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v8envy

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Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: dev0lution
Originally posted by: Ronin

If that's too difficult for you to understand, tough sh!t. I work for a much, MUCH larger company than nVIDIA.

I'm guessing EA, since not many game developers post bigger revenue than NVidia's $2 Billion.
My guess was Microsoft! :)


Are we talking devs or publishers here? Because if publishers, Vivendi's pretty huge. As far as devs, I can't off the top of my head think of any with either a bigger market cap or revenue than NV. Bioware is about as big as I can think of.

Then again, it's late, and I'm beerified.

Edit: OH GOD *SONY*! How's the next rootkit coming along?
 

Ronin

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Originally posted by: dev0lution
Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: dev0lution
Originally posted by: Ronin

If that's too difficult for you to understand, tough sh!t. I work for a much, MUCH larger company than nVIDIA.

I'm guessing EA, since not many game developers post bigger revenue than NVidia's $2 Billion.
My guess was Microsoft! :)

1 DIVISION of the parent company I work for did more than that. :)


LOL..trick question then, since we're not talking just the game development side of the house :D

If you look at that original post, I actually posted said divison's 2k5 fiscal sales, too. :) (well, I edited the post to add it, but yeah)
 

rise

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Originally posted by: dev0lution
Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: dev0lution
Originally posted by: Ronin

If that's too difficult for you to understand, tough sh!t. I work for a much, MUCH larger company than nVIDIA.

I'm guessing EA, since not many game developers post bigger revenue than NVidia's $2 Billion.
My guess was Microsoft! :)

1 DIVISION of the parent company I work for did more than that. :)


LOL..trick question then, since we're not talking just the game development side of the house :D
sony ftw
 

M0RPH

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Whoever Ronin works for, he's an embarrassment to his company the way he posts in this forum. It's a good thing for the company that he doesn't disclose it.
 

akugami

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: akugami
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
By "we" I take it you mean you are in AEG as well? :Q Well since this is a "coming" out party, who's up next? Wreckage? Cmmmmoooon out...rofl.
Nope. Sadly I do it for free just to piss off you ATI fan boys. I guess that's reward enough.

Although I could really use a new video card. I wonder if I contacted them, maybe they would send me one? Hmmm, I would need a whole new system actually since I'm still on AGP :p


I see, so you admit to trolling and trying to "piss off" ATi fans. Nice.

Nothing new here. When he first starting posting here I noticed him crapping on ATI. I had suspicions he was a fanboy then but didn't voice it. I asked him to explain some of his comments as to why he thought ATI's cards were inferior to nVidia's in a couple of threads and to explain some of his other comments. It was in a polite non confrontational fashion. I got no response.

My suspicions on him were pretty much cemented after more negative ATI comments and him showing all the classic signs of a troll/fanboy. It was only after I called him for what he rightfully is, a troll and fanboy that I got responses from him. None of it nice.

AGAIN I SAY!!!

What's your excuse?

Anyone can do a search and look through your previous posts to see the ATI tattoo on your butt.

Why is that?

Heh...totally ignoring the fact, and I've said this in response to you more than once, I have recommended nVidia cards to people before and have publicly stated I was waiting for the G71 before making my next video card purchase and have even recommended the same advice to someone asking if they should purchase an X1900XT. Yep, I'm sure a diehard ATI fan since I'm waiting for performance numbers from nVidia's new card before making an informed purchase and I'm recommending others on the fence do the same. Of course with your selective reading comprehension, out of context quotes, and arguing over semantics, you probably missed all of that. Or maybe you were too busy pi$$ing off ATi fans, which you admitted was your agenda on these forums.

Now, you've implied ATI has done the same viral marketing. I'm sure it's crossed their minds. Until you can prove it or link them with a suspicious company like AEG, you're just trying to make excuses for nVidia's bad behavior. And if ATI has done it, they'd be wise to discontinue the viral marketing program now or not start one at all. So if you have proof or a suspicious link between ATI and a company like AEG, prove it or just admit you're full of hot air.

