Nvidia viral marketing with AEG exposed !!! *UPDATED* *Poll Added*

[Acanthus]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Witchfire
I don't have any anger toward you, Rollo. I think your dishonesty and subterfuge was uncalled for, and that you DO deserve a ban, if at least a temporary one. I'm calling it like I see it. I'm not about animosity, I'm about honesty. If you look upon my opinions as a personal attack, and an expression of hatred, then so be it. That's not where my opinion stems from.

I agree.

Every member ever banned by Rollo needs to be allowed back with the title "Reinstated Member", even if it's Turtle1.

Then Rollo needs the custom title "Slave of the Reinstated", and his threads can be locked by the Reinstated Members.

IMO these are the only conditions that should allow Rollo to remain here.

Once again, it is important to note that the only person rollo got banned was Zinn2b/Intelia/Turtle1 and his various other alts. I, nor many others want this douche on our forums, although im sure hes back with a 6th or 7th alt and posting in this thread.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: Crusader
Insiders are great additons to any forum, and it would be nice if we could get a glimpse of true insider battles so we could learn even more.
In fact, B3D has the MOST insiders and its the MOST respected of all enthusiast forums!

Veritas vos liberabit!

B3D is also a great place because of MODERATION, a "Rollo" wouldnt survive a second there.

I judge him off of the information he brings and the services he provides, which are directly from Nvidia.

I welcome people with direct access to ATI as well. Lets get the juicy details from every camp as early as possible.
Plug me into Orton and Huangs mind.
Unless you are not here for valid information, but rather pointless fanboy fodder?

Its clear that B3D is the most respected enthusiast forum, and has the most authentic ATI/NV employees.
Rollo is our only known corporate connection, and to discourage ATI and Nvidia from sending more here is what will kill this forum.. also not moderating this ridiculous AEG/marketing discussion (by banning all of you who continue to make it an issue when its a fact of life that you cant do anything about, short of shutting down all forums.. in which Anandtech will lose MASSIVE revenue from the hits these forums bring in).

Its about money, and pitting NV/ATI insiders against each other is the best way to exploit the system to our advantage to learn more information about our hobby.. while raising respect and awareness of the AT forums (if this is where the real gurus are at from ATI/NV.. this will pretty much be the place to be, like B3D is today).

Why do you this has pretty much blown over at B3D? Because they pretty much see things my way.

If AT doesnt, and they allow your mob to burn this place down.. this forum wont even be #2.

We need hits, we need insiders, we as forum members want valid and insider information.

Okay, its fine for Rollo to flame other people "beacuse he has the insider info" but us mere peons can't flame him back. Yeah...You're prolly not an alt account, but seriously, think about that for a sec.

 

[Killrose]

Crusader you are new here. You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread. He went from a "vauled opinion member" to starting thread posts aimed at tainting ATi with anything he could dig up. It was sad to see and be witness too, but all too true.

He was evidently too week to resist the powers of free hardware in exchange for posting negative info when he saw a chance. Youa re certainly welcome to defend him all you like, but you are a new member and we here do not value your judgment.

 

[imported_Crusader]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: Crusader
Insiders are great additons to any forum, and it would be nice if we could get a glimpse of true insider battles so we could learn even more.
In fact, B3D has the MOST insiders and its the MOST respected of all enthusiast forums!

Veritas vos liberabit!

B3D is also a great place because of MODERATION, a "Rollo" wouldnt survive a second there.

I judge him off of the information he brings and the services he provides, which are directly from Nvidia.

I welcome people with direct access to ATI as well. Lets get the juicy details from every camp as early as possible.
Plug me into Orton and Huangs mind.
Unless you are not here for valid information, but rather pointless fanboy fodder?

Its clear that B3D is the most respected enthusiast forum, and has the most authentic ATI/NV employees.
Rollo is our only known corporate connection, and to discourage ATI and Nvidia from sending more here is what will kill this forum.. also not moderating this ridiculous AEG/marketing discussion (by banning all of you who continue to make it an issue when its a fact of life that you cant do anything about, short of shutting down all forums.. in which Anandtech will lose MASSIVE revenue from the hits these forums bring in).

Its about money, and pitting NV/ATI insiders against each other is the best way to exploit the system to our advantage to learn more information about our hobby.. while raising respect and awareness of the AT forums (if this is where the real gurus are at from ATI/NV.. this will pretty much be the place to be, like B3D is today).

Why do you this has pretty much blown over at B3D? Because they pretty much see things my way.

If AT doesnt, and they allow your mob to burn this place down.. this forum wont even be #2.

We need hits, we need insiders, we as forum members want valid and insider information.

Okay, its fine for Rollo to flame other people "beacuse he has the insider info" but us mere peons can't flame him back. Yeah...You're prolly not an alt account, but seriously, think about that for a sec.

Dude, anybody that flames needs to be punished. I didnt know Rollo was vacationed but i'm sure he deserved it.. just like anyone would.

He doesnt deserve preferential status from AnandTech because he recieves discounted Nvidia hardware.. but he doesnt deserve to be PUNISHED for that either.
There are so many people who get free or cheap hardware from ATI or Nvidia.. everyone is being bought off.. that will never stop.
But the truth will ALWAYS defeat a marketer.. but if the marketer is right, then more power to him.

