity

 

[Incorruptible]

They also have official chaplains in all branches, who provide religious services and hold workshops. Govt subsidized brain washing. They claim it's for their moral well being, but I can't think of many things more immoral than christianity

Why don't you say that about the other religions?

 

[justoh]

Why don't you say that about the other religions?

because it's an obvious point, and because the govt isn't sponsoring other religions using tax payers money?

why don't you support the constitution?

 

[Incorruptible]

because it's an obvious point, and because the govt isn't sponsoring other religions using tax payers money?

why don't you support the constitution?

Actually there are supporters of the MB working in the obama admin and the Christian who was jailed for making a video about Islam.

 

[Jeff7]

Why don't you say that about the other religions?

The title of the thread does seem to focus on Christian things.
I'll have to check on that to see who wrote that title...

We should probably avoid doing anything weird, like focusing on the topic of the first post in the thread.

can you provide examples of such [Christian] influence?

Lol, are you serious?

Sigh, this is just to damn easy but ok I'll bite, gay marriage. Such influence absolutely without a shadow of a doubt 100% proven, done deal. I am sure you can find a very few anecdotal story about some non Christian or even a non-religious person who completely opposes gay marriage but by and large its the Christians that outright oppose it because it goes against the bible and "traditional marriage".

Also, evolution and the classrooms which is by far the greatest threat and tragedy that religion has done to the US in my lifetime, imho of course.

We have God printed on our money now. The Pledge of Allegiance now includes "God" in it. We have people trying to push prayer into school. (Christian prayers, so that makes it ok. :awe Presidents end speeches with "God Bless America" like the world will end if they forget it. The abortion debate, and legislation, is largely influenced by ideas like "divinely-ordained" life, or "miracles," or "souls." Religious organizations can get tax-exempt status. Oaths in courts are traditionally sworn on a Bible. Courts try to post Christian Commandments on their grounds. Some public offices are outright off-limits to atheists, per the letter of the law. Women didn't have many rights until long after the Bill of Rights was ratified, something readily endorsed by Christianity. (Any usage of the various forms of the word "equal" or "all" in those documents was followed by an enormous asterisk.)

Other than that, absolutely no influence.

We have very good record of what happens when religion gets put into and in front of science teachings, it ain't pretty in the least. For exhibit A please take a look at every Muslim country in the world. Yeah, thats what went wrong with them and we can even provide the year and the main asshole who sent them from the intellectual center of the entire world to what they are today.

I assume that should be enough to satisfy your request, thanks for playing though.

World History in college...that's when I first learned about the old Middle East. It's just tragic.
They gathered up as much knowledge as they could. While Europe shunned any "anti-Christian" knowledge, the Mideast acquired it without regard to anything like that. It was still seen as useful, regardless of the religion of those who generated it.
Then it's as if it all simply stopped. Completely. :\