I play games for fun. If both video card companies are doing crap like this, I can just as easily not play pc/console games (since both companies are doing console GPU's now). I can just as easily be doing other stuff like playing gambling, or hanging out a few more extra hours with some friends or more time with the GF.

With the current nVidia fiasco, I think I'm just going to ignore the G71 now. This is not to get back at nVidia or getting back at any nVidia fan. I'm just voting with my money. If I feel a company has been doing something unethical and detrimental to it's customers, it loses my support.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Ronin
If you had a 1/100th of the tact and intelligence I did, you'd still come across 100 times less abrasive then you do. You're a bitter child, M0RPH, and I pity you.

at least he only has 1/20th of 1 percent of your arrogance . . .

 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: dev0lution
Originally posted by: Ronin

If that's too difficult for you to understand, tough sh!t. I work for a much, MUCH larger company than nVIDIA.

I'm guessing EA, since not many game developers post bigger revenue than NVidia's $2 Billion.
My guess was Microsoft! :)

1 DIVISION of the parent company I work for did more than that. :)

2005 fiscal sales were almost 7 billion for said division, to give you an idea.

You're talking about the video games division of your parent company, right?

link

It's pretty obvious that you work for a large marketing firm that markets video games, among other things (computer hardware perhaps?).
 

Ronin

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Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Ronin
If you had a 1/100th of the tact and intelligence I did, you'd still come across 100 times less abrasive then you do. You're a bitter child, M0RPH, and I pity you.

at least he only has 1/20th of 1 percent of your arrogance . . .

There's a fine line between arrogance and confidence. You should learn the difference between the two.
 

v8envy

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Originally posted by: akugami


With the current nVidia fiasco, I think I'm just going to ignore the G71 now. This is not to get back at nVidia or getting back at any nVidia fan. I'm just voting with my money. If I feel a company has been doing something unethical and detrimental to it's customers, it loses my support.

Now that's just insane for a large laundrylist of reasons.

1. A company is not a single-brained entity, all marching along to the beat of one drum. It's not like the whole hive mind collective wakes up one morning and decides to be evil.

2. Companies are in business to maximize their revenue while minimizing their costs. If you look at that from the consumer's point of view, they're ALL out to screw you. Good luck with the whole living in a cave and eating ants lifestyle, we'll be rooting for ya.

3. Unless they hold a gun to your head and force you to swipe a credit card, you're free to make informed buying decisions. Marketing's whole purpose of being is to make sure you make a worse purchasing decision than you might otherwise. Boycoting a company whenever their marketing department gets too vigorous is silly.

4. I've been typing so much my beer is getting warm.

6. Just how ARE you gaming without Borg's OS on your machine? They're as evil as it gets, what with the whole convicted monopolist armtwisting thing.

7. Hmm. I'm sure there was a 5, I just can't remember it now.



 

Ronin

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: dev0lution
Originally posted by: Ronin

If that's too difficult for you to understand, tough sh!t. I work for a much, MUCH larger company than nVIDIA.

I'm guessing EA, since not many game developers post bigger revenue than NVidia's $2 Billion.
My guess was Microsoft! :)

1 DIVISION of the parent company I work for did more than that. :)

2005 fiscal sales were almost 7 billion for said division, to give you an idea.

You're talking about the video games division of your parent company, right?

link

It's pretty obvious that you work for a large marketing firm that markets video games, among other things (computer hardware perhaps?).

For the last time, I don't work for a marketing company of any sort. Drop it, bud. You're barking up the wrong tree, and you're really starting to sound ignorant.

That, and for reference, the parent company of the parent company (just the US division) made $22billion in 2k5. Let's see if you can figure that one out.
 

SilentRunning

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Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: dev0lution
Originally posted by: Ronin

If that's too difficult for you to understand, tough sh!t. I work for a much, MUCH larger company than nVIDIA.

I'm guessing EA, since not many game developers post bigger revenue than NVidia's $2 Billion.
My guess was Microsoft! :)

1 DIVISION of the parent company I work for did more than that. :)

2005 fiscal sales were almost 7 billion for said division, to give you an idea.

