NYTimes: Al-Qaeda not behind Bengahzi attacks (video in part to blame)

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Jhhnn

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What a surprise you support obama and don't believe in free speech.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/09/27/world/california-anti-islam-filmmaker/

You're so lame. He was arrested for charges stemming from offenses that occurred before the film was released- probation violation for bank fraud. He's used 17 aliases according to court records & was ordered to 5 years probation & to pay $794,000 restitution after a year in Lompoc.

This is your Liberal Oppression Poster Boy? Really?
 
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You're so lame. He was arrested for charges stemming from offenses that occurred before the film was released- probation violation for bank fraud. He's used 17 aliases according to court records & was ordered to 5 years probation & to pay $794,000 restitution after a year in Lompoc.

This is your Liberal Oppression Poster Boy? Really?

They had him arrested because he made the video. If he made a video about Christians he wouldn't have been arrested.

Stop pandering to radical Islam.
 

Jhhnn

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They had him arrested because he made the video. If he made a video about Christians he wouldn't have been arrested.

Stop pandering to radical Islam.

Oh, so he's innocent of all that probation violation stuff? Of the bank fraud? Was he as pure as the driven snow going into this? Is it all just a frame-up?
 

boomerang

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What difference at this point, does it make? A country that considers an individual with the track record of Hillary Clinton as a presidential contender is a country that has completely lost its moral compass. These are the types that seek the highest position in the land and too many consider her to be grade A prime. We're living through a failed experiment right now. Why continue the misery?
 

michal1980

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Oh, so he's innocent of all that probation violation stuff? Of the bank fraud? Was he as pure as the driven snow going into this? Is it all just a frame-up?

no he's not innocent. But your completely stupid if you ignore the fact he was arrested because of the video Obama blamed the death of our ambassador on.

Funny that the guy that made the video is serving more time then the people that actually killed the guy.
 

Jhhnn

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no he's not innocent. But your completely stupid if you ignore the fact he was arrested because of the video Obama blamed the death of our ambassador on.

Funny that the guy that made the video is serving more time then the people that actually killed the guy.

Could have been that way, and some other ways, too. It doesn't matter. Scammers always draw official attention to themselves, one way or another. If Nakoula goes down, it won't be for making the video but for other shit he's pulled.
 

UberNeuman

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What difference at this point, does it make? A country that considers an individual with the track record of Hillary Clinton as a presidential contender is a country that has completely lost its moral compass. These are the types that seek the highest position in the land and too many consider her to be grade A prime. We're living through a failed experiment right now. Why continue the misery?

What misery? For you, yes... Just witnessing you and your ilks heads imploding is a grand joy for me...

\seek solace in your moronic blogs, Benghazi-man.....
 
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compuwiz1

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The only experiment that has failed is Republicanism.

Tell that to Detroit and the entire state of California. You have it all wrong. Liberalism is a failed experiment. You're kind just won't see the truth. Democrats ruin everything they touch. The most recent example of that is the Obamacare train wreck. Fail! Want a great congress again......vote properly.
 

UberNeuman

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Tell that to Detroit and the entire state of California. You have it all wrong. Liberalism is a failed experiment. You're kind just won't see the truth. Democrats ruin everything they touch. The most recent example of that is the Obamacare train wreck. Fail! Want a great congress again......vote properly.

You mean "Romneycare"? The Republican Heritage Foundation based Health Care Plan?
 

theeedude

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Tell that to Detroit and the entire state of California. You have it all wrong. Liberalism is a failed experiment. You're kind just won't see the truth. Democrats ruin everything they touch. The most recent example of that is the Obamacare train wreck. Fail! Want a great congress again......vote properly.

What about California? Doing well after the mess Arnold left us.
 

compuwiz1

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What about California? Doing well after the mess Arnold left us.


Here you go, you stupid little shit...........

Hardly doing well at all....but, hey, whatever floats your loonie little boat.

There are countless reasons California remains mired in unsustainable debt and high unemployment; however, there is one common root cause for these issues: a perpetual Democrat majority.
Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/democrat-domination-corrupted-california/#GhQyQCgWHuodC251.99
 

TerryMathews

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You mean "Romneycare"? The Republican Heritage Foundation based Health Care Plan?

For President Obama's crowning achievement, you all sure are quick to give credit away.

There's a reason the Republicans never tried to push this plan: it sucks.
 

berzerker60

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What difference at this point, does it make? A country that considers an individual with the track record of Hillary Clinton as a presidential contender is a country that has completely lost its moral compass. These are the types that seek the highest position in the land and too many consider her to be grade A prime. We're living through a failed experiment right now. Why continue the misery?

When I was in eighth grade, our social studies teacher would get us all worked up about current events. He'd talk about an Iranian threat to close the Straights of Hormuz and how that would cause an oil crisis that would threaten our entire country and world. Another day he'd talk about how military preparedness or something was super low, and whatever the story was that week, he'd basically scare us all about how we were in immediate need of urgent change politically. In retrospect, he gave us a hell of an education, because eventually you figured out that you can spin any story you want to be a convincing end of the world scenario if you really want, but the truth is, the world pretty much always gets through its messes and few big scary conspiracies or 'country falling into decay' or whatever actually ever comes to pass.

