NY to legalize marijuana

[MrSquished]

Dude, do you live in the city? It already has a smell. Somewhere between moldy bar and fetid swamp ass.

I do live near the city and am there often. You have no idea what you are talking about. Of course, it's one of the most intense cities in the world there are some unpleasant scents here and there, in a subway station or entrance here or there for example, but there is no overall smell.

 

[5to1baby1in5]

Great, the city is going to have a smell. You do realize that New York state little by little is trying to copy Nevada's laws. First it was a casino at the Aqueduct Racetrack. Then it was legalizing gay marriage. Followed by this, the legalization of weed. I did my research this time, and they really are trying to copy the laws of Nevada, because legitimately next on the list is legalization of prostitution in the state of New York. Nevada is the only other state where it would be legal. No wonder for the past two presidential elections, NYC has been going more and more Republican. What the New York State legislature does not understand is that majority of Las Vegas have tried multiple times unsuccessfully to illegalize prostitution state-wide, as the businesses in Las Vegas are considering it to be a nuisance.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but prostitution is illegal in Clark County (Which includes Las Vegas), Nevada.
All the brothels are in different counties.
More proof of Amol'S ignorance?

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

You seem concerned.

I don't in the slightest.

Not measurably different than how it is now but safer for everyone and the gov gets a cut.

I completely agree. Having a legitimate business instead of under-the-table is better for...well...everything.
1) Society - Instead of getting aids from hookers
2) Society - Getting to pay for sex instead of being shunned for virginity, etc...
3) Government - to tax it as a legitimate business.

 

[uclaLabrat]

I do live near the city and am there often. You have no idea what you are talking about. Of course, it's one of the most intense cities in the world there are some unpleasant scents here and there, in a subway station or entrance here or there for example, but there is no overall smell.

It's been a decade since I lived in Manhattan and I was only there for 2 years, but it has a smell. It waxes and wanes with the seasons but there's nothing like those hot, opperssively muggy summer days where the whole street smells like the gutter or those wafting subway smells out the grates. The sickly-sweet smell of half burnt exhaust fumes and partially decayed organic matter, reaching in and violating your nose since NYC insists there not be a single sense it cannot offend.

My favorite was when we had 2 ft of snow day after Christmas and the city fucking shut DOWN, they didn't collect trash for 3 weeks on my block so there was a curbside wall of accumulated garbage. You'd walk by and the wall would vibrate like you were in the matrix as all the rats scurried about from your passing.

Even at 20 deg the city had a smell then.

 

[K1052]

Probably one of my bigger complaints about NYC is the refusal to move from this:





To this:

 

[Brainonska511]

I do live near the city and am there often. You have no idea what you are talking about. Of course, it's one of the most intense cities in the world there are some unpleasant scents here and there, in a subway station or entrance here or there for example, but there is no overall smell.

Having been a former resident of NYC, I'd say that NYC often has the fantastic smell of garbage because the city refuses to replace any private vehicle parking on streets with communal, rat-secure dumpsters, so trash just gets piled in flimsy, leaky plastic bags on the sidewalk to forever permeate the sidewalk.

Edit:
I see @K1052 has already posted what I would like to see in NYC.

 

[Amol S.]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but prostitution is illegal in Clark County (Which includes Las Vegas), Nevada.
All the brothels are in different counties.
More proof of Amol'S ignorance?

Las Vegas is gets ranked at high number when it comes to child prostitution cases. I was not talking about legal prostitution when stating they were a nuisance, I referring to the illegal prostitution that occurs in Las Vegas.

Do we have a human trafficking problem?

The federal government believes Las Vegas is a top destination for

www.lasvegassun.com

Pimps force underage girls to work in Nevada brothels, Oregon police say

One such case was prosecuted last month. Another arrest was made Tuesday. Harvey said a third Oregon case involving a Nevada brothel will be filed in two weeks.

www.lasvegassun.com

Opinion | Politics and Misogyny (Published 2008)

With Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton’s win in New Hampshire, gender issues are suddenly in the news. Where has everybody been?

www.nytimes.com

 

[Amol S.]

Having been a former resident of NYC, I'd say that NYC often has the fantastic smell of garbage because the city refuses to replace any private vehicle parking on streets with communal, rat-secure dumpsters, so trash just gets piled in flimsy, leaky plastic bags on the sidewalk to forever permeate the sidewalk.

Edit:
I see @K1052 has already posted what I would like to see in NYC.

Maybe I lived in NYC for my entire life (past 25 years), I maybe don't even smell that smell.

 

[Brainonska511]

Maybe I lived in NYC for my entire life (past 25 years), I maybe don't even smell that smell.

It varied by neighborhood and time of year. Regardless, the garbage situation is gross.

 

[MrSquished]

It's been a decade since I lived in Manhattan and I was only there for 2 years, but it has a smell. It waxes and wanes with the seasons but there's nothing like those hot, opperssively muggy summer days where the whole street smells like the gutter or those wafting subway smells out the grates. The sickly-sweet smell of half burnt exhaust fumes and partially decayed organic matter, reaching in and violating your nose since NYC insists there not be a single sense it cannot offend.

