NVIDIA preparing revised GTX 560 Ti with 448 cores

[happy medium]

quote:
"As we wait for next-gen 28nm GPUs, NVIDIA is preparing an upgrade for the popular GeForce GTX 560 Ti. Much like the GeForce GTX 260 was upgraded to GTX 260 (216 Core) in 2008, the GTX 560 Ti is set to be revised as GTX 560 Ti (448 Core). Despite the branding, the GTX 560 Ti (448 Core) has much more in common with GTX 570 than the vanilla GTX 560 Ti. "

http://vr-zone.com/articles/nvidia-preparing-revised-gtx-560-ti/13805.html



If this is true ,I bet they are going to release a gtx575 2.5gb and gtx585 3gb also.
Sounds intresting, a gtx560ti (448 core) 1.25gb, gtx575 2.5gb and gtx585 3gb with higher clocks and the same power consumption would be nice.

3 way sli capable gtx560ti also is a good thing.

 

[Lonyo]

It says in the article it will probably use more power than the GTX560.
Also, while 3-way SLI might be nice, less confusing naming would be more ideal.
One would assume that you can't SLI this GTX560Ti with other GTX560 Tis.

The timing is what is the weirdest thing though. Normally cut down chips are released with a short delay, but not massive, after stockpiles of defective chips have built up. We saw it with the HD5830 and the GTX465, but releasing a cut-down chip to harvest dies a year after original release seems really weird, unless yields have been really good in terms of getting 570 and 580 dies out, and they are going to release one card to push out their last defective 40nm GF110 dies before they start with 28nm products.

Would still have made 100000x more sense to call it a GTX565 though.

 

[waffleironhead]

So now they are moving on to a third version of the 560ti?

 

[Markbnj]

Damn, getting ready to punch the button on a 560ti and they go and announce this.

 

[4ghz]

Weird. Why not just call it gtx 565.

 

[toyota]

gf114 only has a max of 384sp so its not analogous to the gtx260 going from 192sp to 216sp. this is based on the 110 core of course which is getting cut down.

 

[WT]

Yet another GTX260 type fiasco. Naming conventions do not seem to be Nvidia's strong suit at all.

 

[RussianSensation]

Meh. It's very difficult to get excited about a "souped" up GTX560 Ti after seeing HD5870s sell for $180-200, GTX470 for $190-220 last summer, GTX480 for $200 last week, HD6950s that unlocked into 6970s for $230 in Jan-Feb of this year, etc. There have been so many good deals on cards with more or less similar performance in the last 12+ months.

Bring on 28nm HD7950/GTX670 for $300 with a 30-50%+ performance increase and then we are talking.

3 way sli capable gtx560ti also is a good thing.

Why would anyone spend $750+ on that when within 6 months two $350 28nm cards will most likely blow these away and consume less power? This entire 40nm generation dates back to September of 2009 when HD5870 launched. It's been two years of stagnation pretty much. They are just milking the market. I mean I can understand if these cards launch for $199 with GTX570 level of performance. But they better not be $275+.

 

[Leyawiin]

That's not a GTX 560 Ti. Its a cut down GTX 570. The naming should reflect that.

 

[toyota]

yeah this should be gtx570 SE or gtx565.

you should check out some of the oem cards because Nvidia has a gtx560ti already based on the gf110 core but it has 352sp. http://www.geforce.com/Hardware/GPUs/geforce-gtx-560-ti-oem

and another a gtx560 non ti that is still 110 based but has more 384sp. http://www.geforce.com/Hardware/GPUs/geforce-gtx-560-oem/specifications

 

[toyota]

Meh. It's very difficult to get excited about a "souped" up GTX560 Ti after seeing HD5870s sell for $180-200, GTX470 for $190-220 last summer, GTX480 for $200 last week, HD6950s that unlocked into 6970s for $230 in Jan-Feb of this year, etc. There have been so many good deals on cards with more or less similar performance in the last 12+ months.

Bring on 28nm HD7950/GTX670 for $300 with a 30-50%+ performance increase and then we are talking.



Why would anyone spend $700+ on that when within 6 months two $350 28nm cards will most likely blow these away and consume less power?

well one good thing about this new card is that it might be a better alternative than the 2gb gtx560 ti for most people.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Makes perfect sense! "Let's cannibalize our own GTX 570, guys."

In any case, if this comes with decent VRMs and costs $240 upfront with free shipping then it'd be a better buy than the HD 6950 1GB provided you don't care about the additional power consumption. It should also be called the GTX 565 instead.

Were those HD 5870s for $200 new cards?

 

[RussianSensation]

Were those HD 5870s for $200 new cards?

Yup $180-200 deals on brand new HD5870s. Obviously, not everyone can get on those deals as they sell out. I remember I saw an HD5870 Eyefinity 6 Edition for $180 even. Even if these cards are $240, HD6950 2GB sold for $230-240 8 months ago. Remember when you could get GTX460s for $80-120? Now those cards are hovering near $140. This happened with GTX260 216/HD4870/4890 too. They sold for ridiculously low prices at one point and then those deals disappeared. Whatever cards were left went up in price and then followed at least a 12 months glut of worse performing cards at the same price or way more expensive cards with barely any more performance. Things look almost as bad now since HD5850 owners who grabbed those cards for $270 in Sept of 2009 are probably yawning at today's offerings.

