nVIDIA PRICE DROP-7800GTX512 $399, 7900GT $299, 7900GTX512 $499

[djnsmith7]

All this bickering & crap...I thought this forum had grown men around here...From the looks of it, that may not be the case...The majority of this thread looks like childs play...

I'd like to know if anyone's seen anything else related to the original topic...Any further news or reports regarding these price reductions?

Enough w/ the damn tax crap & my job is better than your job BS...Some people need to leave that personal crap elsewhere...MODS, it would be nice if you would have chimed in a long time ago & ended the nonsense...We had a good thread going here...

 

[Matthias99]

Originally posted by: yacoub

Originally posted by: Matthias99
Posting benchmarks is not IMO in the realm of 'trolling', even if they are poor benchmarks in your opinion or the poster has come to what you think is the 'wrong' conclusion.

I see you're purposefully taking an overly simplistic view of things instead of recognizing (what looked more and more like) a troll for what it is. I'll leave it at that since you clearly have no interest in stepping back to look at the big picture consideration.

The 'big picture' consideration that people aren't allowed to be wrong or disagree?

Assume for a moment that he's not trolling. Why throw a personal attack at him and accuse him of trolling just because you don't agree with what he posted? You could discuss what he posted and why you think it is wrong without resorting to personal insults.

Even if he is trolling, responding the way 5150Joker did is just walking right into it. If you think he's a troll, just ignore him, or PM the mods. Trying to flame him out of the thread doesn't work, and in fact makes it much much worse.

Begger, are you stupid or just trolling? You're counting tests that don't utilize AA/AF at low resolution as wins? The XBit review is older and uses crappy games like Snowblind, WarHammer and Pacific Fighters.

(emphasis added)

Oddly enough, he's just asking the very same question everyone else (aside from you) likely wanted to ask when reading beggar's post - "wtf is he thinking posting that nonsense?

I had the same question.

is he trolling or actually that ignorant?"

Crossed my mind. Actually posting that question is flamebait. You could have questioned or dismissed the results without making it into a personal attack. That is where the thread got off-track.

The personal attack is completely unnecessary, and started the whole mess that took the thread off into left field.

I would agree Joker could have worded that post better but it's actually a valid question given beggar's post.

I don't care how 'valid' it is; it was posted in a highly inflammatory and antagonistic way. Making posts like that is against the forum rules, and saying someone else started it is not an excuse, at least not one the mods will accept. He posted benchmarks you don't agree with, so you can call him a troll and stupid? Um, no.

Of course, beggerking immediately turned around and did the same thing, and beyond that point it was a team effort. So he's not getting a lot of sympathy.

I would argue beggar's post is what started the whole tangent and would still say it comes down to either being intentional or he's rather ignorant.

Best I could say is it was a group effort. 5150Joker's initial response was not an acceptable reaction to what had been posted IMO, even if it had been posted 'intentionally'.

Either way, he's responsible for this thread being so messy and that is proven simply by his inability to STFU at any point throughout it all.

Well, he did actually shut up about 2/3 of the way through. People keep dragging it back up and trying to point the blame at someone.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Hopefully someday, these forums will allow us to block all content from specific members. Hows that for taking out the garbage posts.. That would be sweet.

what about when your 'blocked poster' is quoted by someone else?

i can avoid reading your posts when i want to.



btw, what is this thread about?


i haven seen an On-Topic post in the last 50

nVidia Price drop?

awesome
:thumbsup: :thumbsup:

as in the response to the e-mail, paulxcook, try again next week. . . . $40 + shipping is tough to eat.
me? i'd benchmark the card, see if it suited my needs for the games i play, read the reviews quickly . . . but it looks like you will get the upgrade.

tough call

I would think that the blocked list would become quite extensive. So people who would bother to quote and unruly poster may well get blocked as well. The vid forum may not make sense after a while, (as it rarely does now) but it would be a whole lot more congenial.

 

[paulxcook]

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: apoppinas in the response to the e-mail, paulxcook, try again next week. . . . $40 + shipping is tough to eat.
me? i'd benchmark the card, see if it suited my needs for the games i play, read the reviews quickly . . . but it looks like you will get the upgrade.

tough call

I've benched the thing, and while I'll definitely wait for reviews to confirm my/our suspicions, my guess is that I'll gladly pay the $40 for a refreshed 7800 GTX 256mb. I may even get two

isn't your only concern that you won't be allowed to step up?