You're talking about the video games division of your parent company, right?

link

It's pretty obvious that you work for a large marketing firm that markets video games, among other things (computer hardware perhaps?).

How about:

Quality Assurance Analysts
Harvey Burgess, Carl Flaherty, Salim Grant, Grant McDaniel, Eric Simpson, Taylor Steil, Ryan Antonelli, David Bryson, Neil Christmas, Will Figgins, Thomas Kirton, Chris Phillips, Tiffany Sanchez and Jason Stone

from HERE


 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: apoppin
Originally posted by: Ronin
If you had a 1/100th of the tact and intelligence I did, you'd still come across 100 times less abrasive then you do. You're a bitter child, M0RPH, and I pity you.

at least he only has 1/20th of 1 percent of your arrogance . . .

There's a fine line between arrogance and confidence. You should learn the difference between the two.

i know you are arrogant

and there's a thing call 'tact' that is beyond your comprehension.
 

v8envy

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Originally posted by: SilentRunning
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Quality Assurance Analysts

Aha! Too coherent to be a coder, must be a QA guy. Makes sense now.

So is the entertainment software arm of Sony anywhere near the kind of slave pits their movie studio special effects studios are?
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: SilentRunning
Originally posted by: SickBeast
Originally posted by: Ronin
Originally posted by: Crazyfool
Originally posted by: dev0lution
Originally posted by: Ronin

If that's too difficult for you to understand, tough sh!t. I work for a much, MUCH larger company than nVIDIA.

I'm guessing EA, since not many game developers post bigger revenue than NVidia's $2 Billion.
My guess was Microsoft! :)

1 DIVISION of the parent company I work for did more than that. :)

2005 fiscal sales were almost 7 billion for said division, to give you an idea.

You're talking about the video games division of your parent company, right?

link

It's pretty obvious that you work for a large marketing firm that markets video games, among other things (computer hardware perhaps?).

How about:

Quality Assurance Analysts
Harvey Burgess, Carl Flaherty, Salim Grant, Grant McDaniel, Eric Simpson, Taylor Steil, Ryan Antonelli, David Bryson, Neil Christmas, Will Figgins, Thomas Kirton, Chris Phillips, Tiffany Sanchez and Jason Stone

from HERE

Well then. He tests games for a living. I must admit I'm jealous. It also explains all of the graphics cards. I guess 5 beta test chimps need hardware to be a chimp on.

My apologies, Ronin. :brokenheart:
 

SilentRunning

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Originally posted by: SickBeast

Well then. He tests games for a living. I must admit I'm jealous. It also explains all of the graphics cards. I guess 5 beta test chimps need hardware to be a chimp on.

My apologies, Ronin. :brokenheart:

EDIT: crap hit trigger too soon

If that is indeed him he has moved up to Compatibility Lab Supervisor HERE
 

M0RPH

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Originally posted by: Ronin

There's a fine line between arrogance and confidence. You should learn the difference between the two.

I wonder how your company would feel about your posts here boasting about all the free hardware you've received from various companies?
 

SickBeast

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Originally posted by: M0RPH
Originally posted by: Ronin

There's a fine line between arrogance and confidence. You should learn the difference between the two.

I wonder how your company would feel about your posts here boasting about all the free hardware you've received from various companies?

His employer probably gives him the cards so that he can do his job.

He sounds like a manager at a QA firm. He probably works with a team of 5 people to find bugs in games.

As for all his money stats, he was probably referring to the video game industry as a whole with his $22 billion/year statement, and maybe EA or Sony when it comes to the other figures.

In any event, the cat is out of the bag.
 

Janooo

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Originally posted by: SilentRunning
Originally posted by: SickBeast

Well then. He tests games for a living. I must admit I'm jealous. It also explains all of the graphics cards. I guess 5 beta test chimps need hardware to be a chimp on.

