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manowar821

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OP, I agree with you, that is plenty of room. Did the equally distant SUV in front of you have a ticket? If not, I'll calling "dick-head" on this cop.
 

moshquerade

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it doesn't look like you've blocked access to the hydrant, but they have rules with set measurements so just swallow it and pay up.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: mugs
Here in NJ, distances you're allowed to park from fire hydrants and stop signs and whatnot are covered in the driver's manual. You're expected to know that stuff before you get your license, although it's usually marked anyway. Granted, most people don't remember it for very long after they get their license, but ignorance isn't a good excuse.



The pylons are so someone doesn't crash into the hydrant and turn it into a geyser. If they moved them farther apart, they wouldn't serve that purpose.



Edit: Judging by the fact that the hydrant is BLACK instead of a highly visible color like red or yellow, I'm guessing you're in an area where people are uptight about how things look. That might explain why the curb isn't painted and there are no signs.

I thought all hydrants are 2 parters now? Knocking over the top bit just disables the hydrant but does not breach the seal? At least up here it's that way.
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: manowar821
OP, I agree with you, that is plenty of room. Did the equally distant SUV in front of you have a ticket? If not, I'll calling "dick-head" on this cop.

The SUV is clearly further away and may well have been outside of 15ft from the hydrant.
Personally, I'd be worried to park my Jeep that close but the OP car is clearly too close.
 

sdifox

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Originally posted by: PottedMeat
Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Originally posted by: michaelsslave
there asshats because they want to get access to water in case someones life is in danger because of a fire?:confused:

OK so it's their fault.... What if there's a fire. You lucky this didnt' happen

http://www.crazydaniel.com/fir...drantmercedes-full.jpg

Or it would be much more expensive.....

How can someone mistake a BMW for a Mercedes?

Same people who don't understand no parking near hydrant?
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
it doesn't look like you've blocked access to the hydrant, but they have rules with set measurements so just swallow it and pay up.

So you know every law and code for every city and state you have been in? There was no sign and the street was not marked. i would have done the same as every place I have been has either had a sign and/or marked the area to not park.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: moshquerade
it doesn't look like you've blocked access to the hydrant, but they have rules with set measurements so just swallow it and pay up.

So you know every law and code for every city and state you have been in? There was no sign and the street was not marked. i would have done the same as every place I have been has either had a sign and/or marked the area to not park.

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse"

:roll:


It's common knowledge not to block a fire hydrant yet I have never seen a sign saying so.
Fwiw, I would have felt the distance he parked was fine, but that doesn't mean there should be no ticket if he infringed on the set by law distance.
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: moshquerade
it doesn't look like you've blocked access to the hydrant, but they have rules with set measurements so just swallow it and pay up.

So you know every law and code for every city and state you have been in? There was no sign and the street was not marked. i would have done the same as every place I have been has either had a sign and/or marked the area to not park.

Ignorance is not a valid defense. If you are going to drive in NYC, learn the basic parking regulations. Many hydrants in NYC have no markings.
 

Syrch

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I kinda agree with everyone here. OP shouldn't have parked so close but at the same time it was far enough away to warrant a warning not a ticket imo.
 

UNCjigga

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Originally posted by: torpid
15 feet? So the vehicle in front should have a ticket too. OP, did it?
/No, it did not. I think I misinterpreted the rule--I thought you need to leave 15 feet TOTAL clearance for a fire hydrant (roughly one full-size car length), not 15 feet on either side.
 

isasir

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Is the total $115, or is it even higher once you factor in the "processing fee"?
 

rivan

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Originally posted by: Zolty
Around here, and everywhere else I can remember they mark off the no parking zone in yellow, that's an expensive lesson you learned there.

I'd be pissed about that ticket, too. They paint the curbs here, too...
 

mugs

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Originally posted by: sdifox
I thought all hydrants are 2 parters now? Knocking over the top bit just disables the hydrant but does not breach the seal? At least up here it's that way.

That may be the case, but the point of the poles is still to prevent someone from driving over the hydrant. Better to have a bent pole than to have to replace a hydrant and to have a hydrant out of commission for some length of time while it's being repaired.
 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: moshquerade
it doesn't look like you've blocked access to the hydrant, but they have rules with set measurements so just swallow it and pay up.