. . . or that the new card will be too expensive?

i think i would wait for the step up.

I'll be stepping up assuming it won't cost more than just sending the card back to Newegg for a refund.

I just hope this $299 pricetag is the real deal Holyfield.

A nice feature for these boards would be a button the Mods could push so that everyone arguing could be banned from this specific thread. I think a total of 4 people care about who said what to who, who's a troll, etc. The rest of us just want to talk about the upcoming 7900 release.

 

[Cygnus X1]

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: apoppinas in the response to the e-mail, paulxcook, try again next week. . . . $40 + shipping is tough to eat.
me? i'd benchmark the card, see if it suited my needs for the games i play, read the reviews quickly . . . but it looks like you will get the upgrade.

tough call

I've benched the thing, and while I'll definitely wait for reviews to confirm my/our suspicions, my guess is that I'll gladly pay the $40 for a refreshed 7800 GTX 256mb. I may even get two

isn't your only concern that you won't be allowed to step up?

. . . or that the new card will be too expensive?

i think i would wait for the step up.

I'll be stepping up assuming it won't cost more than just sending the card back to Newegg for a refund.

I just hope this $299 pricetag is the real deal Holyfield.

A nice feature for these boards would be a button the Mods could push so that everyone arguing could be banned from this specific thread. I think a total of 4 people care about who said what to who, who's a troll, etc. The rest of us just want to talk about the upcoming 7900 release.

HERE HERE! I'm the OP so I will derail this for my liking. I'm gonna buy the 7900gt at 299.00. I need a new mb, what is the deal with the 2 pci-e slots on your DFI and it's not a real sli rig. I like the motherboard but I don't want sli, or even the possibility of it. So that leaves me with the A8N-E Asus I guess?

 

[yacoub]

Aye, $299 is an almost undeniable price to buy at. It will be tough to wait 'til the end of March to see how the X1900XL matches up, if the GT actually does come out at $299!

 

[WT]

Dunno if the EVGA Step Up program confusion has been officially cleared up, but based on my reading they credit you the cost of your current video card. What if you bought the 518 card with the 'free' *ahem* EVGA SLI board ? That cost at least $40 more than the similar 515 card and it would be very nice to receive that amount for a step up. I don't really mind either way, as I own two EVGA cards (and will make that three later this year) and consider them the best all around vid card company to deal with.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: paulxcook

Originally posted by: apoppinas in the response to the e-mail, paulxcook, try again next week. . . . $40 + shipping is tough to eat.
me? i'd benchmark the card, see if it suited my needs for the games i play, read the reviews quickly . . . but it looks like you will get the upgrade.

tough call

I've benched the thing, and while I'll definitely wait for reviews to confirm my/our suspicions, my guess is that I'll gladly pay the $40 for a refreshed 7800 GTX 256mb. I may even get two

isn't your only concern that you won't be allowed to step up?

. . . or that the new card will be too expensive?

i think i would wait for the step up.

I'll be stepping up assuming it won't cost more than just sending the card back to Newegg for a refund.

I just hope this $299 pricetag is the real deal Holyfield.

A nice feature for these boards would be a button the Mods could push so that everyone arguing could be banned from this specific thread. I think a total of 4 people care about who said what to who, who's a troll, etc. The rest of us just want to talk about the upcoming 7900 release.

i would - personally - just 'step up' instead of sending it back to NewEgg . . . it looks like a good programme with a lot of satisfied customers.

yep, $299 would be awesome and [probably] force ATi to respond. Hope it's true.

BTW, i LIKE your idea of "locking out" aggressive people from a "hot" thread . . . UNfortunately we have NO moderation here [unless someone calls for one].

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003

Originally posted by: apoppin

Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Hopefully someday, these forums will allow us to block all content from specific members. Hows that for taking out the garbage posts.. That would be sweet.

what about when your 'blocked poster' is quoted by someone else?

i can avoid reading your posts when i want to.


I would think that the blocked list would become quite extensive. So people who would bother to quote and unruly poster may well get blocked as well. The vid forum may not make sense after a while, (as it rarely does now) but it would be a whole lot more congenial.

in case you haven't noticed, the forum HAS become more congenial . . . partly thanks to your online gaming . . . and other reasons . . . however, there are some that just love to "stir" up other members.

i don't this this is gonna change . . . and i am afraid - without real moderation - this is as good as it gets. We are the "P&N" of GH.
:Q

 

[Cookie Monster]

Originally posted by: Janooo

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
...
Then you have 7900GTX SLi for $799 ...

