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ManBearPig

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Originally posted by: Acanthus
Originally posted by: Heen05
is it a big difference between low and high textures?

Yes.

A64 3400+ (NC) | BFG 6800GT OC | Fortron 530w PSU |
DFI Lanparty UT | 1GB Kingston Value RAM | Audigy 2 ZS Gamer |
Diamondmax10 w/ 16mb cache| Antec P160| Logitech Z2200 2.1 | NEC 3500A

recommended specs then?
 

apoppin

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Mar 9, 2000
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Originally posted by: Heen05
are the patches helping performance at all?

yes ... and no

oob it was unplayable for me

1.02 was playable ... with bugs

the latest patch[e] made some things better and some worse

and high textures look nice but demand a lot of performance from your video.

looking forward to seeing if 1.03 really fixes it for me
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Heen05
are the patches helping performance at all?

yes ... and no

oob it was unplayable for me

1.02 was playable ... with bugs

the latest patch[e] made some things better and some worse

and high textures look nice but demand a lot of performance from your video.

looking forward to seeing if 1.03 really fixes it for me

My working theory is the game uses more than 256MB of graphics memory at high settings.
 

shortylickens

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SHORTY LICKENS HAS IT! HOORAY! HOORAY!
Ok, enough attention whore.

-= SHORTY's unoffical, untimely, unprofessional review of Neverwinter Nights 2. =-

Overall, I like it much more than number 1. You can actually control your party members and their AI. You cant group select and move like Baldurs Gate, but its better than before.

I picked a cleric and was pleasantly suprised to find I could not only pick a deity and domains, but also get the special abilities and spells from those domains. Also, clerics can supposedly sacrifice a spell to cast a healing spell from the same level, but I have yet to figure out how to make that work.

Skills and feats are much closer to the 3.5 Players Guide versions, and there are more of them.

The character screen and inventory are still the same abomination introduced in NWN 1, but they take up less space than before. Of course, that means the icons are smaller and even more difficult to read but it wasnt a great system in the first place.
You now have 10 quick bars with 12 quick slots each, making it much easier to access just about everything your character can do. There is also a quick spell bar and a mode bar. The mode bar lets you activate any continuous actions like search, parry and hide.

Speaking of easy access to bars, they replaced the cumbersome command circle with a command pull down menu (similar to Object Bar for windows). It lets you scan backwards quickly so you can find special abilities easier, even emotes.

The camera controls are much better but still not quite the same as Baldurs Gate. Still very difficult to make all your PC's move across the map and attack a bunch of monsters.
And even though the AI controls are a little more thourough, you still arent allowed to enable or disable the AI and group selection quickly, again making it difficult to engage monsters at your leisure.
I really wish this game would let you customize the GUI like in Guild Wars, it would be nice to enlarge the icons so I could view and click them easily, especially important at higher resolutions.
Speaking of which, I am getting excellent performance across the board, but I have a 7900GTX so YMMV.

Any questions about actual gameplay I am willing to answer.
Troubleshooting questions should be directed to the Bioware website. I have a magic computer that somehow avoids all the issues modern players seem to have with video games. Since so few things go wrong I cant comment on how to fix them.

Am only using the 1.00 that came with the game. I understand that 1.02 makes more problems than it fixes and 1.03 is coming soon.
Have not made or downloaded any user mods yet.

One thing I did want to know from some more experienced players:
Does this game follow classic D&D 3.5 or modified rules for multi-classing?
What I mean is: can I select a buttload of different classes or am I limited to 3 like in the first game?
I really like my cleric/rogue and her path to Divine Warrior, but I need to up my base attack bonus to get there. Dont wanna take on fighter as well if I cant select a 4th class (prestige) later on.

Oh, and getting back to the review, they have a lot more basic classes available in this game right at the start, and they also have the descriptions for the prestige classes so you can plan your path from Day One.
 

Dethfrumbelo

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1.02 also has SecuROM v7, which installs its own 'service' and undeletable registry keys. I've had problems with it in the past, and more than a few people on the Bioware forums have reported crashes/BSoDs after installing 1.02.
 

Acanthus

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Originally posted by: Dethfrumbelo
1.02 also has SecuROM v7, which installs its own 'service' and undeletable registry keys. I've had problems with it in the past, and more than a few people on the Bioware forums have reported crashes/BSoDs after installing 1.02.