As far as flames and offtopic conversation.. something I've been trying to point out is the real root of the problem on this forum.. should be dealt with in a fair and just manner.. all as equals.

 

[Leper Messiah]

The thing I don't understand I guess is why everyone has to be so...acidic. Both sides, the holly rollos and the witch hunters. Someone needs to rent out a stadium, drop in a wrestling ring and let you guys beat the sh1t out of eachother while the actual sane people here carry on a decent convo.

So this is my point to both sides. STFU.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: Crusader
Insiders are great additons to any forum, and it would be nice if we could get a glimpse of true insider battles so we could learn even more.
In fact, B3D has the MOST insiders and its the MOST respected of all enthusiast forums!

Veritas vos liberabit!

B3D is also a great place because of MODERATION, a "Rollo" wouldnt survive a second there.

I judge him off of the information he brings and the services he provides, which are directly from Nvidia.

I welcome people with direct access to ATI as well. Lets get the juicy details from every camp as early as possible.
Plug me into Orton and Huangs mind.
Unless you are not here for valid information, but rather pointless fanboy fodder?

Its clear that B3D is the most respected enthusiast forum, and has the most authentic ATI/NV employees.
Rollo is our only known corporate connection, and to discourage ATI and Nvidia from sending more here is what will kill this forum.. also not moderating this ridiculous AEG/marketing discussion (by banning all of you who continue to make it an issue when its a fact of life that you cant do anything about, short of shutting down all forums.. in which Anandtech will lose MASSIVE revenue from the hits these forums bring in).

Its about money, and pitting NV/ATI insiders against each other is the best way to exploit the system to our advantage to learn more information about our hobby.. while raising respect and awareness of the AT forums (if this is where the real gurus are at from ATI/NV.. this will pretty much be the place to be, like B3D is today).

Why do you this has pretty much blown over at B3D? Because they pretty much see things my way.

If AT doesnt, and they allow your mob to burn this place down.. this forum wont even be #2.

We need hits, we need insiders, we as forum members want valid and insider information.

Okay, its fine for Rollo to flame other people "beacuse he has the insider info" but us mere peons can't flame him back. Yeah...You're prolly not an alt account, but seriously, think about that for a sec.

Dude, anybody that flames needs to be punished. I didnt know Rollo was vacationed but i'm sure he deserved it.. just like anyone would.

He doesnt deserve preferential status from AnandTech because he recieves discounted Nvidia hardware.. but he doesnt deserve to be PUNISHED for that either.
There are so many people who get free or cheap hardware from ATI or Nvidia.. everyone is being bought off.. that will never stop.
But the truth will ALWAYS defeat a marketer.. but if the marketer is right, then more power to him.

As far as flames and offtopic conversation.. something I've been trying to point out is the real root of the problem on this forum.. should be dealt with in a fair and just manner.. all as equals.

I'm just pointing out how you judge him on the info he supposedly supplies, whereas he(and everyone else) should be judged both on the info they may or may not give and their posting style, and Rollo's has been amongst the most acidic. I and others have called him out on it before, to no avail. People have been calling for his ban even before this whole AEG crap went down.

 

[imported_Crusader]

Originally posted by: Killrose
Crusader you are new here. You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread. He went from a "vauled opinion member" to starting thread posts aimed at tainting ATi with anything he could dig up. It was sad to see and be witness too, but all too true.

He was evidently too week to resist the powers of free hardware in exchange for posting negative info when he saw a chance. Youa re certainly welcome to defend him all you like, but you are a new member and we here do not value your judgment.

Ah so because I'm "new" that means you will discount my judgement? Or do you discount it because you dont like what you are reading?

Unfortunately, B3D agrees with my general sentiment.. and you do not.

We need hits, we need insiders, we as forum members want valid and insider information.. that will never change, and you are not the way to that future.

Maybe some new and different point of views are EXACTLY what this limping forum needs. Thats why I joined, you guys are too concerned about-

Originally posted by: Killrose
You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread.

and you cant see beyond your nose.

What is important here isnt what is good for you and your feelings, but what is good for the overall community and Anandtechs profitability and credibility.

B3D has more insiders, more credibility. Hits=profit. More insiders=better reputation ala B3D=more hits.

I am not here to hurt your feelings Killrose. But that registeration date next to your name does not make you right.

If you would go after my ideas, you might earn some respect. Thats all I ask, face Rollo like men and defeat him in technical discussion.

Face me like men, and tell me why my logic is wrong.. besides you are angry at Rollo for past actions in which BOTH camps are complacent in, and probably deserved bans for participating in.

Moderation is the answer. Ban anyone who goes OffTopic, from my observation this should have been done here at ATVideo a long time ago.

Defeat marketers that you cant stop anyway by letting TRUTH rise.

 

[rbV5]

I am not here to hurt your feelings Killrose. But that registeration date next to your name does not make you right.

If you would go after my ideas, you might earn some respect.

I'm a long time member, and I have alot of respect for Killrose because he's a decent guy and a good helpfull member here at AT, something he has "earned" over the years. If you truely were a lurker, you'd know it. You're wrong, and your opinion of some of the good members are worth less than the price you payed to become a member...play nice or go away.