Where does this come from?

Link

Our own sources indicated that the dual GPU cards will be have an SRP somewhere close to the $799 mark,

 

[xMax]

WHEN WILL THIS NVIDIA '7800GTX 512' PRICE DROP BEGIN TO TAKE EFFECT?

 

[Cookie Monster]

If the prices of 299 for the 7900GT is true. Then the price of the 7600GT could be around the MSRP of $199. ($249 would make NO sense as the 7900GT would kill the 7600 series sales).

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: xMax
WHEN WILL THIS NVIDIA '7800GTX 512' PRICE DROP BEGIN TO TAKE EFFECT?

There was word of very low prices on them about a week ago, and then a few days ago rumour was circulating that the cards have been recalled and discontinued.

I personally don't see why nVidia would recall them; it would make sense to cut the price and sell them off ASAP, which is probably what they have done. My guess is that there are very few, if any, 7800GTX 512 cards left in retail.

Why would you buy anything now when the new cards are going to be out in a week?

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: xMax
WHEN WILL THIS NVIDIA '7800GTX 512' PRICE DROP BEGIN TO TAKE EFFECT?

There was word of very low prices on them about a week ago, and then a few days ago rumour was circulating that the cards have been recalled and discontinued.

I personally don't see why nVidia would recall them; it would make sense to cut the price and sell them off ASAP, which is probably what they have done. My guess is that there are very few, if any, 7800GTX 512 cards left in retail.

Why would you buy anything now when the new cards are going to be out in a week?

Yeah its pretty obvious the 512 GTX has just reached EOL status and not many were made to begin with. They can set the new retail price to $5.00 but it won't mean anything for consumers that actually want one.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
If the prices of 299 for the 7900GT is true. Then the price of the 7600GT could be around the MSRP of $199. ($249 would make NO sense as the 7900GT would kill the 7600 series sales).

If $299 for the new GT is true, that's simply incredible IMO. More than likely cards will sell for $250 if availability is good. There's no way in the world that the X1900XT is twice as fast as the 7900GT (but it potentially costs twice as much).

I have a feeling the 7900GTs will be a very interesting SLI option and will making high end buying decisions very difficult to figure out. HDR+AA is worth something. How much it's worth is the question.

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
If the prices of 299 for the 7900GT is true. Then the price of the 7600GT could be around the MSRP of $199. ($249 would make NO sense as the 7900GT would kill the 7600 series sales).

If $299 for the new GT is true, that's simply incredible IMO. More than likely cards will sell for $250 if availability is good. There's no way in the world that the X1900XT is twice as fast as the 7900GT (but it potentially costs twice as much).

I have a feeling the 7900GTs will be a very interesting SLI option and will making high end buying decisions very difficult to figure out. HDR+AA is worth something. How much it's worth is the question.

Agreed as long as ATi doesn't release an X1900XL that performs on par with the GT for around the same price point. IMO ATi is in a position to charge a $50 premium on their parts just because they're more advanced.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
If the prices of 299 for the 7900GT is true. Then the price of the 7600GT could be around the MSRP of $199. ($249 would make NO sense as the 7900GT would kill the 7600 series sales).

If $299 for the new GT is true, that's simply incredible IMO. More than likely cards will sell for $250 if availability is good. There's no way in the world that the X1900XT is twice as fast as the 7900GT (but it potentially costs twice as much).

I have a feeling the 7900GTs will be a very interesting SLI option and will making high end buying decisions very difficult to figure out. HDR+AA is worth something. How much it's worth is the question.

Agreed as long as ATi doesn't release an X1900XL that performs on par with the GT for around the same price point. IMO ATi is in a position to charge a $50 premium on their parts just because they're more advanced.

The 6800GT was more advanced than the X800Pro, yet I seem to remember those cards costing the same amount. :Q

 

[xMax]

There was word of very low prices on them about a week ago, and then a few days ago rumour was circulating that the cards have been recalled and discontinued.

I personally don't see why nVidia would recall them; it would make sense to cut the price and sell them off ASAP, which is probably what they have done. My guess is that there are very few, if any, 7800GTX 512 cards left in retail.

Why would Nvidia recall the 7800GTX 512? Is there something wrong with them or is it simply because of the emergence of the 7900GTX 512?

Why would you buy anything now when the new cards are going to be out in a week?