Its hilarious that they even do this, since drive emulation software works fine...
 

shortylickens

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Originally posted by: Whitecloak
the limit is 3 base classes + 1 prestige class
GRACIAS.
I also figured out how to convert any spell to a healing.
On the spell quickbar there is a little icon to the far right that toggles healing spells at any level.
 

Mem

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Apr 23, 2000
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Beta patch 1.03 released!


Hey Everyone,

We've released a beta version for the v1.03 patch today. For instructions on how to apply it, please head over to our NWN2 beta patch website at: http://nwn2.obsidian.net/support/patch_beta.html

Additional mirrors for the patch can be found at:
NWVault
NWN2 Warcry

Additionally, the beta patch currently has two limitations:

1) This beta patch is currently only compatible with the English version of the game. Localized versions of the patch will be available soon.

2) In order to install the v1.03 Beta Patch, you will need to make sure you are currently running v1.02 of NWN2.

Also, as with all Beta software, this patch is a work in progress. It is highly recommended that you back up your "My Documents\Neverwinter Nights 2" folder before installing the Beta patch.

We here at Obsidian greatly appreciate any feedback you
can provide on this Beta Patch. We plan to have the final version of the patch (which will support all languages and will be acquired through the autoupdater) available soon.
 

apoppin

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beta?

again :p
[the last couple screwed up more then it fixed]

i believed they promised a working 1.03 by Thanksgiving. ;)
:Q

no surprise

sorry but i am not d/l'ing it to d/l it again

thank heavens i got G3 and DM M&M working fine
-- G3 is replacing Oblivion as my favourite game. :Q
:thumbsup:

[i just feel bad that i could have waited over a month to get it $20 cheaper ... and have a shorter wait to actually play it]
:disgust:


 

Mem

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Apr 23, 2000
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apoppin:I'm waiting for official 1.03 patch before I even install the game,still playing FEAR at the moment :).
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Mem
apoppin:I'm waiting for official 1.03 patch before I even install the game,still playing FEAR at the moment :).

FEAR or its Xpack?

FEAR plays great ... otoh, i am having real performance issues with the X-pack :p
[set it aside also]

oh, well ... 2 outta four

i guess my lesson is buy everything bargain bin :|

[i have enough new games to keep me occupied ... for months] :)
 

sthaznpride17

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It is 25 bucks at Best Buy for the Black Friday deals, so if anybody has any doubts for paying 50 bucks, I say this is a great deal.
 

Dethfrumbelo

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Originally posted by: apoppin
beta?

again :p
[the last couple screwed up more then it fixed]

i believed they promised a working 1.03 by Thanksgiving. ;)
:Q

no surprise

sorry but i am not d/l'ing it to d/l it again

thank heavens i got G3 and DM M&M working fine
-- G3 is replacing Oblivion as my favourite game. :Q
:thumbsup:

[i just feel bad that i could have waited over a month to get it $20 cheaper ... and have a shorter wait to actually play it]
:disgust:

True. It's my $20 lesson never to buy games on day one.



 

Whitecloak

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May 4, 2001
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I finished playing the game. I have to say that it was almost as good as BG2. Excellent game!
 

Mem

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Apr 23, 2000
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I finished playing the game. I have to say that it was almost as good as BG2. Excellent game!

Lot of changes/features and fixes coming in the 1.03 patch,that's the main reason while I'm holding off on my install of the game.
 

manko

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Originally posted by: sthaznpride17
It is 25 bucks at Best Buy for the Black Friday deals, so if anybody has any doubts for paying 50 bucks, I say this is a great deal.

Yup, I couldn't resist picking it up at this price.

$25 at BB
 

Bateluer

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Jun 23, 2001
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Originally posted by: manko
Originally posted by: sthaznpride17
It is 25 bucks at Best Buy for the Black Friday deals, so if anybody has any doubts for paying 50 bucks, I say this is a great deal.

Yup, I couldn't resist picking it up at this price.

$25 at BB

Dang, that almost makes me want to buy a second copy. For my notebook.


Think thats funny? Eventually I'll have three legal copies of NWN1. I've got the release version, plus both its official expansions, all on CDs. Then I bought the Platinum Edition with NWN1 and its expansions, and all the Premium modules released up to that point, on DVD. Once they release a new special edition with all the current premium modules on it, I'll be picking that up too. I'm hoping they will release such an edition as official NWN1 development winds down.