HD6870 is about $140 on Newegg right now. Two of those for $280-300 are about 20% faster than a GTX580. It's hard to get excited about high-end GPUs at the moment. I am hoping 28nm GPUs will change the current landscape.

 

[lavaheadache]

Yup $180-200 deals on brand new HD5870s. Obviously, not everyone can get on those deals as they sell out. I remember I saw an HD5870 Eyefinity 6 Edition for $180 even.

Yeah, it was a sapphire one.

Anyhow, I see know reason what so ever for the card to be called a 560 ti. All this does is serve up confusion.

Nvidia has done this time and time again. 8800 GTS (I'm not even gonna get started on this one)... GTX 260... now GTX 560ti. Would it really be that bad for them to call it something different.

What is different about this than cutting down GTX 480 cores and calling it a GTX 470 and then down another notch and calling it a GTX 465. I'll tell you waht the real reason is. It's because they are trying to capitalize of a name.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Yet another GTX260 type fiasco. Naming conventions do not seem to be Nvidia's strong suit at all.

Yea, it's hard to understand how the people at Nvidia decided that the GTX560Ti name makes the most sense for this part. Unless maybe it'll be downclocked to a point that it's performance is nearly identical to the current GTX560Ti? Who knows, I'm just guessing here.

 

[lavaheadache]

HD6870 is about $140 on Newegg right now. Two of those for $280-300 are about 20% faster than a GTX580. It's hard to get excited about high-end GPUs at the moment. I am hoping 28nm GPUs will change the current landscape.

You are missing one thing, and it happens to be a major factor to some of us. Microstuttering. I can tell immediately that a system is using dual gpu's. Put me infront of a controlled test and I could pick them out in less then the time it took to write this post.

You do have a point, but it doesn't pertain to everyone. For the rest of us, we prefer a single high powered card.

 

[RussianSensation]

Anyhow, I see know reason what so ever for the card to be called a 560 ti.

Ya, they should have called it GTX565. Naming is only going to get better from here once NV reaches GTX1000 series and AMD is at HD10000.

We'll have 2018 NV GTX 1300 going against an ATI X1300.

You do have a point, but it doesn't pertain to everyone. For the rest of us, we prefer a single high powered card.

Ya, I understand. I am saying, overall, there has barely been any change in performance since HD5870 came out in Sept of 2009. Why is GTX580 still $430+? It's ridiculous. We should have this type of performance for $200 already. Look at GTX480 that was on sale for $200-225. Imo, the only reason 40nm generation is still so expensive is because 28nm GPUs have been delayed for so long. The consumer has no choice but to wait or buy a $200-300 40nm GPU. Once 28nm GPUs launch, GTX580 will plummet.

 

[lavaheadache]

Ya, they should have called it GTX565. Naming is only going to get better from here once NV reaches GTX1000 series and AMD is at HD10000.

We'll have 2018 NV GTX 1300 going against an ATI X1300.



Ya, I understand. I am saying, overall, there has barely been any change in performance since HD5870 came out in Sept of 2009. Why is GTX580 still $430+? It's ridiculous. We should have this type of performance for $200 already. Look at GTX480 that was on sale for $200-225. Imo, the only reason 40nm generation is still so expensive is because 28nm GPUs have been delayed for so long. The consumer has no choice but to wait or buy a $200-300 40nm GPU. Once 28nm GPUs launch, GTX580 will plummet.

I did see the $200 480's (actually they came with a $25 rebate) and I bought 2 of them. One for each of my rigs and hopefully if I can bring myself to sell my 580 and put that loot toward the next gen cards when they come out.

 

[skipsneeky2]

God we have confusion over the 560 models .

Non ti/ti/new ti no doubt getting some sort of rename i hope or will we call it the 1.25gb gtx560?

 

[WT]

God we have confusion over the 560 models .

Non ti/ti/new ti no doubt getting some sort of rename i hope or will we call it the 1.25gb gtx560?

You forgot the soon to be announced SE and LE versions too !

 

[Arkadrel]

So now they are moving on to a third version of the 560ti?

^ this... seriously wtf?

why cant they just call it the 565 or something.

 

[skipsneeky2]

You forgot the soon to be announced SE and LE versions too !

Knowing how stupid marketing can get the gtx560 se will be a rebadged gtx460 right on down to the coreclock:awe:

Add insult to injury they price it even higher and we have another 5770/6770 fiasco on our hands :\

Lets hope for no se model.

 

[tviceman]

Nvidia is trying to make up for all the G92 re-badges, so they're doing to exact opposite and releasing 4 different products under the same name.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Nvidia is trying to make up for all the G92 re-badges, so they're doing to exact opposite and releasing 4 different products under the same name.

T3h winnar! XD

 

[Seero]

Nvidia is trying to make up for all the G92 re-badges, so they're doing to exact opposite and releasing 4 different products under the same name.

:thumbsup:

I am looking forward to the confusion when it comes to SLI.