My favorite was when we had 2 ft of snow day after Christmas and the city fucking shut DOWN, they didn't collect trash for 3 weeks on my block so there was a curbside wall of accumulated garbage. You'd walk by and the wall would vibrate like you were in the matrix as all the rats scurried about from your passing.

Even at 20 deg the city had a smell then.

I just don't get that smell and neither do the people I know there, as an overall smell. For sure, sometimes you'll pass something that smells, but it's not the overall smell of the city. If it did, I wouldn't go there much. And I ride my bike around a lot of neighborhoods, especially in the warmer weather, including the hot days, which requires a lot of breathing and smelling.

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I have seen solutions like these in other cities, like in the Hague https://www.denhaag.nl/en/waste-and...ish-containers-for-a-clean-neighbourhood-.htm - they are underground and come up for collection, so neat. But that's a much less dense city than NYC. That's just not gonna be possible in areas as dense as Manhattan, even with taking up some parking spaces.

Maybe in a newly designed city that can be part of the future, it's unfortunately probably not possible in most of NYC. What they should do is increase collection of the public trash cans that are on the sidewalk. That is an issue that can be fixed with a quick fix. Possibly increase the frequency of collection in certain neighborhoods just so the piles get smaller.

There is an AVAC system on Roosevelt island, but to do that to all of NYC? Probably impossible.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Probably one of my bigger complaints about NYC is the refusal to move from this:

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To this:


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lol thats what you get with government workers + unionization.

Working on legacy things - refusing to innovate - and refusing to eliminate things that could potentially cost them their jobs.

It's just a matter of if a big-boy adult is leading the group - or if it's lead by imbecile workers. Smart people know. Dumb people fear it.



You know that is the absolute truth - too. Were talking the difference between trucks that can automatically grab + dump the trash - vs. having 2-3 individuals hired to grab bags. It's a fucking no-brainer to anyone with an IQ over 20.

 

[K1052]

I have seen solutions like these in other cities, like in the Hague https://www.denhaag.nl/en/waste-and...ish-containers-for-a-clean-neighbourhood-.htm - they are underground and come up for collection, so neat. But that's a much less dense city than NYC. That's just not gonna be possible in areas as dense as Manhattan, even with taking up some parking spaces.

Maybe in a newly designed city that can be part of the future, it's unfortunately probably not possible in most of NYC. What they should do is increase collection of the public trash cans that are on the sidewalk. That is an issue that can be fixed with a quick fix. Possibly increase the frequency of collection in certain neighborhoods just so the piles get smaller.

There is an AVAC system on Roosevelt island, but to do that to all of NYC? Probably impossible.

I think they could do the big surface bins but taking out parking is going to be the fight of course. I'd pilot it in a neighborhood or two and see how it went were it up to me.

The vac system on Roosevelt Island is nice but yea I doubt it could be deployed citywide at a reasonable cost and without a ton of argument.

 

[MrSquished]

I think they could do the big surface bins but taking out parking is going to be the fight of course. I'd pilot it in a neighborhood or two and see how it went were it up to me.

The vac system on Roosevelt Island is nice but yea I doubt it could be deployed citywide at a reasonable cost and without a ton of argument.

The Hague solution was really cool though.

NYC seems to be moving forward with removing parking spots for outdoor dining permanently. That's a good thing to me overall, as a lot of restaurants could use the space for a little extra money. Might leave little appetite for losing more spots for garbage removal. But maybe that battle should be fought. The one issue with outdoor dining structures is when there is a busy bike-lane between the outdoor dining and the restaurant. That becomes a bit dicey with people constantly crossing over the bike lane. First world problems.

 

[K1052]

lol thats what you get with government workers + unionization.

Working on legacy things - refusing to innovate - and refusing to eliminate things that could potentially cost them their jobs.

It's just a matter of if a big-boy adult is leading the group - or if it's lead by imbecile workers. Smart people know. Dumb people fear it.

Garbage pickup is split between NYC Sanitation for residential and private haulers for commercial. The latter of these is the bigger problem from what I've read. The private haulers also got pretty nuts trying to compete for business that drivers got reckless and people were getting killed. The city recently created zones where only a couple operators can do business because it got so out of control.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Garbage pickup is split between NYC Sanitation for residential and private haulers for commercial. The latter of these is the bigger problem from what I've read. The private haulers also got pretty nuts trying to compete for business that drivers got reckless and people were getting killed. The city recently created zones where only a couple operators can do business because it got so out of control.

The inability for the government to use the market to make demands with the "private haulers" is the same thing as government themselves. Private industry will gladly do the same amount of work for increased pay - instead of innovating if they don't have a competitor. No competition? No problem. No reason to innovate. No reason to change or cut-costs.

The onus is still on the government. Just sounds like government is in bed with those "private haulers" - which is atypical of our government of having government workers in-bed with specific companies. Is this new to you?


