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Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Creig
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Only a few in the boundary of this thread. If you go elsewhere, the conversations with Rollo are with perfectly polite people. In here, it's only the hardcore who want Rollo gone.
Creig is making a career out of it. I have noticed that not many people from this thread have bothered to participate in the community combat thread I started. I guess those with mob mentalities don't mix well with actually being a part of a community.

At any rate, carry on mobsters. ;)

I believe I already responded to you concerning your "Community Combat" thread and thanked you for inviting me, but I don't own CoD, CoD2 or UT. So I didn't see any reason to post in the thread.

As far as "making a career out of it", this is not the sole thread I post in. But I (and others) have put up with Rollo's anti-social behavior long enough and I don't intend to simply let the matter slide this time.

After Rollo returned from his two week ban for excessive flaming I left him alone. Even moreso, I extended an olive branch by defending his opinions against others when I felt his post had merit. I had my misgivings, but was willing to let past hostilies remain in the past. Unfortunately, my intuition proved true and he reverted to his usual aggressive posting style once he was certain it was safe to resume doing so.

If I didn't feel as strongly as I do, I wouldn't be posting here. But I am convinced that banning Rollo would be giant first step in restoring this forum. His secret receiving of free video cards from a company paid to increase nVidia sales only further proves that Rollo should no longer be able to post within these forums.

But by all means, keep making fun of me if you feel that's proper. I have nothing against you except your inexplicable steadfast loyalty towards Rollo.

I am not making fun of you Creig. What I meant by that was, you are taking this thing farther than most. It seems you have a portfolio of posts that Rollo made and were saving them for just such an occasion.

BTW,
We now have CoD,CoD2,UT,BF2 (UT2004 coming shortly) and a Teamspeak Server.
As more people contribute, more servers will be available. Go have fun.

 

Creig

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I'm glad he is back. He has the best info sources for us on the nvidia side

He's also receiving free hardware from a company contracted to increase nVidia sales. That makes him an advertiser which is against the Forums Terms Of Service.
 

Creig

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I am not making fun of you Creig.

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I guess those with mob mentalities don't mix well with actually being a part of a community.

At any rate, carry on mobsters.

Sure looks like you're taking a poke at me.


Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
What I meant by that was, you are taking this thing farther than most. It seems you have a portfolio of posts that Rollo made and were saving them for just such an occasion.

I have no need to keep a Rollo portfolio. A simple search of the forums easily brings up multiple examples of Rollo's inappropriate behavior.


Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
BTW,
We now have CoD,CoD2,UT,BF2 (UT2004 coming shortly) and a Teamspeak Server.
As more people contribute, more servers will be available. Go have fun.

I don't own BF2, either. I don't play a lot of online games.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Creig
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I'm glad he is back. He has the best info sources for us on the nvidia side

He's also receiving free hardware from a company contracted to increase nVidia sales. That makes him an advertiser which is against the Forums Terms Of Service.

I thought he received the hardware to evaluate and share with everyone here? Which he has done. You say tom'ah'to, and I say tom'ay'to. Show me one shred of evidence where he was forced to say positive things only about the hardware. You can't. And until you can, you or anybody else can't say for sure that Rollo wasn't posting his own mind about these products. ATI or Nvidia. So, there you have it. /thread.

 

NightTrain

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I know this is a long thread, but it has been propagandized to no end. People weren't banned for accusing Rollo of being associated with AEG. It is the abusive way they went about it. Why you people cant get your minds around this, I have no idea. The only thing I can think of is that it sounds a lot worse to say "People were banned "Just" for accusing Rollo of being AEG and he was the whole time!!!" rather then to say, "Those people were banned because of the foul and abusive content in both thread posts, and PM's to Rollo." Name some people who were banned or vacationed and I'll look up the conversations if they are still available. I can't get hold of the PM's of course unless Rollo still has them and would give them up.

So, don't believe everything you hear from the mob. They want it to be 1000x worse than it really is, and they hate Rollo even if they say, "I don't hate Rollo, I just want justice." A bigger crock of BS you will not find in this forum.

Give me some names.


Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: linkgoron
Oh, what does QFP mean?

It means Quoted For Permanence, because the last four "smart guys" who threw that "Wah- you're an AEG fanboy stuff" at me were banned, forced to remove it.

