JulesMaximus
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- Jul 3, 2003
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Boy those people are fvcking stupid. Glad they got canned. I hope they live lives of poverty because they can't find work anywhere else. Ignorant fvcks.
Tru, they don't. But allowing them to stay on the air does speak for a bigger portion of the population.
KeyserSoze
Originally posted by: Mo0o
Originally posted by: Schrodinger
Originally posted by: Svnla
Originally posted by: classy
..... Your people have some book smarts, but ain't much else beyond that. Damn toad
You are right, we don't do these things as well as your brothas and sistas:
1) We don't call our women *whores* and *bitches*.
2) We don't need Affirmative Action program just get in college. We compete fairly on our own merits.
3) Our men are not in prisons or in probation as much as your brothas.
4) Our guys don't screw as many different women as your brothas, to make as much babies as possible and then run away from responsibilty.
5) Within a few years of arrival to the US, most of us are successful, we don't need goverment handouts for generations after generations like your brothas and sistas.
6) Most of our kids have BOTH parents and SAME dad (see #4).
7) We don't cry *racist* and call Jessie Jackson or Al Sharpton everytime if things don't go our way. No justice, no peace chantings are getting old.
8) We don't murder our own as your brothas (check out the crime stats of black on black violent crimes).
9) Our meals (rice, noodles) are taste better and healthier than your meals (Churchs/KFC chickens)...(from your fried rice statement).
10) We don't create the garbage music such as rap.
Yup, you are absolutely right, we only good at booksmart, and not good for anything else. We sure don't want to end up like your brothas and sistas. We gotta act *white*....LOL.
:thumbsup:
But classy has street smarts! How hes not a millionaire is beyond me!
Sad.
Being Japanese-American myself, I don't see the above as any better than that song. It's divide and conquer (my race is better than your race because of XYZ), meanwhile other races get a kick at watching the infighting.
It's the same crap that was done when they claimed Japanese-Americans as the "model minority", claiming because they hold up to white standards they're better than other minorities. The rift and myth that label caused in the minority community is what makes these songs, as Blacks feel left out once again as they're not white enough. Meanwhile, Japanese-Americans never asked for the label, nor would claim it's even real (they're human too). Short sightness and institutional racism caused the labeling, and ignorance keeps it alive today.
I don't condone the song or that mind think, but I can understand how Blacks feel pushed to be adhere to a white standard -- they're not white and no one has business in trying to make them act more like them, anyway. They can only define themselves, and in time they'll find their own path as a people.
That's racist itself. What does a white person act like anyway? Who says a black person can't act like a white person? Shouldn't we just ignore what race a person is? No one made the tsunami a race issue until the Hot 97 staff made a racist song. No one needed to know the race of the DJ until she started insulting the Asian girl. No one was saying the problem with the song was that it was made by a black staff until Classy started assuming everyone was out to get them because they were black. Race reform needs to come from everyone, minorities included.
Would you think it was just a tasteless joke if it was an asian radio station making fun of blacks and slavery and referring to your people as "awesome people". You really can't be that ignorant.... oh wait judging by your other posts I guess you are. Have a nice day.
Actually it's called self awareness.
How do white people act? If you don't realize the push to act white in the minority communities, you really have no clue (how you dress, how you talk, how you even look -- WASP values). I hope you'll learn that each community has their own customs, traditions and needs, and no race has the right to dictate their mores on another.
It's what was done to the Native Americans, and history shows how ugly that experiment is.
I am a minority and I think I know plenty about the pressures that do exist. I am also young and honestly, there is a far bigger difference between me and those ten years older than myself, or a thousand miles south of me, than to those of any other race.
What you are promoting is an artificial definition of a persons behaviors. By your standard a minority would no longer feel forced to behave "white" but would instead feel forced to act like his or her race is "supposed to act". What is wrong with ignoring race and allowing people to act any way they want to? What you're talking about seems not so much pressure to act like another race, but pressure to conform to popular culture, which is arguably more influenced by minorities today than whites.
The fact is that very often, the people that compain about something being a race issue are the same people that made it into a race issue in the first place!
And you'd ignore it? You're aware that it exists and just don't care the effects on traditions, customs of a community? You're more sensitive to age or regional discrimination instead??
It exists because of status quo. Easier to give up the farm, than to work on it.
Maybe because you weren't raised in the age you weren't FORCED to speak only one language, because your teacher complained that you spoke some Japanese, that the road to enlightenment is easier. Easier to lose the ability to be bilingual just to be more White.
Oh, I'm a Happa. Half Japanese and White, so I see both worlds, and lived in each. Because of that perspective, and being raised in a time where assimiliation was FORCED, I'm more aware of those seemingly passive efforts to "civilized" other races/ethnic groups.
Memories -- what you consider age -- does have an impact in how you view the world and the realities it brings.
No, the community defines itself. It'll learn and grow on it's own terms. It's like letting a kid explore and maybe skin his knee in the process, but a society has to do it on their own. Otherwise, too fast assimilation robs them not only of their heritage, their identities.
You can't be true to yourself ignoring the fact others will always see you differently as you're not related, that's why. Ignoring who you are to "fit in" short changes your own identity at the expense to be like anyone else.
