nVidia to cut 5 European partners

[Zap]

Originally posted by: apoppin
But herein lies the real problem with the best single GPU cards ..
What happens when it isn't enough?
:Q

That just means your expectations are too high.

My personal systems are still running decent 8-series NVIDIA GPUs, and I'm able to play everything I want to play, smoothly and at full resolution. All eye candy turned up? I don't know, and I don't even care to check. Games look fine and run smooth, which is 'nuff for me.

Don't get me wrong. I really WANT to upgrade*. However, if/when I upgrade, it is because I want to, not need too.

*I want to swap out my 8800 GT on my main rig for a 9800 GTX+ and retain passive cooling. I figure the GTX+ is the highest end card that can reasonably be passively cooled. For my gaming rig, maybe a GTX 2XX card of some kind to replace the 8800 GTX G92. For my HTPC... don't know yet, but there's got to be something better than the Radeon HD 2600 Pro that fits into a somewhat slim case and with near passive cooling.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: apoppin
But herein lies the real problem with the best single GPU cards ..
What happens when it isn't enough?
:Q

That just means your expectations are too high.

My personal systems are still running decent 8-series NVIDIA GPUs, and I'm able to play everything I want to play, smoothly and at full resolution. All eye candy turned up? I don't know, and I don't even care to check. Games look fine and run smooth, which is 'nuff for me.

Don't get me wrong. I really WANT to upgrade*. However, if/when I upgrade, it is because I want to, not need too.

*I want to swap out my 8800 GT on my main rig for a 9800 GTX+ and retain passive cooling. I figure the GTX+ is the highest end card that can reasonably be passively cooled. For my gaming rig, maybe a GTX 2XX card of some kind to replace the 8800 GTX G92. For my HTPC... don't know yet, but there's got to be something better than the Radeon HD 2600 Pro that fits into a somewhat slim case and with near passive cooling.

Maybe yours are too low
:Q

i expect you will want to, when your level of personal discomfort becomes too high; i call it a need
- or perhaps you will keep reading these responses and get dissatisfied with your current HW; Nowadays, i find it hard to tolerate 19x12 with a single 4870/512, but would "settle" for my 280GTX



i have to also agree with you, if you are the compromise kind of person who can put up with the occasional slowdown and/or turning down detail; but if you like 4xMSAA on 07/08 games and play at 19x12, even GTX8800 is not a pleasant gaming experience for me
-there are also those who run XP and do not have the extra overhead of Vista/DX10 that probably can get by OK with 8800 series

ANYWAY, in a related note .. AMD looks be making a big announcement about becoming Asset Lite

SPINNING OFF ALL THEIR FABS WORLDWIDE

http://www.cnbc.com/id/2705796...|quote|text|&par=yahoo

i expected this for a long time

 

[rjc]

Originally posted by: thilan29
http://www.fudzilla.com/index....=view&id=9767&Itemid=1

"they have to cut the weak to give a better chance for the big ones to survive."

Lol that sounds funny for some reason.

Fudzilla has updated his story as well as Foxconn and Club 3d also cut are ECS, Biostar and Albatron.

How many of those partners make nvidia motherboards?

Just today an analyst has come out with a report saying of the recent job cuts 40% were in chipsets and thus nvidia are likely to exit the chipset business soon. This caused quite some bad action on their share price.

As mentioned in another thread "they have to cut the weak to give the better chance for the big ones to survive" is poor logic, much more likely to be pressure from other partners. Or from above removing the partners who were mainly concerned with chipsets.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: apoppin
i have to also agree with you, if you are the compromise kind of person who can put up with the occasional slowdown and/or turning down detail; but if you like 4xMSAA on 07/08 games and play at 19x12, even GTX8800 is not a pleasant gaming experience for me
-there are also those who run XP and do not have the extra overhead of Vista/DX10 that probably can get by OK with 8800 series

Seriously, I can't even tell a difference between various AA settings or whatever. Then again, I pretty much only play fast multiplayer stuff or older RTS (though changing, just recently started playing SupCom and have CoH installed). In the thick of a shootout, all I need is to see the opponent. Who cares if I can see his animated nose hairs without jaggies?

Heck, I still have Quake 3 Arena with everything turned DOWN! You want framerate? Try 1k FPS! I've had those settings since the game came out (well, since q3test104 or something) and I probably won't ever crank it up.

Anyways, I primarily play COD4 multiplayer these days, with TF2 as a backup. These don't require much to run full res smoothly.

I'm running XP right now, though I'm considering Vista 64 since RAM is becoming cheaper and cheaper (4GB Crucial for $28.99 after rebate with free shipping - now in Hot Deals!). Hmmm, purchased MS Technet but still haven't checked it out... maybe time to download me some 64 bit OSes.

I DO want to upgrade, just from WANT and not from NEED.

 

[betasub]

These are European partners, with cards sold by European vendors at prices that seem far removed from the US market. So please quit spouting newegg prices to defend the competitiveness of Nvidia products: for these partners, newegg prices are not the issue.

 

[nemesismk2]

In the UK Nvidia video cards seem to be overpriced compared to ATI!

Example:-

4850 = £95
9800 GT = £96
9800 GTX+ = £140

The problem is that the 4850 is faster than the 9800 GT and is equal to the £45 more expensive 9800 GTX+.

 

[taltamir]

Originally posted by: thilan29
http://www.fudzilla.com/index....=view&id=9767&Itemid=1

"they have to cut the weak to give a better chance for the big ones to survive."

Lol that sounds funny for some reason.

If those companies were strong, they wouldn't need someone to take the "weak" out for them, they would kill and eat them by themselves.

Then again, this is a fudzilla article, who knows if this is really what nvidia said...

 

[Keysplayr]

Zap, you have your own reasons for upgrading. But generally, it is a better idea to upgrade when you "need" to rather than "want" to.
But, to each his own.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
generally, it is a better idea to upgrade when you "need" to rather than "want" to.

If I followed that train of thought, I'd still be using my AMD A64 x2 3800+ from three years ago. :shocked:

Few people really and truely "need" to upgrade as often as they do. There is no "need" to be able to run a given game at a given IQ level and given framerate, but people upgrade for that reason all the time. Hence, "want."

 

[taltamir]

this is going into the definition of "need"... I think he meant need as in "see a benefit", since obviously a computer is not a necessity of life like food.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: Zap

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
generally, it is a better idea to upgrade when you "need" to rather than "want" to.

If I followed that train of thought, I'd still be using my AMD A64 x2 3800+ from three years ago. :shocked:

Few people really and truely "need" to upgrade as often as they do. There is no "need" to be able to run a given game at a given IQ level and given framerate, but people upgrade for that reason all the time. Hence, "want."

you don't "need" a computer as necessary to your survival either

i see it all as a want

unlike air, food and water

those are needs

but then there are needs for human comfort

and i NEED to upgrade ... actually my new job *depends* on it

semantics

 

[Keysplayr]

I meant need as in "My PC is having a bit of trouble for the first time with this new game. I think I need to upgrade something."
So I was meaning that "Everybody wants". But doesn't necessarily need. No big deal. Everyone is different. I usually never upgraded unless I felt I was experiencing less than playable framerates in games, or slower than I could tolerate encoding with new programs. Or, there was a terrific deal somewhere that I could not pass up.

 

[Zap]

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
I meant need as in "My PC is having a bit of trouble for the first time with this new game. I think I need to upgrade something."

Different strokes... if that happened to me the first thing I'd do was to lower settings.

Of course passing up terrific deals is not an option.