 

[imported_Crusader]

Originally posted by: rbV5

I am not here to hurt your feelings Killrose. But that registeration date next to your name does not make you right.

If you would go after my ideas, you might earn some respect.

I'm a long time member, and I have alot of respect for Killrose because he's a decent guy and a good helpfull member here at AT, something he has "earned" over the years. If you truely were a lurker, you'd know it. You're wrong, and your opinion of some of the good members are worth less than the price you payed to become a member...play nice or go away.

I am playing nice. I have said nothing that wasnt true.

Attack ideas, not people.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: Killrose
Crusader you are new here. You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread. He went from a "vauled opinion member" to starting thread posts aimed at tainting ATi with anything he could dig up. It was sad to see and be witness too, but all too true.

He was evidently too week to resist the powers of free hardware in exchange for posting negative info when he saw a chance. Youa re certainly welcome to defend him all you like, but you are a new member and we here do not value your judgment.

Ah so because I'm "new" that means you will discount my judgement? Or do you discount it because you dont like what you are reading?

Unfortunately, B3D agrees with my general sentiment.. and you do not.

We need hits, we need insiders, we as forum members want valid and insider information.. that will never change, and you are not the way to that future.

Maybe some new and different point of views are EXACTLY what this limping forum needs. Thats why I joined, you guys are too concerned about-

Originally posted by: Killrose
You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread.

and you cant see beyond your nose.

What is important here isnt what is good for you and your feelings, but what is good for the overall community and Anandtechs profitability and credibility.

B3D has more insiders, more credibility. Hits=profit. More insiders=better reputation ala B3D=more hits.

I am not here to hurt your feelings Killrose. But that registeration date next to your name does not make you right.

If you would go after my ideas, you might earn some respect. Thats all I ask, face Rollo like men and defeat him in technical discussion.

Face me like men, and tell me why my logic is wrong.. besides you are angry at Rollo for past actions in which BOTH camps are complacent in, and probably deserved bans for participating in.

Moderation is the answer. Ban anyone who goes OffTopic, from my observation this should have been done here at ATVideo a long time ago.

Defeat marketers that you cant stop anyway by letting TRUTH rise.

You're starting to sound like the Hitler of forums. Ban anyone who goes OffTopic? Sure you can ruin the forums by running it as a dictatorship, but the community as a whole is a great community with a few shills who ruin it. That doesn't mean that we're perfect. People go offtopic and it's going to happen as. People are people..and it's in their mature to think outside the box. Don't limit what people say unless it turns into personal attacks or so offtopic that it ruins the threads. That's why we have moderators. They moderate, but they don't RULE. While it's not a perfect world, it works for most people and they keep coming back. IF you limit everything they say and you try to control people, they will end up leaving. No one wants corporate shills trashing the competition. It's like trying to go to a Ford dealership run by GM people. Who the hell wants that?

I find it funny that some noob comes in here telling us how the forums should be run, but has never contributed anything worthy. Yes, because you are new and do not understand how things are run here, your voice isn't going to be listen to. Live with it.

 

[imported_Crusader]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: Killrose
Crusader you are new here. You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread. He went from a "vauled opinion member" to starting thread posts aimed at tainting ATi with anything he could dig up. It was sad to see and be witness too, but all too true.

He was evidently too week to resist the powers of free hardware in exchange for posting negative info when he saw a chance. Youa re certainly welcome to defend him all you like, but you are a new member and we here do not value your judgment.

Ah so because I'm "new" that means you will discount my judgement? Or do you discount it because you dont like what you are reading?

Unfortunately, B3D agrees with my general sentiment.. and you do not.

We need hits, we need insiders, we as forum members want valid and insider information.. that will never change, and you are not the way to that future.

Maybe some new and different point of views are EXACTLY what this limping forum needs. Thats why I joined, you guys are too concerned about-

Originally posted by: Killrose
You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread.

and you cant see beyond your nose.

What is important here isnt what is good for you and your feelings, but what is good for the overall community and Anandtechs profitability and credibility.

B3D has more insiders, more credibility. Hits=profit. More insiders=better reputation ala B3D=more hits.

I am not here to hurt your feelings Killrose. But that registeration date next to your name does not make you right.

If you would go after my ideas, you might earn some respect. Thats all I ask, face Rollo like men and defeat him in technical discussion.

Face me like men, and tell me why my logic is wrong.. besides you are angry at Rollo for past actions in which BOTH camps are complacent in, and probably deserved bans for participating in.

Moderation is the answer. Ban anyone who goes OffTopic, from my observation this should have been done here at ATVideo a long time ago.

Defeat marketers that you cant stop anyway by letting TRUTH rise.

You're starting to sound like the Hitler of forums. Ban anyone who goes OffTopic? Sure you can ruin the forums by running it as a dictatorship, but the community as a whole is a great community with a few shills who ruin it. That doesn't mean that we're perfect. People go offtopic and it's going to happen as. People are people..and it's in their mature to think outside the box. Don't limit what people say unless it turns into personal attacks or so offtopic that it ruins the threads. That's why we have moderators. They moderate, but they don't RULE. While it's not a perfect world, it works for most people and they keep coming back. IF you limit everything they say and you try to control people, they will end up leaving. No one wants corporate shills trashing the competition. It's like trying to go to a Ford dealership run by GM people. Who the hell wants that?