For two reasons:
1-The 7900GTX 512 will probably be impossible to find. All these crazy enthusiasts will snatch them as quickly as possible.
2-I figure the 7800GTX 512 would be cheaper.

So i guess the price drop will be everywhere when the 7900 hits in a week.

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: xMax

There was word of very low prices on them about a week ago, and then a few days ago rumour was circulating that the cards have been recalled and discontinued.

I personally don't see why nVidia would recall them; it would make sense to cut the price and sell them off ASAP, which is probably what they have done. My guess is that there are very few, if any, 7800GTX 512 cards left in retail.

Why would Nvidia recall the 7800GTX 512? Is there something wrong with them or is it simply because of the emergence of the 7900GTX 512?

Why would you buy anything now when the new cards are going to be out in a week?

For two reasons:
1-The 7900GTX 512 will probably be impossible to find. All these crazy enthusiasts will snatch them as quickly as possible.
2-I figure the 7800GTX 512 would be cheaper.

So i guess the price drop will be everywhere when the 7900 hits in a week.

As for the 7800 GTX 512 being "discontinued", it may be a PR move to cover up the fact that very few of those cards were ever even produced.

As for your impatience, your justification for buying right now is based on assumptions for which I see very little underlying evidence.

You cannot state that the availability will be poor. The X1900XT just came out with massive availability, and so did the "non-512mb" 7800 cards. The 7800GTX 512 was a "PR-edition" card that was only made so that nVidia could briefly claim to have the fastest graphics card on the market because they knew it would beat the X1800 cards.

As for price, why don't you look for a 7800GTX 512mb right now? You should be able to use MunkyMark to compare the performace of it to the new 7900 cards (theoretically). Do a quick price/performance comparison and see which card gets more frames per dollar.

My guess is that you will pay more right now for a 7800GTX 512 than you will for a 7900GTX the day it comes out.

Oh, and just FYI, 512mb of video memory isn't *that* important right now. It can gain you 20% in performance in many cases right now and is definately more future proof, but I wouldn't say it's a "make-or-break" feature ATM. :beer:

 

[xMax]

I only made that assumption because the X1800XT and the 7800GTX 512 were extremely difficult to get when they debuted. But now i know that the 7800GTX 512 was only difficult to find because it was a PR-edition card, and i think the X1800XT was slow to come out because of some uncommon reason. So i guess i was wrong.

With that said, maybe it would be a good idea for me to wait it out a week and get the 7900 GTX 512.

But im not actually getting it for gaming performance, but actually for media playback and compatibility with my monitor, and for this reason i may just get the 7800GTX 256. Of course, i will also wait that one out for about a week since its price is going to also drop considerably.

But unless im mistaken, the 7800GTX 512 was going for an average of about 800$ through online resellers, and for it to come down to about 400$, as staited in the title of the thread, then that is nearly 50% off, which is a crazy drop in price and definitely worth the wait.

Im going to check out this MunkyMark thing your talking about.

I'll be back...

 

[SickBeast]

Originally posted by: xMax
I only made that assumption because the X1800XT and the 7800GTX 512 were extremely difficult to get when they debuted. But now i know that the 7800GTX 512 was only difficult to find because it was a PR-edition card, and i think the X1800XT was slow to come out because of some uncommon reason. So i guess i was wrong.

With that said, maybe it would be a good idea for me to wait it out a week and get the 7900 GTX 512.

But im not actually getting it for gaming performance, but actually for media playback and compatibility with my monitor, and for this reason i may just get the 7800GTX 256. Of course, i will also wait that one out for about a week since its price is going to also drop considerably.

But unless im mistaken, the 7800GTX 512 was going for an average of about 800$ through online resellers, and for it to come down to about 400$, as staited in the title of the thread, then that is nearly 50% off, which is a crazy drop in price and definitely worth the wait.

Im going to check out this MunkyMark thing your talking about.

I'll be back...

Ah yes, the MunkyMark.

This is actually the perfect time to use my brainchild software. :beer:

If all you want is a good media card, you would be much better served by a cheap ATI X1300 card or else the cheapest 7-series GeForce card you can get your hands on. There is no sense in buying such a high-end card if that's all you want it for.

Do you need H.264 hardware acceleration?

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: SickBeast

Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
If the prices of 299 for the 7900GT is true. Then the price of the 7600GT could be around the MSRP of $199. ($249 would make NO sense as the 7900GT would kill the 7600 series sales).

