NVIDIA Volta Rumor Thread

[Yotsugi]

So it won't game a lot faster than a 1080ti?

Probably not.
But GV102 might.
Lotsa ALUs and high clocks should go together very well.

 

[Qwertilot]

The good thing is that I guess is that now they've seemingly assigned Titan's back to their compute line (where it makes vastly more sense than in consumer), we're rather unlikely to see a GV102 based 'gaming' titan.

Or maybe their money/marketing people won't be able to resist anyway.....

 

[Yotsugi]

Or maybe their money/marketing people won't be able to resist anyway.....

It's nVidia.
You answered your own question.

 

[Muhammed]

Probably not.
But GV102 might.
Lotsa ALUs and high clocks should go together very well.

Wait for benches, architectural improvements here are numerous, and memory bandwidth is huge, that alone could account for a healthy dose of fps boost.

 

[Yotsugi]

architectural improvements here are numerous

Like every one of them is related to pure numbercrunching.

memory bandwidth is huge

Bandwidth alone won't make something perform in itself better, see Fiji.

 

[Muhammed]

Like every one of them is related to pure numbercrunching.

~15 TFLOPS of FP32 vs ~12 TFLOPS for the Titan XP (~25% gaming improvement without accounting for architectural improvements)
~650 GB/s of memory bandwidth vs ~ 550 GB/s for the Titan XP (~20% bandwidth improvements).

GP100 was like 30% faster than GP102 in a lot of applications, GV100 is much faster than GP100. So I am guessing the boost will be substantial over TitanXP.

 

[Glo.]

You know what this means, do you?

Next generation GPUs from Nvidia will actually use Volta architecture, and most likely will have Tensor cores.

For compatibility reasons.

 

[Dayman1225]

Next generation GPUs from Nvidia will actually use Volta architecture

Yes.

and most likely will have Tensor cores.

For compatibility reasons.

No. This is basically a throwback to the OG Titans. (Titan Black etc from Kepler). This is the GV100 die, not GV102. You will not see Tensor in GV102 and below, I guarantee it.

 

[crisium]

They could still do a Titan Xv on GV102/big ampere with 5376 cores and GDDR6, priced around $1.2-$1.5k. And then a slightly cutdown Ti at 4864 or 5120 cores. They can still do the normal cycle, basically, just with this sitting there for the actual professionals.

 

[PeterScott]

They could still do a Titan Xv on GV102/big ampere with 5376 cores and GDDR6, priced around $1.2-$1.5k. And then a slightly cutdown Ti at 4864 or 5120 cores. They can still do the normal cycle, basically, just with this sitting there for the actual professionals.

Nah, it will be $2000 for the next gaming Titan Xv, and some brainwashed nerds will act like it's a bargain.

NVidia just keeps pushing GPU prices higher and some nerds just keep enabling them, in this abusive relationship.

 

[Yotsugi]

NVidia just keeps pushing GPU prices higher and some nerds just keep enabling them, in this abusive relationship.

Well, it's SGI 2.0 for a reason.
Let's hope they won't die like SGI.

 

[Ajay]

Its barely faster than GP102 in FP32.
For all intends and purposes, that's not a consumer card.

Really great for lower budget engineering/university projects, assuming the Tensor unit is intact.
NV likes to have an 'entry level' AIB for such purposes to ensure there are programmers with experience in their latest technologies.

 

[Yotsugi]

Really great for lower budget engineering/university projects, assuming the Tensor unit is intact.

They are, official spec sheet states 640 Tensor Cores.
The thing is actually quite good for home/personal ML/DL workstation.
Shame about only ~650GB/s BW.

 

[moonbogg]

I can see the gaming version of Titan being $2,000 as mentioned above. What they do with the Ti version though will matter to most high end gamers. There is an adoption curve which depends on price. I don't know what it looks like, but going much past existing Ti pricing will just result in less and less cards selling. I know its going to be fast and great and unchallenged and all that good stuff, but people only have so much money or willingness to spend it on a GPU that's going to be out dated in 18 months. We'll see next year if the new Ti is priced sanely. Here's to hoping because I'd like to buy one for sure, but I won't support this constant price creep. I hope the price of this Titan V is an exception due to the fancy Tensor cores and HBM2.

 

[Glo.]

Gaming version? This is the same release pattern as previous generation.

Titan X released - cut down version.
Titan Xp - full version.
GTX 1080 ti - a little cut down, but higher clocked version of cut down Titan X.

Now we have Titan V - which is cut down version, of full chip.

 

[Yotsugi]

Gaming version? This is the same release pattern as previous generation.

Titan X released - cut down version.
Titan Xp - full version.
GTX 1080 ti - a little cut down, but higher clocked version of cut down Titan X.

Now we have Titan V - which is cut down version, of full chip.

Eh, no.
Not even close.
This thing uses the actual GPGPU die, just like OG Titan did.

 

[Glo.]

Eh, no.
Not even close.
This thing uses the actual GPGPU die, just like OG Titan did.

If the GV100 GPU was meant to be used in gaming market - it is 1:1 the same scenario.

GP100 chip was not in Consumer branding: Titan. Only Quadro. Volta GV100 has consumer branding: Titan.

 

[Yotsugi]

If the GV100 GPU was meant to be used in gaming market - it is 1:1 the same scenario.

GP100 chip was not in Consumer branding: Titan. Only Quadro. Volta GV100 has consumer branding: Titan.

Chip with 1/2 FP64 and meme cores is not intended for gaming at all.
Titan V is positioned at "your personal AI super-duper card".
Totally unrelated to gaming.

 

[AdamK47]

I'm very very interested in seeing gaming benchmarks with two of these cards in SLI. I may have gone mainstream with motherboard and CPU, but I intend to stay high end when it comes to GPUs.

 

[Dayman1225]

Titan V appears on FSU.

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/14371444

This is all at stock freshly installed, I know the person that ran it

 

[Malogeek]

I'm very very interested in seeing gaming benchmarks with two of these cards in SLI. I may have gone mainstream with motherboard and CPU, but I intend to stay high end when it comes to GPUs.

They're a bit ridiculous for any gaming? The SMs aren't as efficient for FP32 as GP102/4 SM design (1/2 the FP32 per SM). Surely a high end Volta (GV102?) gaming GPU will be far more efficient per mm2, not to mention cost.

 

[Dayman1225]

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/23846725?

Timespy results

his TXP to compare

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/1538518

 

[Arachnotronic]

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/23846725?

Timespy results

his TXP to compare

https://www.3dmark.com/spy/1538518

Oh. It might be worse than Titan Xp for gaming.

 

[Dayman1225]

https://www.3dmark.com/3dm/23846835

Fire strike run

 

[AdamK47]

Titan V appears on FSU.

https://www.3dmark.com/fs/14371444

This is all at stock freshly installed, I know the person that ran it

Decided to disable SLI and run a single Titan Xp in the same test. 8700K @ 4.7GHz, DDR4 @ 3600, and the Titan Xp @ +100 core / +500 memory (12400).

Here is the comparison: https://www.3dmark.com/compare/fs/14371650/fs/14371444

That ancient 6700K setup is keeping up well with that Titan V installed.