I also can't find anything in articles saying that this is a specific problem with private vs. NYC Sanitation. Care to cite anything reputable?

 

[K1052]

The Hague solution was really cool though.

NYC seems to be moving forward with removing parking spots for outdoor dining permanently. That's a good thing to me overall, as a lot of restaurants could use the space for a little extra money. Might leave little appetite for losing more spots for garbage removal. But maybe that battle should be fought. The one issue with outdoor dining structures is when there is a busy bike-lane between the outdoor dining and the restaurant. That becomes a bit dicey with people constantly crossing over the bike lane. First world problems.

Yes fortunately drivers are never going to claw that space back from restaurants. Outdoor dining is here to stay. Maybe if people are outdoors more the piles of trash will be objectionable enough for something to be done long term.

Eventually NYC is going to need to reconfigure streets to accommodate this for cyclists, busses, pedestrians, and more diners. Removing parking is good for the city and they should do a lot more of it.

 

[hal2kilo]

CA prices look pretty much like WA prices as far as I can tell, I don't know why I'd go through the hassle of black market weed at those prices.
Retail prices here are better than black market prices in the midwest, too...

Plus you know exactly what you are buying. Strain/strains THCA THC and CBD %'s It's all tested.

 

[cytg111]

Plus you know exactly what you are buying. Strain/strains THCA THC and CBD %'s It's all tested.

Side Q. Am I the only one that only gets confused from smoking weed? Dont get a high or anything "pleasent" from it? Only this annoying fog thing that you cant wait for to pass?

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

Maybe I lived in NYC for my entire life (past 25 years), I maybe don't even smell that smell.

I've been to NYC once. It doesn't have a smell, overall, but every once in a while you walk past a spot, that has a distinct funk. Like overwhelming level of raunch that nobody can ignore, and it's like holy shit, where did that come from?

But the city as a whole doesn't have a smell really, other than car exhaust (which all cities share).

 

[Vic]

Weed to prostitution, quite the jump. Keep in mind, I think both should be legal.

And you're right, freedom has a certain smell to it

Isn't it amazing how much self-labeled 'libertarian' conservatives hate freedom? And always with some fearmongering slippery slope BS. They'd fucking outlaw everything and everyone but themselves if they could.

 

[fskimospy]

It's been a decade since I lived in Manhattan and I was only there for 2 years, but it has a smell. It waxes and wanes with the seasons but there's nothing like those hot, opperssively muggy summer days where the whole street smells like the gutter or those wafting subway smells out the grates. The sickly-sweet smell of half burnt exhaust fumes and partially decayed organic matter, reaching in and violating your nose since NYC insists there not be a single sense it cannot offend.

My favorite was when we had 2 ft of snow day after Christmas and the city fucking shut DOWN, they didn't collect trash for 3 weeks on my block so there was a curbside wall of accumulated garbage. You'd walk by and the wall would vibrate like you were in the matrix as all the rats scurried about from your passing.

Even at 20 deg the city had a smell then.

Cant say I agree. There are certain areas of Manhattan that are often pretty smelly (I’m looking at you, Chinatown and SoHo) but overall it smells no different than any other east coast city. I do agree there are some July and August days in Manhattan in those areas that are fucking offensive but that’s a small part of the city and the rest is fine - been there ten years now. As everyone else has noted though, the habit of storing garbage on the sidewalk instead of dumpsters has to fucking go.

New York is probably my favorite place I’ve ever lived but two things about it irritate the shit out of me. 1) the honking and 2) the trash. Bloomberg tried to solve the honking and failed so maybe that’s just insurmountable. I do feel like the trash could be fixed or at least substantially improved though.

 

[jman19]

Isn't it amazing how much self-labeled 'libertarian' conservatives hate freedom? And always with some fearmongering slippery slope BS. They'd fucking outlaw everything and everyone but themselves if they could.

Modern "conservatives" are hardly libertarians, as you noted. I never understood how gun activists could also be so oppressive on other personal liberty topics yet here we are...

 

[uclaLabrat]

Ok, I freely admit to hyperbole, that smell wasn't even a daily thing, but depending on the weather and the trash pickup it could be pervasive and overbearing.

Here in sonoma county we have a similar thing where the farmers put manure on their fields and the whole town legit smells like cows hit for a day, maybe two.

 

[fskimospy]

Ok, I freely admit to hyperbole, that smell wasn't even a daily thing, but depending on the weather and the trash pickup it could be pervasive and overbearing.

Here in sonoma county we have a similar thing where the farmers put manure on their fields and the whole town legit smells like cows hit for a day, maybe two.

I always did wonder why people buy condos in Soho for $2 million when if they open their windows it smells like a used diaper.

 

[jman19]

I always did wonder why people buy condos in Soho for $2 million when if they open their windows it smells like a used diaper.

Spent 30+ years in NY.

There is no "general" city smell.

But I will say... those hot summer days in the subway were nasty.

And SoHo... yeah I can see that. Downtown is so overcrowded.