I wanted to be sure the mods could see just how "clever" you are Linkgoron! Take it as a compliment!

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=31&threadid=1769690&enterthread=y
 

Creig

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I thought he received the hardware to evaluate and share with everyone here?
The fact you keep deliberately ignoring is that AEG is NOT a hardware evaluation company but a PR company whose sole aim is to increase their clients sales.

Posted quote on the AEG website from: Derek Perez, PR Director, NVIDIA
"AEG serves a pivotal role in helping us to build and manage online buzz for NVIDIA products. AEG?s online community outreach programs have been extraordinarily successful in improving public perception of our company and its products. So much so that we've recently expanded AEG's role into some of our other product lines. AEG plays an essential role in our marketing and public relations programs. In our opinion, they?re the best-of-breed experts in the field of online PR and community management."
http://www.aeginfo.com/


Please point out where Mr. Perez mentions the valuable hardware evaluation services that AEG provides. You can't.

It's pointless to keep trying to convince everybody that the only reason Rollo was given free hardware was to share his results. The proof speaks otherwise.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: crazydingo
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
/thread.
You wish.

In case you missed the title of this thread, it doesnt have Rollo in it. ;) :D

And in case you missed the actual content of the thread, Rollo's name comes up more than AEG. :D

 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Creig
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I thought he received the hardware to evaluate and share with everyone here?
The fact you keep deliberately ignoring is that AEG is NOT a hardware evaluation company but a PR company whose sole aim is to increase their clients sales.

Posted quote on the AEG website from: Derek Perez, PR Director, NVIDIA
"AEG serves a pivotal role in helping us to build and manage online buzz for NVIDIA products. AEG?s online community outreach programs have been extraordinarily successful in improving public perception of our company and its products. So much so that we've recently expanded AEG's role into some of our other product lines. AEG plays an essential role in our marketing and public relations programs. In our opinion, they?re the best-of-breed experts in the field of online PR and community management."
http://www.aeginfo.com/


Please point out where Mr. Perez mentions the valuable hardware evaluation services that AEG provides. You can't.

It's pointless to keep trying to convince everybody that the only reason Rollo was given free hardware was to share his results. The proof speaks otherwise.

Thank you for proving my point AND yours. You can't prove, and I can't disprove. Stalemate. Nowhere in your link does it say, "We coerce our members to say only positive things about our clients products.".

 

nRollo

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I don't think we're going to solve anything here.

If the mods feel I've violated TOS, I'm sure they will ban me.

If not, I suggest we all try to peacefully co-exist.

Being angry at each other only benefits whoever makes your favorite antacid.

This is a pretty good example of a phenomenon I notice more and more in this country:
As we become more prosperous and worrying about the necessities of life is unnecessary, we associate ourselves with causes that are laughable at best.

You have people protesting fishing, because it may hurt the fish.

You have people destroying fur coats because dead rodents once owned the fur.

You have people protesting eating meat because it hurts the animals to be killed.

And now some protest video card user groups that may be designed in the hopes users of engineering samples may post about the use. If you told a guy in a country where you have to worry about your next meal your big concern these days is whether or not a video card manufacturer was unethical in giving cards to enthusiasts and that you had actually spent time protesting this, they would laugh for a month.

If you told somebody who looked at video cards like any other consumer good, say hammers or clock radios, that you are concerned someone's posts may have been influenced by a free video card, they would probably laugh for a while.

The problem with this thread, and all this uproar, is at the bottom of it are very small issues that mean very little in the world and are subject to interpretation.
 

ronnn

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Thank you for proving my point AND yours. You can't prove, and I can't disprove. Stalemate. Nowhere in your link does it say, "We coerce our members to say only positive things about our clients products.".

AEG will Amplify positive buzz, Elevate consumer mindshare and Generate extensive coverage of your company and its products.

From AEG themselves.



 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Thank you for proving my point AND yours. You can't prove, and I can't disprove. Stalemate. Nowhere in your link does it say, "We coerce our members to say only positive things about our clients products.".

AEG will Amplify positive buzz, Elevate consumer mindshare and Generate extensive coverage of your company and its products.

From AEG themselves.

Oh well. A PR firm promises to generate PR?

Heavens to betsy! Call the National Guard.

Like I said above, even if all your darkest fears WERE true, this is outcry is pretty sad.