I guess my point is, I wish you'd also had my social studies teacher, so you could seriously consider the idea that you're just not seeing reality super clearly. Hilary Clinton isn't ideal (no one is), but she's not actually a monster - nor would President Romney have been. Obama's not actually doing any substantial harm to the country. Bush I and Bill Clinton were also pretty innocuous. There's really no need to get worked up. The country is doing great and has a bright future, despite its deep problems. It might not be a future that sticks to your "moral compass," but that's the beauty of democracy - it's not obligated to cater to the pearl clutching and moral outrage of groups losing their unearned dominance of society, no matter how entitled they feel to it.

Here you go, you stupid little shit...........

Hardly doing well at all....but, hey, whatever floats your loonie little boat.


Read more at http://www.westernjournalism.com/democrat-domination-corrupted-california/#GhQyQCgWHuodC251.99

Or, you know, actual news.
http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_24076645/california-economy-gaining-steam-but-recovery-uneven
http://www.latimes.com/business/mon...eport-things-to-know-20131220,0,2662565.story
—Finally, some balance: November’s jobs report is encouraging and strong, economists said. But an 8.5% unemployment rate is nothing to be proud of. “We shouldn’t all congratulate ourselves yet,” Levy said. “It’s still a slow slog.”

California, which was among the states hardest hit by the housing bust and ensuing economic downturn, has not yet recovered all the lost jobs. But the state has made steady progress, economists have said.

It's not all roses and sunshine, but it's far from the apocalypse conservatives have been predicting and salivating over for decades.
 

UberNeuman

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For President Obama's crowning achievement, you all sure are quick to give credit away.

There's a reason the Republicans never tried to push this plan: it sucks.

yet they offered it. Do you despair the albatross draped upon your shoulders....

\take your cloak and wear it well...
 

compuwiz1

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Things improved after Democrats got a super majority and Republicans can't do anything to obstruct.


Are you seriously having sexual intercourse with Diane Feinstein? Do you consider her sane? Those kinds are your leaders that you think are so great? Okay, pal. ;)
 

werepossum

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NY Times reporting contradicts what you are saying about there not being a protest.
My bad. Clearly the New York Times is a more reliable source than the people who were actually there at the time. That also explains why the ambassador never reported a protest - he knew that more than a year later, the New York Times would handle that for him.
 

Zorkorist

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When I was in eighth grade, our social studies teacher would get us all worked up about current events. He'd talk about an Iranian threat to close the Straights of Hormuz and how that would cause an oil crisis that would threaten our entire country and world. Another day he'd talk about how military preparedness or something was super low, and whatever the story was that week, he'd basically scare us all about how we were in immediate need of urgent change politically. In retrospect, he gave us a hell of an education, because eventually you figured out that you can spin any story you want to be a convincing end of the world scenario if you really want, but the truth is, the world pretty much always gets through its messes and few big scary conspiracies or 'country falling into decay' or whatever actually ever comes to pass.

I guess my point is, I wish you'd also had my social studies teacher, so you could seriously consider the idea that you're just not seeing reality super clearly. Hilary Clinton isn't ideal (no one is), but she's not actually a monster - nor would President Romney have been. Obama's not actually doing any substantial harm to the country. Bush I and Bill Clinton were also pretty innocuous. There's really no need to get worked up. The country is doing great and has a bright future, despite its deep problems. It might not be a future that sticks to your "moral compass," but that's the beauty of democracy - it's not obligated to cater to the pearl clutching and moral outrage of groups losing their unearned dominance of society, no matter how entitled they feel to it.



Or, you know, actual news.
http://www.mercurynews.com/business/ci_24076645/california-economy-gaining-steam-but-recovery-uneven
http://www.latimes.com/business/mon...eport-things-to-know-20131220,0,2662565.story


It's not all roses and sunshine, but it's far from the apocalypse conservatives have been predicting and salivating over for decades.
We'll just send you the 17 trillion dollar bill.

I'll say it, and you can ignore it.

Your kids will hate you.

-John
 

Zorkorist

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What difference at this point, does it make? A country that considers an individual with the track record of Hillary Clinton as a presidential contender is a country that has completely lost its moral compass. These are the types that seek the highest position in the land and too many consider her to be grade A prime. We're living through a failed experiment right now. Why continue the misery?
We voted Obama, twice, and universal health care.

We're 17 trillion dollars in debt.

There is very little semblance of freedom left.

Last one out is a rotten egg.

-John
 

compuwiz1

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We voted Obama, twice, and universal health care.

We're 17 trillion dollars in debt.

There is very little semblance of freedom left.

Last one out is a rotten egg.

-John

It's time for change. Yes we will!

Many people don't realize what importance the 2014 mid-terms carry. We must pivot or we are lost forever. The current trajectory is not working.
 

Zorkorist

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We're not going to pivot, compuwiz1.

The people have spoken, and we are going to tax and spend, regulate and govern, to death.

The Constitution is bastardized. The Bill of Rights is no more.

-John