I find it funny that some noob comes in here telling us how the forums should be run, but has never contributed anything worthy. Yes, because you are new and do not understand how things are run here, your voice isn't going to be listen to. Live with it.

Its very clearly being listened too. I'm making a difference and doing the right thing by finally participating. This is unjust and you will have to live with that.

Offtopic and flame posts are why this forum has lost a lot of its appeal to many people. Whether you want to recognize this, and recognize that pushing this "AEG witchhunt" is part of the problem.. is up to you.

It has nothing to do with my and my "newness" it has everything to do about the truth of the matter.

BTW, moderators do indeed rule you. Just as Anand rules them. This is not a democracy. This is a business. Americans get their way of life and government mixed up with everythng else in the world, this is a business. Plain and simple.

My ideas are merely suggestions, yes, this AEG thing is out of control. Bans on everyone who continues to make it an issue is a totally plausible idea.. because while "Rollos" cant be controlled nor stopped... OffTopic posting can be stopped.
And marketing lies will be exposed like any other lie, no ridiculous witch hunt that cant stop it needs to be taking place.

 

[crazydingo]

Originally posted by: Crusader
Ah so because I'm "new" that means you will discount my judgement? Or do you discount it because you dont like what you are reading?

No we discount your judgement because it is skewed. You pov is overtly self-centric. YOU know that viral marketing goes on, YOU know that Nvidia-AEG tie up exists and YOU dont care. Doesnt mean the rest shouldnt.

Originally posted by: Crusader
Unfortunately, B3D agrees with my general sentiment.. and you do not.

We need hits, we need insiders, we as forum members want valid and insider information.. that will never change, and you are not the way to that future.

Maybe some new and different point of views are EXACTLY what this limping forum needs. Thats why I joined, you guys are too concerned about-

LMAO, you are going OT by bringing "we need hits" logic. Just an FYI, AT forums get significantly more hits (almost 3 times) than B3D forums. So another one of your argument goes out of the window. This place needs MODERATION.

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: Killrose
You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread.

and you cant see beyond your nose.

What is important here isnt what is good for you and your feelings, but what is good for the overall community and Anandtechs profitability and credibility.

B3D has more insiders, more credibility. Hits=profit. More insiders=better reputation ala B3D=more hits.

I am not here to hurt your feelings Killrose. But that registeration date next to your name does not make you right.

If you would go after my ideas, you might earn some respect. Thats all I ask, face Rollo like men and defeat him in technical discussion.

Face me like men, and tell me why my logic is wrong.. besides you are angry at Rollo for past actions in which BOTH camps are complacent in, and probably deserved bans for participating in.

Moderation is the answer. Ban anyone who goes OffTopic, from my observation this should have been done here at ATVideo a long time ago.

Defeat marketers that you cant stop anyway by letting TRUTH rise.

Rollo & FUD are synonyms (atleast to the sensible) here. You can just dig up his posts (plentiful) which are supportive of that. If you cant realise that then I've wasted my time.

"lol" at the hits argument again.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: Killrose
Crusader you are new here. You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread. He went from a "vauled opinion member" to starting thread posts aimed at tainting ATi with anything he could dig up. It was sad to see and be witness too, but all too true.

He was evidently too week to resist the powers of free hardware in exchange for posting negative info when he saw a chance. Youa re certainly welcome to defend him all you like, but you are a new member and we here do not value your judgment.

Ah so because I'm "new" that means you will discount my judgement? Or do you discount it because you dont like what you are reading?

Unfortunately, B3D agrees with my general sentiment.. and you do not.

We need hits, we need insiders, we as forum members want valid and insider information.. that will never change, and you are not the way to that future.

Maybe some new and different point of views are EXACTLY what this limping forum needs. Thats why I joined, you guys are too concerned about-

Originally posted by: Killrose
You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread.

and you cant see beyond your nose.

What is important here isnt what is good for you and your feelings, but what is good for the overall community and Anandtechs profitability and credibility.

B3D has more insiders, more credibility. Hits=profit. More insiders=better reputation ala B3D=more hits.

I am not here to hurt your feelings Killrose. But that registeration date next to your name does not make you right.

If you would go after my ideas, you might earn some respect. Thats all I ask, face Rollo like men and defeat him in technical discussion.

Face me like men, and tell me why my logic is wrong.. besides you are angry at Rollo for past actions in which BOTH camps are complacent in, and probably deserved bans for participating in.

Moderation is the answer. Ban anyone who goes OffTopic, from my observation this should have been done here at ATVideo a long time ago.

Defeat marketers that you cant stop anyway by letting TRUTH rise.

You're starting to sound like the Hitler of forums. Ban anyone who goes OffTopic? Sure you can ruin the forums by running it as a dictatorship, but the community as a whole is a great community with a few shills who ruin it. That doesn't mean that we're perfect. People go offtopic and it's going to happen as. People are people..and it's in their mature to think outside the box. Don't limit what people say unless it turns into personal attacks or so offtopic that it ruins the threads. That's why we have moderators. They moderate, but they don't RULE. While it's not a perfect world, it works for most people and they keep coming back. IF you limit everything they say and you try to control people, they will end up leaving. No one wants corporate shills trashing the competition. It's like trying to go to a Ford dealership run by GM people. Who the hell wants that?