I mean, as an AT user, how is your life affected by this Ronnn?

When I said "I like nVidia products" for years before I got some free, did you listen to me? No? Why not dude? What about these "brilliant marketing skills" and "huge influence" I'm supposed to have?

After they gave me some cards to use, and I posted I liked the cards, did you listen?

So just what changed in your mind Ronnn?

Fact of the matter is I'm just a guy who likes video cards that got access to the same type of info/samples/software web reviewers get. I don't think anyone outside a video forum could do anything but laugh at your concern?

Tell your dad if he's around yet.
"So you're all bent out of shape some guy you don't know, and never cared about anyway, said he got some cards discounted from the manufacturer, and he really got them free from their ad agency? I see."
<SMACK!>
"I taught you better!"
 

crazydingo

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: crazydingo
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
/thread.
You wish.

In case you missed the title of this thread, it doesnt have Rollo in it. ;) :D

And in case you missed the actual content of the thread, Rollo's name comes up more than AEG. :D
So, does that mean this thread is about Rollo? Read the title again. ;)

Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Thank you for proving my point AND yours. You can't prove, and I can't disprove. Stalemate. Nowhere in your link does it say, "We coerce our members to say only positive things about our clients products.".

AEG will Amplify positive buzz, Elevate consumer mindshare and Generate extensive coverage of your company and its products.

From AEG themselves.
Shame on you ronn! Dont you know AEG is involved in "beta-testing" .. :D

(Atleast that is what AEG and its members have been to shove it off as)
 

RobertR1

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Thank you for proving my point AND yours. You can't prove, and I can't disprove. Stalemate. Nowhere in your link does it say, "We coerce our members to say only positive things about our clients products.".

AEG will Amplify positive buzz, Elevate consumer mindshare and Generate extensive coverage of your company and its products.

From AEG themselves.

Oh well. A PR firm promises to generate PR?

Heavens to betsy! Call the National Guard.

Like I said above, even if all your darkest fears WERE true, this is outcry is pretty sad.

I mean, as an AT user, how is your life affected by this Ronnn?

When I said "I like nVidia products" for years before I got some free, did you listen to me? No? Why not dude? What about these "brilliant marketing skills" and "huge influence" I'm supposed to have?

After they gave me some cards to use, and I posted I liked the cards, did you listen?

So just what changed in your mind Ronnn?

Fact of the matter is I'm just a guy who likes video cards that got access to the same type of info/samples/software web reviewers get. I don't think anyone outside a video forum could do anything but laugh at your concern?

Tell your dad if he's around yet.
"So you're all bent out of shape some guy you don't know, and never cared about anyway, said he got some cards discounted from the manufacturer, and he really got them free from their ad agency? I see."
<SMACK!>
"I taught you better!"


So now it's finally getting to the stage where you're admitting that it's just a PR firm and your job is to create buzz? Cool..... Only took about 2000 posts to get ever so close to the truth.

A reviewer is upfront about their means of obtaining hardware, you were not. Perhaps another 2000 will help you grasp that also.
 

ronnn

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Thank you for proving my point AND yours. You can't prove, and I can't disprove. Stalemate. Nowhere in your link does it say, "We coerce our members to say only positive things about our clients products.".

AEG will Amplify positive buzz, Elevate consumer mindshare and Generate extensive coverage of your company and its products.

From AEG themselves.

Oh well. A PR firm promises to generate PR?

Heavens to betsy! Call the National Guard.

Like I said above, even if all your darkest fears WERE true, this is outcry is pretty sad.

I mean, as an AT user, how is your life affected by this Ronnn?

When I said "I like nVidia products" for years before I got some free, did you listen to me? No? Why not dude? What about these "brilliant marketing skills" and "huge influence" I'm supposed to have?

After they gave me some cards to use, and I posted I liked the cards, did you listen?

So just what changed in your mind Ronnn?

Fact of the matter is I'm just a guy who likes video cards that got access to the same type of info/samples/software web reviewers get. I don't think anyone outside a video forum could do anything but laugh at your concern?

Tell your dad if he's around yet.
"So you're all bent out of shape some guy you don't know, and never cared about anyway, said he got some cards discounted from the manufacturer, and he really got them free from their ad agency? I see."
<SMACK!>
"I taught you better!"