It's noble to claim "let's have a color free world!", but in reality because of human nature we relate more to our own than to others. It's why Whites cling onto their views about race relations, why blacks do, and why Asians do.
Furthermore, biochemically we are different. And being different isn't a sin, each race has it's bonuses and weaknesses, but in the end specialization is good for mankind overall.
I think you're projecting your views here (reread your comment about age). I never mentioned "popular culture" as it's fleeting and what's popular today won't be tomorrow. What I'm talking about is identities, culture and traditions lost by the push to assimilate faster than a community can handle the change.
Actually being self aware isn't racism. If you believe that, you've been hoodwinked by another myth that America is a "melting pot", too.
You're right, I think our disagreement has a lot to do with our ages.
I am Chinese, on both sides of the family. I'm proud to be an American, and despite going through public schools and a state university which are both at least 85% white, I'm proud to be able to say I have never felt discriminated against because of my race. I do not conform either, I do whatever I want to, whether it be more typical of Asians or Whites or any other race. Of course, it's also important to say I realize how recently minorities were treated horribly in this country and I appreciate what those who experienced that time went through.
I have several relatives and aquantices who think much like you do, probably shaped by their experiences. However, I see absolutely no reason for me to live my life constantly reminding myself of my race, what I should be doing, or how other people might see might as different when none of the people I have met have given me any reason to do so. I am not one to judge your experiences, but my thoery is that if more people acted race blind maybe they would be treated that way as well.
When you get older you'll feel the draw to learn more about your kin, and by extension your community. I was the same way as you when I was 20, but when you're 40, time and experience shapes your beliefs resolutely.
I lived through the tail end of the Civil Rights era, and luckily didn't have to goto segregated schools (which my older siblings faced), but the race riots, the bigotry and the tormoil it brought is still fresh in my memory today. I lost part of my heritage because "white is right", and that experience is not unlike so many others folks hear on TV and elsewhere claiming -- "racism!!" (because it's true).
The generation today may not see it, may not feel it, may not even care. But look at those who came before you and see how much work still needs to be done to address racism and it's effects. It's more than just skin color, it's an institutional in it's grip.
Whites are learning that now as they'll feel their majority being supplanted by Hispanics and other ethnic groups. They'll also learn how hard it is to communicate when XYZ disclaims their words, their experiences, and injustices. It should never have to come to that to understand racism and it's effects, but it's ineviable, because folks rather ignore or believe in myths instead.
May the next generation learn, and right the wrong.
I lived through the tail end of the Civil Rights era, and luckily didn't have to goto segregated schools (which my older siblings faced), but the race riots, the bigotry and the tormoil it brought is still fresh in my memory today. I lost part of my heritage because "white is right", and that experience is not unlike so many others folks hear on TV and elsewhere claiming -- "racism!!" (because it's true).
The generation today may not see it, may not feel it, may not even care. But look at those who came before you and see how much work still needs to be done to address racism and it's effects. It's more than just skin color, it's an institutional in it's grip.
Whites are learning that now as they'll feel their majority being supplanted by Hispanics and other ethnic groups. They'll also learn how hard it is to communicate when XYZ disclaims their words, their experiences, and injustices. It should never have to come to that to understand racism and it's effects, but it's ineviable, because folks rather ignore or believe in myths instead.
May the next generation learn, and right the wrong.
Not sure if this is a repost. But here is McDonald's response to my email:
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Hello xxxxx:
Thank you for taking the time contact McDonald's. We appreciate the opportunity to respond to you regarding the recent events involving hosts from the Hot 97 morning radio program in New York.
First, McDonald's does not support programs that discriminate or are insensitive to the plight of people suffering from devastating events. Starting immediately, McDonald's will indefinitely suspend advertising on the Hot 97 morning show.
It's also important to know that Ronald McDonald House Charities, McDonald's Corporation and the McDonald's family around the world have donated more than two million dollars to the Tsunami relief efforts. We take these matters very seriously and will continue to work together to help victims of this devastating disaster.
Again, thank you for giving us the opportunity to respond to your concerns.
Noelle
McDonald's Customer Response Center
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Hello xxxxx:
Thank you for taking the time contact McDonald's. We appreciate the opportunity to respond to you regarding the recent events involving hosts from the Hot 97 morning radio program in New York.
First, McDonald's does not support programs that discriminate or are insensitive to the plight of people suffering from devastating events. Starting immediately, McDonald's will indefinitely suspend advertising on the Hot 97 morning show.
It's also important to know that Ronald McDonald House Charities, McDonald's Corporation and the McDonald's family around the world have donated more than two million dollars to the Tsunami relief efforts. We take these matters very seriously and will continue to work together to help victims of this devastating disaster.
Again, thank you for giving us the opportunity to respond to your concerns.
Noelle
McDonald's Customer Response Center
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It seems like most of the morning shows sponsors like Jackson Hewett, Sprint, Mcdonalds, and some other ones are all stopping their advertising. I also noticed that she wasn't really suspended until after these companies made it public that they no longer wanted to advertise on the morning show.
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