My apologies, Ronin. :brokenheart:

EDIT: crap hit trigger too soon

If that is indeed him he has moved up to Compatibility Lab Supervisor HERE

Nevertheless Ronin pushes NV agenda the same way as Rollo.
 

apoppin

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Originally posted by: M0RPH
Originally posted by: Ronin

There's a fine line between arrogance and confidence. You should learn the difference between the two.

I wonder how your company would feel about your posts here boasting about all the free hardware you've received from various companies?

i dunno . . . we now know who he is and who he works for . . . you can ask them now yourself. :Q

. . . . . . i guess there IS a fine line between arrogance and confidence . . . and it looks like stupidity and OVERconfidence came into play here. . . .so much for his "intellegence" theory. :p

:D

the LATEST from the Consumerist
Nvidia 'Focus Group' Member Details Hidden Program
For the record, while there are certainly ?Manchurian Fans? being hired to promote products in the games and/or gaming hardware world, Nvidia and AEG have both clearly denied that they have hired stealth marketers to create personas to promote Nvidia products. We have no reason not to believe them and have stated that elsewhere on the site, but am putting it up again just to outline it. (Naturally, we?d like to know who is hiring these stealth marketers, so feel free to pass on anything regarding this you feel germane.)

When we first wrote the story we were led to believe that something along these lines was occurring. Mr. Perez?s four day silence after his last reply saying, essentially, that it?d be easier/better for him to discuss this on the phone seemed like he wanted to avoid the questions entirely. (He never called or returned further emails, even the one I sent on Friday saying I was planning on running my story on Monday.)

There?s a very good post on the Beyond 3d forums posted tonight where an Nvidia Focus Group member posted details of the program and his participation in it. The program sounds pretty great. Soliciting opinion from your customers is something we whole-heartedly encourage.

But why was the Focus Group program hidden? AEG states in a statement to Shacknews that ?The names of those individuals whom we solicit opinions from are not made public in order to assure the quality and honesty of feedback from consumers.? Isn?t it fair to the peer group of the Focus Group participants to know that their trusted source happens to get free gear from Nvidia?

The point isn?t that the program is inherently bad. It?s that hiding the program is both a disservice to their customers and leads to assumptions that other, more nefarious programs could be going on.

At one point in our post-story phone conversation, Mr. Perez?after spitting out the stock-standard, ?Hi, nice to talk. Expect to hear from my lawyers,? routine?tried to ?educate? us about the way that PR was changing in the internet age. Because so much marketing is done via word-of-mouth recommendations these days, he explained, it was important for Nvidia to ?reach out? to the community and take advantage of the enthusiasm of their most hard core fans to act as liasons and ?their voice? in the community.

What he didn?t seem to understand (and maybe he could get his lawyers to help explain it to him) is why the customers who aren?t part of the Focus Group might want to know who was in the program, so they could know who to trust. Until The Consumerist posted this story yesterday, was the Nvidia Focus Group even publicly acknowledged at all? If it?s so innocent and innocuous, why not?

We never had to ask if our TV was lying to us, because we know it does. We don?t go out for beers or talk about games with our radios. These days, with direct contact with their customers, marketing initiatives have to be transparent else risk alienating their base. Every time a company interacts with the community, they have a responsibility to put all their cards on the table. PR is changing, but it?s changing because the customers are smarter and more connected than they used to be.

Mr. Perez posed this question to us: If a customer goes to the store and purchases an Nvidia product, then writes a review of the product online, is the opinion any less valid than when the customer receives the product for free? We feel the answer is obvious. That Mr. Perez sees no conflict of interest is a testament to his and Nvidia?s poor grasp on the changing nature of consumerism.

We encourage Nvidia and AEG to retool their Focus Group program to be fully transparent. Trust in your customer?s ability to make an informed decision. We can handle it.
 

Janooo

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Originally posted by: Wreckage
Originally posted by: Janooo

Nevertheless Ronin pushes NV agenda the same way as Rollo.
How is this any worse than those who push the ATI agenda?
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So far there is no connection between AEG and ATI.
 
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