I find it funny that some noob comes in here telling us how the forums should be run, but has never contributed anything worthy. Yes, because you are new and do not understand how things are run here, your voice isn't going to be listen to. Live with it.

Its very clearly being listened too. I'm making a difference and doing the right thing by finally participating. This is unjust and you will have to live with that.

Offtopic and flame posts are why this forum has lost a lot of its appeal to many people. Whether you want to recognize this, and recognize that pushing this "AEG witchhunt" is part of the problem.. is up to you.

It has nothing to do with my and my "newness" it has everything to do about the truth of the matter.

BTW, moderators do indeed rule you. Just as Anand rules them. This is not a democracy. This is a business. Americans get their way of life and government mixed up with everythng else in the world, this is a business. Plain and simple.

My ideas are merely suggestions, yes, this AEG thing is out of control. Bans on everyone who continues to make it an issue is a totally plausible idea.. because while "Rollos" cant be controlled nor stopped... OffTopic posting can be stopped.
And marketing lies will be exposed like any other lie, no ridiculous witch hunt that cant stop it needs to be taking place.

1. No moderator rules me. This is an internet forums. You are putting WAY too much into this. You need to get up, go outside the house and get laid. They do not control anything about my life.

2. How exactly are you making a difference? You haven't done a damn thing. You have 10 post and the forum is the exact same as the day before your egotistical a$$ walked in. You're not a better person and making this place better. It's in your head.

3. There is no "truth". What you are saying is called an OPINION. Everyone has a different one.

4. This is an exposure thread. Yes some people are calling for bans, but the idea of this thread originally was to expose and talk about who is who. It's not offtopic, as it is something that affects the forums and the users who visit it.

Again, please go outside and play. You need a life and quick.

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: Acanthus
Once again, it is important to note that the only person rollo got banned was Zinn2b/Intelia/Turtle1 and his various other alts.

That's not what Rollo claims...

Originally posted by: Rollo

Originally posted by: linkgoron
Oh, what does QFP mean?

It means Quoted For Permanence, because the last four "smart guys" who threw that "Wah- you're an AEG fanboy stuff" at me were banned, forced to remove it.

I wanted to be sure the mods could see just how "clever" you are Linkgoron! Take it as a compliment!

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...atid=31&threadid=1769690&enterthread=y

He went to the Moderators and got at least four people banned for accusing him of being an AEG member when he knew they were absolutely correct.

Nice, huh?

 

[rbV5]

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: rbV5

I am not here to hurt your feelings Killrose. But that registeration date next to your name does not make you right.

If you would go after my ideas, you might earn some respect.

I'm a long time member, and I have alot of respect for Killrose because he's a decent guy and a good helpfull member here at AT, something he has "earned" over the years. If you truely were a lurker, you'd know it. You're wrong, and your opinion of some of the good members are worth less than the price you payed to become a member...play nice or go away.

I am playing nice. I have said nothing that wasnt true.

Attack ideas, not people.

Have you "said" anything at all? Killrose is right, not because of his join date, he's right because he's right...he is the one thats said nothing thats not true, you've said nothing but a bunch of generic pulpit crap.

 

[taterworks]

A big backlash seems to be what's needed against known viral marketers. I always thought there was a reason I distrusted Nvidia. This sort of thing is ruining the internet forum as a source of individual user experiences. If I had a forum, and could find out that members were paid off by marketing companies to hype products, I'd spend as long as it took to ban every one of them and make sure they don't come back. It wouldn't matter that this would be a never-ending game of whack-a-mole (haha - double meaning!!) -- I'd have a vendetta. I'm interested to know what the mod staff of Anandtech think about this. There should be a huge group of internet forums that get together and give Nvidia and other viral marketers (those who take advantage of a forum's population through viral marketing campaigns) a piece of our mind.

 

[schtuga]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: Killrose
Crusader you are new here. You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread. He went from a "vauled opinion member" to starting thread posts aimed at tainting ATi with anything he could dig up. It was sad to see and be witness too, but all too true.

He was evidently too week to resist the powers of free hardware in exchange for posting negative info when he saw a chance. Youa re certainly welcome to defend him all you like, but you are a new member and we here do not value your judgment.

Ah so because I'm "new" that means you will discount my judgement? Or do you discount it because you dont like what you are reading?

Unfortunately, B3D agrees with my general sentiment.. and you do not.

We need hits, we need insiders, we as forum members want valid and insider information.. that will never change, and you are not the way to that future.

Maybe some new and different point of views are EXACTLY what this limping forum needs. Thats why I joined, you guys are too concerned about-

Originally posted by: Killrose
You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread.

and you cant see beyond your nose.

What is important here isnt what is good for you and your feelings, but what is good for the overall community and Anandtechs profitability and credibility.

B3D has more insiders, more credibility. Hits=profit. More insiders=better reputation ala B3D=more hits.

I am not here to hurt your feelings Killrose. But that registeration date next to your name does not make you right.

If you would go after my ideas, you might earn some respect. Thats all I ask, face Rollo like men and defeat him in technical discussion.

Face me like men, and tell me why my logic is wrong.. besides you are angry at Rollo for past actions in which BOTH camps are complacent in, and probably deserved bans for participating in.