So you know every law and code for every city and state you have been in? There was no sign and the street was not marked. i would have done the same as every place I have been has either had a sign and/or marked the area to not park.

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse"

:roll:


It's common knowledge not to block a fire hydrant yet I have never seen a sign saying so.
Fwiw, I would have felt the distance he parked was fine, but that doesn't mean there should be no ticket if he infringed on the set by law distance.

So again do you know every law and code for every city and state you have been in?

So I guess having a bumper sticker on your car warrents a ticket? Wearing the wrong color clothing on the wrong day? Not having a note from your husband to go out on certain days by yourself? etc... all of which are laws in some areas. But you are ok with that? :roll:
 

waggy

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: moshquerade
it doesn't look like you've blocked access to the hydrant, but they have rules with set measurements so just swallow it and pay up.

So you know every law and code for every city and state you have been in? There was no sign and the street was not marked. i would have done the same as every place I have been has either had a sign and/or marked the area to not park.

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse"

:roll:


It's common knowledge not to block a fire hydrant yet I have never seen a sign saying so.
Fwiw, I would have felt the distance he parked was fine, but that doesn't mean there should be no ticket if he infringed on the set by law distance.

So again do you know every law and code for every city and state you have been in?

So I guess having a bumper sticker on your car warrents a ticket? Wearing the wrong color clothing on the wrong day? Not having a note from your husband to go out on certain days by yourself? etc... all of which are laws in some areas. But you are ok with that? :roll:

ugh.

IN every town/state i have been in parking near a fire hydrant is against hte law and will get you a ticket. its really common sense.


i have never seen a place where a bumper sticker, color of clothing, or needing a note is a ticketable offnse. stop makeing up shit that has nothing to do with it. it makes you look like a tard.
 

moshquerade

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: moshquerade
it doesn't look like you've blocked access to the hydrant, but they have rules with set measurements so just swallow it and pay up.

So you know every law and code for every city and state you have been in? There was no sign and the street was not marked. i would have done the same as every place I have been has either had a sign and/or marked the area to not park.

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse"

:roll:


It's common knowledge not to block a fire hydrant yet I have never seen a sign saying so.
Fwiw, I would have felt the distance he parked was fine, but that doesn't mean there should be no ticket if he infringed on the set by law distance.

So again do you know every law and code for every city and state you have been in?

So I guess having a bumper sticker on your car warrents a ticket? Wearing the wrong color clothing on the wrong day? Not having a note from your husband to go out on certain days by yourself? etc... all of which are laws in some areas. But you are ok with that? :roll:

i didn't say i was ok with it. i just know if you plead that you didn't know that was a law it isn't gonna fly as a valid excuse.

my husband? what? lol :p
 

DBL

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Originally posted by: torpid
there is no way in hell that suv is 15 feet

It actually may be. If you look closely, you can tell that it is more than 10ft. The angle makes it hard to tell though.
 

UNCjigga

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From Section 4-08 (e) of NYC traffic rules:

(e) General No Stopping Zones (Stopping, standing, and parking prohibited in specified places). No person shall stop, stand, or park a vehicle in any of the following places, unless otherwise indicated by posted signs, markings or other traffic control devices, or at the direction of a law enforcement officer, or as otherwise provided in this subdivision:
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(2) Hydrants. Within fifteen feet of a fire hydrant, unless otherwise indicated by signs, or parking meters, except that during the period from sunrise to sunset if standing is not otherwise prohibited, the operator of a passenger car may stand the vehicle alongside a fire hydrant provided that the operator remains in the operator's seat ready for immediate operation of the vehicle at all times and starts the motor of the car on hearing the approach of fire apparatus, and provided further, that the operator shall immediately remove the car from alongside the fire hydrant when instructed to do so by any member of the police, fire, or other municipal department acting in his/her official capacity.
 

Vette73

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Jul 5, 2000
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Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: moshquerade
it doesn't look like you've blocked access to the hydrant, but they have rules with set measurements so just swallow it and pay up.

So you know every law and code for every city and state you have been in? There was no sign and the street was not marked. i would have done the same as every place I have been has either had a sign and/or marked the area to not park.

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse"

:roll:


It's common knowledge not to block a fire hydrant yet I have never seen a sign saying so.
Fwiw, I would have felt the distance he parked was fine, but that doesn't mean there should be no ticket if he infringed on the set by law distance.

So again do you know every law and code for every city and state you have been in?