If $299 for the new GT is true, that's simply incredible IMO. More than likely cards will sell for $250 if availability is good. There's no way in the world that the X1900XT is twice as fast as the 7900GT (but it potentially costs twice as much).

I have a feeling the 7900GTs will be a very interesting SLI option and will making high end buying decisions very difficult to figure out. HDR+AA is worth something. How much it's worth is the question.

Agreed as long as ATi doesn't release an X1900XL that performs on par with the GT for around the same price point. IMO ATi is in a position to charge a $50 premium on their parts just because they're more advanced.

The 6800GT was more advanced than the X800Pro, yet I seem to remember those cards costing the same amount. :Q

Yeah but keep in mind nVidia has always been financially well off compared to ATi. I know that isn't exactly what we're discussing but they were in a position to undercut the competition even when having the better tech. Inevitably ATi will have to price the X1900XL competitively with the 7900 GT if they want to compete in sales. Also another problem is mindshare, joe sixpack thinks of nVidia as the gold standard in video cards while ATi is still thought of as 2nd tier. Just go to Frys or BB sometime and see what the salesman and customers do/say.

 

[apoppin]

is there anyone here who thinks the pricing is BS?

it doesn't follow nVidia's prcing history all . . .

i expect their top card to be faster than rumoured and their prices to be higher than in the article.

flame my prediction all you want

i think many of you have a serious case of 'wishful thinking'

hope i am wrong [for buyer's sakes]

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: apoppin
is there anyone here who thinks the pricing is BS?

it doesn't follow nVidia's prcing history all . . .

i expect their top card to be faster than rumoured and their prices to be higher than in the article.

flame my prediction all you want

i think many of you have a serious case of 'wishful thinking'

hope i am wrong [for buyer's sakes]

I think initially the 7900 GTX will be around $550 but it will drop off to the $500 point quite fast. You have to keep in mind it's the same tech nVidia has sold the past year so its not like they had to invest much in R&D. Plus their die is smaller than ATi so they can afford to sell it at a cheaper price.

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: apoppin
is there anyone here who thinks the pricing is BS?

it doesn't follow nVidia's prcing history all . . .

i expect their top card to be faster than rumoured and their prices to be higher than in the article.

flame my prediction all you want

i think many of you have a serious case of 'wishful thinking'

hope i am wrong [for buyer's sakes]

I think initially the 7900 GTX will be around $550 but it will drop off to the $500 point quite fast. You have to keep in mind it's the same tech nVidia has sold the past year so its not like they had to invest much in R&D. Plus their die is smaller than ATi so they can afford to sell it at a cheaper price.

i'm just saying the "nVIDIA PRICE DROP-7800GTX512 $399, 7900GT $299, 7900GTX512 $499" is BS and likely significantly higher.

try $599 for their top card unless it is a real dog compared to the xTx.

MY prediction

 

[xMax]

Ah yes, the MunkyMark.

This is actually the perfect time to use my brainchild software.

If all you want is a good media card, you would be much better served by a cheap ATI X1300 card or else the cheapest 7-series GeForce card you can get your hands on. There is no sense in buying such a high-end card if that's all you want it for.

Do you need H.264 hardware acceleration?

Cant go with ATI. I had an X1800XT, but it had compatibility issues with my Eizo CG210 LCD display when connected via DVI. And this is stated on the Eizo site. Not my opinion. In fact, all ATI cards have this strange problem with many of the Eizo monitors. (Eizo is a world leader for high end LCD displays).

So then i got the 7800GTX 256 and all was great. The speckles i was seeing with the X1800XT, which was due to the incompatibility stated on the Eizo site, was completely gone. But the 7800GTX 256 was giving me all sorts of horizontal surge like lines on my display during bootup. This irritated me a lot. So i ended up returning the 7800GTX and purchased a 6600GT. That card produced the same clean image as the 7800GTX and booted without any artifacts. But then i discovered that the AVI animations im playing on my system, full screen 1600x1200x32 at 4FPS, kept clipping at the top right hand corner of my screen.

The problem is that i dont know why it was clipping. Im suspecting that it may have been the 128-bit memory bus and low pixel pipelines. So to assure myself that i dont have any problems, i have to get a 7800. And since ive already seen the 7800GTX work for me, where i just have to accept the bootup artifacts, then i cant take a chance by going after a lower card.

So this is why i must take a 7800GTX 256, 512, or the 7900GTX. I dont know what variations the 7900GTX comes in right now.

So thats my story.