Moderation is the answer. Ban anyone who goes OffTopic, from my observation this should have been done here at ATVideo a long time ago.

Defeat marketers that you cant stop anyway by letting TRUTH rise.

I find it funny that some noob comes in here telling us how the forums should be run, but has never contributed anything worthy. Yes, because you are new and do not understand how things are run here, your voice isn't going to be listen to. Live with it.

So what you are saying is that this guy has never participated in any other forums to have come to a sensible conclusion as to how we can better this forum,and because you have more posts at this site that you obviously no more than he does.Is this what you are saying,just want to make sure.

And could you please direct me to links showing what you have cotributed that is "worthy"?From what you have said,if you can't show what you have contributed that is worthy ,then I guess we all have to ignore you because it automatically means you don't know anything,that is ,according to what you are saying.


I still stand by the statement that -REGARDLESS of your nationality,height,tax bracket,or who your afilliations are, you either post in a positive or negative way.PERIOD

 

[imported_Crusader]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: Killrose
Crusader you are new here. You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread. He went from a "vauled opinion member" to starting thread posts aimed at tainting ATi with anything he could dig up. It was sad to see and be witness too, but all too true.

He was evidently too week to resist the powers of free hardware in exchange for posting negative info when he saw a chance. Youa re certainly welcome to defend him all you like, but you are a new member and we here do not value your judgment.

Ah so because I'm "new" that means you will discount my judgement? Or do you discount it because you dont like what you are reading?

Unfortunately, B3D agrees with my general sentiment.. and you do not.

We need hits, we need insiders, we as forum members want valid and insider information.. that will never change, and you are not the way to that future.

Maybe some new and different point of views are EXACTLY what this limping forum needs. Thats why I joined, you guys are too concerned about-

Originally posted by: Killrose
You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread.

and you cant see beyond your nose.

What is important here isnt what is good for you and your feelings, but what is good for the overall community and Anandtechs profitability and credibility.

B3D has more insiders, more credibility. Hits=profit. More insiders=better reputation ala B3D=more hits.

I am not here to hurt your feelings Killrose. But that registeration date next to your name does not make you right.

If you would go after my ideas, you might earn some respect. Thats all I ask, face Rollo like men and defeat him in technical discussion.

Face me like men, and tell me why my logic is wrong.. besides you are angry at Rollo for past actions in which BOTH camps are complacent in, and probably deserved bans for participating in.

Moderation is the answer. Ban anyone who goes OffTopic, from my observation this should have been done here at ATVideo a long time ago.

Defeat marketers that you cant stop anyway by letting TRUTH rise.

You're starting to sound like the Hitler of forums. Ban anyone who goes OffTopic? Sure you can ruin the forums by running it as a dictatorship, but the community as a whole is a great community with a few shills who ruin it. That doesn't mean that we're perfect. People go offtopic and it's going to happen as. People are people..and it's in their mature to think outside the box. Don't limit what people say unless it turns into personal attacks or so offtopic that it ruins the threads. That's why we have moderators. They moderate, but they don't RULE. While it's not a perfect world, it works for most people and they keep coming back. IF you limit everything they say and you try to control people, they will end up leaving. No one wants corporate shills trashing the competition. It's like trying to go to a Ford dealership run by GM people. Who the hell wants that?

I find it funny that some noob comes in here telling us how the forums should be run, but has never contributed anything worthy. Yes, because you are new and do not understand how things are run here, your voice isn't going to be listen to. Live with it.

Its very clearly being listened too. I'm making a difference and doing the right thing by finally participating. This is unjust and you will have to live with that.

Offtopic and flame posts are why this forum has lost a lot of its appeal to many people. Whether you want to recognize this, and recognize that pushing this "AEG witchhunt" is part of the problem.. is up to you.

It has nothing to do with my and my "newness" it has everything to do about the truth of the matter.

BTW, moderators do indeed rule you. Just as Anand rules them. This is not a democracy. This is a business. Americans get their way of life and government mixed up with everythng else in the world, this is a business. Plain and simple.

My ideas are merely suggestions, yes, this AEG thing is out of control. Bans on everyone who continues to make it an issue is a totally plausible idea.. because while "Rollos" cant be controlled nor stopped... OffTopic posting can be stopped.
And marketing lies will be exposed like any other lie, no ridiculous witch hunt that cant stop it needs to be taking place.

1. No moderator rules me. This is an internet forums. You are putting WAY too much into this. You need to get up, go outside the house and get laid. They do not control anything about my life.

2. How exactly are you making a difference? You haven't done a damn thing. You have 10 post and the forum is the exact same as the day before your egotistical a$$ walked in. You're not a better person and making this place better. It's in your head.

3. There is no "truth". What you are saying is called an OPINION. Everyone has a different one.

4. This is an exposure thread. Yes some people are calling for bans, but the idea of this thread originally was to expose and talk about who is who. It's not offtopic, as it is something that affects the forums and the users who visit it.

Again, please go outside and play. You need a life and quick.

I'll be right behind you. 😉

 

[imported_Crusader]

Originally posted by: crazydingo

Originally posted by: Crusader
Ah so because I'm "new" that means you will discount my judgement? Or do you discount it because you dont like what you are reading?