So I guess having a bumper sticker on your car warrents a ticket? Wearing the wrong color clothing on the wrong day? Not having a note from your husband to go out on certain days by yourself? etc... all of which are laws in some areas. But you are ok with that? :roll:

i didn't say i was ok with it. i just know if you plead that you didn't know that was a law it isn't gonna fly as a valid excuse.

my husband? what? lol :p

Actually it is a valid defense for a lot of cases. Judges will either throw it out or reduce charges for things like this. If it was a big charge/fine then I could also see a jury kicking it as well.

There are a lot of old laws and dumb ones that catch someone else by mistake when it was written, esp. in ticket towns. They get tossed a lot. Some have to go to the SC like th sodmey laws.

I can see him getting out of this. I would appeal it myself and fight but thats me. :)

 

moshquerade

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Nov 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: moshquerade
it doesn't look like you've blocked access to the hydrant, but they have rules with set measurements so just swallow it and pay up.

So you know every law and code for every city and state you have been in? There was no sign and the street was not marked. i would have done the same as every place I have been has either had a sign and/or marked the area to not park.

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse"

:roll:


It's common knowledge not to block a fire hydrant yet I have never seen a sign saying so.
Fwiw, I would have felt the distance he parked was fine, but that doesn't mean there should be no ticket if he infringed on the set by law distance.

So again do you know every law and code for every city and state you have been in?

So I guess having a bumper sticker on your car warrents a ticket? Wearing the wrong color clothing on the wrong day? Not having a note from your husband to go out on certain days by yourself? etc... all of which are laws in some areas. But you are ok with that? :roll:

i didn't say i was ok with it. i just know if you plead that you didn't know that was a law it isn't gonna fly as a valid excuse.

my husband? what? lol :p

Actually it is a valid defense for a lot of cases. Judges will either throw it out or reduce charges for things like this. If it was a big charge/fine then I could also see a jury kicking it as well.

There are a lot of old laws and dumb ones that catch someone else by mistake when it was written, esp. in ticket towns. They get tossed a lot. Some have to go to the SC like th sodmey laws.

I can see him getting out of this. I would appeal it myself and fight but thats me. :)
i don't think this case applies to the ones you are referring to.
 

UNCjigga

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Originally posted by: DBL
Originally posted by: torpid
there is no way in hell that suv is 15 feet

It actually may be. If you look closely, you can tell that it is more than 10ft. The angle makes it hard to tell though.
I can't remember exactly but going by the slab rule, I was one full slab away from the hydrant, and the SUV was just less than 3 slabs away. He was still almost 3x further than I was so he was in the clear.

 

Vette73

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Originally posted by: Tard
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: moshquerade
Originally posted by: Marlin1975
Originally posted by: moshquerade
it doesn't look like you've blocked access to the hydrant, but they have rules with set measurements so just swallow it and pay up.

So you know every law and code for every city and state you have been in? There was no sign and the street was not marked. i would have done the same as every place I have been has either had a sign and/or marked the area to not park.

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse"

:roll:


It's common knowledge not to block a fire hydrant yet I have never seen a sign saying so.
Fwiw, I would have felt the distance he parked was fine, but that doesn't mean there should be no ticket if he infringed on the set by law distance.

So again do you know every law and code for every city and state you have been in?

So I guess having a bumper sticker on your car warrents a ticket? Wearing the wrong color clothing on the wrong day? Not having a note from your husband to go out on certain days by yourself? etc... all of which are laws in some areas. But you are ok with that? :roll:

ugh.

IN every town/state i have been in parking near a fire hydrant is against hte law and will get you a ticket. its really common sense.


i have never seen a place where a bumper sticker, color of clothing, or needing a note is a ticketable offnse. stop makeing up shit that has nothing to do with it. it makes you look like a tard.


You are the tard. here are soem other ones I grabbed real quick...

No fireworks may be thrown by hand during Holy Week.

Town fathers, reflecting the pet peeve of hearing their town's name mispronounced 'Jolly-ETTE' when all local folk know it's pronounced 'Joe-lee-ETTE', made pronouncing it Jolly-ette a misdemeanor, punishable by a $5 fine.

Donkeys cannot sleep in bathtubs.

It is illegal to have a sheep in the cab of your truck without a chaperone.

and so on.

Heres a link for you Tard
Dumb Laws