All this to attack my dad? Very bizzare.

 

NightTrain

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Originally posted by: Rollo here.
If the mods feel I've violated TOS, I'm sure they will ban me.

Re-read the thread I linked. Don't you feel even the slightest bit of embarrassment at your "performance" in that thread? Threatening people for even *hinting* that you were AEG? And all the while you *knew* they were right yet had the unmitigated gall to continue a charade of self-righteous indignation. I would find another forum without being asked if I had shredded my credibility to even a fraction of the degree you've managed.
 

ArchAngel777

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Originally posted by: NightTrain
Originally posted by: Rollo here.
If the mods feel I've violated TOS, I'm sure they will ban me.

Re-read the thread I linked. Don't you feel even the slightest bit of embarrassment at your "performance" in that thread? Threatening people for even *hinting* that you were AEG? And all the while you *knew* they were right yet had the unmitigated gall to continue a charade of self-righteous indignation. I would find another forum without being asked if I had shredded my credibility to even a fraction of the degree you've managed.

QFT
 

kki000

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Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: Rollo
Originally posted by: ronnn
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Thank you for proving my point AND yours. You can't prove, and I can't disprove. Stalemate. Nowhere in your link does it say, "We coerce our members to say only positive things about our clients products.".

AEG will Amplify positive buzz, Elevate consumer mindshare and Generate extensive coverage of your company and its products.

From AEG themselves.

Oh well. A PR firm promises to generate PR?

Heavens to betsy! Call the National Guard.

Like I said above, even if all your darkest fears WERE true, this is outcry is pretty sad.

I mean, as an AT user, how is your life affected by this Ronnn?

When I said "I like nVidia products" for years before I got some free, did you listen to me? No? Why not dude? What about these "brilliant marketing skills" and "huge influence" I'm supposed to have?

After they gave me some cards to use, and I posted I liked the cards, did you listen?

So just what changed in your mind Ronnn?

Fact of the matter is I'm just a guy who likes video cards that got access to the same type of info/samples/software web reviewers get. I don't think anyone outside a video forum could do anything but laugh at your concern?

Tell your dad if he's around yet.
"So you're all bent out of shape some guy you don't know, and never cared about anyway, said he got some cards discounted from the manufacturer, and he really got them free from their ad agency? I see."
<SMACK!>
"I taught you better!"

All this to attack my dad? Very bizzare.

He pulls this crap all the time.
His mind is still stuck in grade school. He has no leg to stand on, so he thinks attacking your parents is "kool".
 

Lifted

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Originally posted by: Rollo

Fact of the matter is I'm just a guy who likes video cards that got access to the same type of info/samples/software web reviewers get. I don't think anyone outside a video forum could do anything but laugh at your concern?

Tell your dad if he's around yet.
"So you're all bent out of shape some guy you don't know, and never cared about anyway, said he got some cards discounted from the manufacturer, and he really got them free from their ad agency? I see."
<SMACK!>
"I taught you better!"

The funniest thing is that after all that's happened, and with all the love Rollo has for nvidia, he seems to be out to make this blow up in their face.

:laugh:
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Rollo
Tell your dad if he's around yet.
"So you're all bent out of shape some guy you don't know, and never cared about anyway, said he got some cards discounted from the manufacturer, and he really got them free from their ad agency? I see."
<SMACK!>
"I taught you better!"
If that doesn't violate the TOS, I don't know what does.

It's a miracle that you wonder why people don't like you, Rollo. It's not a "minority", as some would have you believe, either. If Mr. Burns took what Smithers said as the gospel, he'd probably have quite the ego.

Unfortunately you're not Mr. Burns and keysplayr only acts like Smithers. He seems convinced though, if that means anything to you.
 

nRollo

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Originally posted by: RobertR1
So now it's finally getting to the stage where you're admitting that it's just a PR firm and your job is to create buzz? Cool..... Only took about 2000 posts to get ever so close to the truth.

A reviewer is upfront about their means of obtaining hardware, you were not. Perhaps another 2000 will help you grasp that also.

Errrr, if you can extract what you said from what I said, what I say won't matter much.

Apparently you just look at whatever I type and say "Aha! So you admit to all my accusations" when I haven't even come close to doing anything of the kind.

Good luck with that! :)
 
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