No we discount your judgement because it is skewed. You pov is overtly self-centric. YOU know that viral marketing goes on, YOU know that Nvidia-AEG tie up exists and YOU dont care. Doesnt mean the rest shouldnt.

Originally posted by: Crusader
Unfortunately, B3D agrees with my general sentiment.. and you do not.

We need hits, we need insiders, we as forum members want valid and insider information.. that will never change, and you are not the way to that future.

Maybe some new and different point of views are EXACTLY what this limping forum needs. Thats why I joined, you guys are too concerned about-

LMAO, you are going OT by bringing "we need hits" logic. Just an FYI, AT forums get significantly more hits (almost 3 times) than B3D forums. So another one of your argument goes out of the window. This place needs MODERATION.

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: Killrose
You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread.

and you cant see beyond your nose.

What is important here isnt what is good for you and your feelings, but what is good for the overall community and Anandtechs profitability and credibility.

B3D has more insiders, more credibility. Hits=profit. More insiders=better reputation ala B3D=more hits.

I am not here to hurt your feelings Killrose. But that registeration date next to your name does not make you right.

If you would go after my ideas, you might earn some respect. Thats all I ask, face Rollo like men and defeat him in technical discussion.

Face me like men, and tell me why my logic is wrong.. besides you are angry at Rollo for past actions in which BOTH camps are complacent in, and probably deserved bans for participating in.

Moderation is the answer. Ban anyone who goes OffTopic, from my observation this should have been done here at ATVideo a long time ago.

Defeat marketers that you cant stop anyway by letting TRUTH rise.

Rollo & FUD are synonyms (atleast to the sensible) here. You can just dig up his posts (plentiful) which are supportive of that. If you cant realise that then I've wasted my time.

"lol" at the hits argument again.

This forum gets more hits because of its exposure. But B3D is in a much better position for the future of its credibility and influence.. the future of this place lies in the balance.
People who post offtopic and witch hunt are not helping AT.

Are you more worried about hits than you are credibility?

I think the credibility has to be there to draw people in, eventually. Official NV/ATI sources are more credible than anyone else I can think of for valid and accurate information.. they counter balance each other well.

I'd like to see an ATI represenative here, or the ones who are here to come out in the open.

Lets see some ATI vs NV engineer threads. If you arent interested in that, continue trying to eliminate our only link to Nvidia (Rollo).

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: schtuga

Originally posted by: LikeLinus

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: Killrose
Crusader you are new here. You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread. He went from a "vauled opinion member" to starting thread posts aimed at tainting ATi with anything he could dig up. It was sad to see and be witness too, but all too true.

He was evidently too week to resist the powers of free hardware in exchange for posting negative info when he saw a chance. Youa re certainly welcome to defend him all you like, but you are a new member and we here do not value your judgment.

Ah so because I'm "new" that means you will discount my judgement? Or do you discount it because you dont like what you are reading?

Unfortunately, B3D agrees with my general sentiment.. and you do not.

We need hits, we need insiders, we as forum members want valid and insider information.. that will never change, and you are not the way to that future.

Maybe some new and different point of views are EXACTLY what this limping forum needs. Thats why I joined, you guys are too concerned about-

Originally posted by: Killrose
You have not been witness to the last years FUD Rollo has spread.

and you cant see beyond your nose.

What is important here isnt what is good for you and your feelings, but what is good for the overall community and Anandtechs profitability and credibility.

B3D has more insiders, more credibility. Hits=profit. More insiders=better reputation ala B3D=more hits.

I am not here to hurt your feelings Killrose. But that registeration date next to your name does not make you right.

If you would go after my ideas, you might earn some respect. Thats all I ask, face Rollo like men and defeat him in technical discussion.

Face me like men, and tell me why my logic is wrong.. besides you are angry at Rollo for past actions in which BOTH camps are complacent in, and probably deserved bans for participating in.

Moderation is the answer. Ban anyone who goes OffTopic, from my observation this should have been done here at ATVideo a long time ago.

Defeat marketers that you cant stop anyway by letting TRUTH rise.

I find it funny that some noob comes in here telling us how the forums should be run, but has never contributed anything worthy. Yes, because you are new and do not understand how things are run here, your voice isn't going to be listen to. Live with it.

So what you are saying is that this guy has never participated in any other forums to have come to a sensible conclusion as to how we can better this forum,and because you have more posts at this site that you obviously no more than he does.Is this what you are saying,just want to make sure.

And could you please direct me to links showing what you have cotributed that is "worthy"?From what you have said,if you can't show what you have contributed that is worthy ,then I guess we all have to ignore you because it automatically means you don't know anything,that is ,according to what you are saying.


I still stand by the statement that -REGARDLESS of your nationality,height,tax bracket,or who your afilliations are, you either post in a positive or negative way.PERIOD

Thats how the forums are. Someone doesn't come in with a couple of post and say that what he is saying is for the better of the community and that everyone should be banned and yadda yadda yadda. The elitest attitude will get you no where. It's all opinion. I said I find it funny that he boast so much and doesn't even know the people he's talking about.

I'll show you my worthy threads if he can show us the differences he's made since been here for the past few hours. lol

 

[imported_Crusader]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Thats how the forums are. Someone doesn't come in with a couple of post and say that what he is saying is for the better of the community and that everyone should be banned and yadda yadda yadda. The elitest attitude will get you no where. It's all opinion. I said I find it funny that he boast so much and doesn't even know the people he's talking about.

I'll show you my worthy threads if he can show us the differences he's made since been here for the past few hours. lol

Im not sure who needs to get over ones self :disgust: me or you.

If you dont like different points of views and opinions than you are in the Wrong Place LikeLinus.

But next time, attacking my ideas are better than attacking me and my registration date.. :disgust:
Participating in an open forum, and contributing without flaming is not being an 'elitist'. Someone is acting like an elitist here, and its not me Linus.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: Crusader

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Thats how the forums are. Someone doesn't come in with a couple of post and say that what he is saying is for the better of the community and that everyone should be banned and yadda yadda yadda. The elitest attitude will get you no where. It's all opinion. I said I find it funny that he boast so much and doesn't even know the people he's talking about.

I'll show you my worthy threads if he can show us the differences he's made since been here for the past few hours. lol

Im not sure who needs to get over ones self :disgust: me or you.

If you dont like different points of views and opinions than you are in the Wrong Place LikeLinus.

But next time, attacking my ideas are better than attacking me and my registration date.. :disgust:
Participating in an open forum, and contributing without flaming is not being an 'elitist'. Someone is acting like an elitist here, and its not me Linus.

I'm just telling you how it is. It's not my attitude, it's the attitude of the forums in general. ANYONE who visits forums of any kind will know that it works like a high school click. That's just how it is.

"If you dont like different points of views and opinions than you are in the Wrong Place LikeLinus." Are you the pot calling the kettle black? You're saying you are making a difference and that everyone is listening to you. I'm saying you're not making a different and I'm not the only one. So this whole thread is offtopic, but you're sitting here saying that anyone who post off topic should be banned? What sort of ass-backwards thinking is this? You are not helping the problem, you are only contributing to it.

As stated, everyone has their own opinions. It's not right because you think you are right. It's just what it is. Don't go around with the attitude that you are saving the world and making these forums right. I made one small comment about your registration, only because thats how it is. But you failed to read the other few paragraphs. Ironic isn't? Being an elitest is "If you would go after my ideas, you might earn some respect."

What makes you right and Killrose wrong? Because YOU think so? Automatically your ideas are right? That's an elitest attitude.

"Unfortunately, B3D agrees with my general sentiment.. and you do not. "

Guess what? THIS ISNT B3D. That is what you don't seem to understand. You think this is all about Hits and you act like you run the show. You have no idea what these forums mean to anyone or Anand himself. Until he or someone runs the website and speaks up for what they want...you have nothing to go on. You don't know everything.

Go back and read some of the stuff you put.

 

[flawlssdistortn]

Originally posted by: taterworks
A big backlash seems to be what's needed against known viral marketers. I always thought there was a reason I distrusted Nvidia. This sort of thing is ruining the internet forum as a source of individual user experiences. If I had a forum, and could find out that members were paid off by marketing companies to hype products, I'd spend as long as it took to ban every one of them and make sure they don't come back. It wouldn't matter that this would be a never-ending game of whack-a-mole (haha - double meaning!!) -- I'd have a vendetta. I'm interested to know what the mod staff of Anandtech think about this. There should be a huge group of internet forums that get together and give Nvidia and other viral marketers (those who take advantage of a forum's population through viral marketing campaigns) a piece of our mind.

You are right on, but unfortunately it seems everyone else is concerned with verbally owning each other, rather than discuss the situation at hand. This flame war is getting to be more detrimental to the forum than the original issue itself.

 

[LikeLinus]

Originally posted by: flawlssdistortn

Originally posted by: taterworks
A big backlash seems to be what's needed against known viral marketers. I always thought there was a reason I distrusted Nvidia. This sort of thing is ruining the internet forum as a source of individual user experiences. If I had a forum, and could find out that members were paid off by marketing companies to hype products, I'd spend as long as it took to ban every one of them and make sure they don't come back. It wouldn't matter that this would be a never-ending game of whack-a-mole (haha - double meaning!!) -- I'd have a vendetta. I'm interested to know what the mod staff of Anandtech think about this. There should be a huge group of internet forums that get together and give Nvidia and other viral marketers (those who take advantage of a forum's population through viral marketing campaigns) a piece of our mind.

You are right on, but unfortunately it seems everyone else is concerned with verbally owning each other, rather than discuss the situation at hand. This flame war is getting to be more detrimental to the forum than the original issue itself.

The problem is how is AT going to find out who is a shill. There are probably more than we know. What are they supposed to do?

Honestly I have no problem if a representative of ATI or nVidia is part of these forums. The real problem is they need to be identified and up-front about their intentions. We have people from SwiftInk, Microsoft and Intel on these forums. But they do it HONESTLY.

What needs to happen is these people needs to have their titles changed to "nVidia Rep" and have something in their signature that identifies that they are bias. That will never happen though. The problem is companies know that reps are rarely listen to. They'd rather trash the competition and boast on their products without people knowing they are doing it.

In the end...what does AT or the community do?

 

[Creig]

Originally posted by: LikeLinus
In the end...what does AT or the community do?

Get rid of those proven to be secrectly working to push a single company's products while claiming to be "fair and balanced".