Nvidia: Not Enough Money in a PS4 GPU for us to bother

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AnandThenMan

AnandThenMan

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How could Nvidia turn down a GPU contract they couldn't supply in the first place? No x86 tech means no way Nvidia could have presented a challenger to AMD's bid anyway.

Nvidia is talking **** basically.
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Sounds like Sour grapes to me.:thumbsdown:
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Definitely. It's also pretty funny the response from the usual suspects, ignore the original subject and make it all about how poorly AMD is doing.
 
biostud

biostud

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They don't want to spread their products too much.
AMD : Video cards + consoles + CPU's
nVidia: Video cards + Tegra/ARM
 
cmdrdredd

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AnandThenMan said:
How could Nvidia turn down a GPU contract they couldn't supply in the first place? No x86 tech means no way Nvidia could have presented a challenger to AMD's bid anyway.

Nvidia is talking **** basically.

Definitely. It's also pretty funny the response from the usual suspects, ignore the original subject and make it all about how poorly AMD is doing.
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you think AMD is making uber profits here? Hardly...

Nvidia doesn't care because they don't have to care.
 
AnandThenMan

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cmdrdredd said:
you think AMD is making uber profits here? Hardly...
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Has nothing to do with Nvidia supposedly turning down Sony.
Nvidia doesn't care because they don't have to care.
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Nvidia doesn't "care" aka they don't have a GPU in the PS4 because they can't supply one. Nvidia's company motto has always been "graphics in everything" there is no way they would turn down this opportunity, even if it meant just breaking even. Doing so would have meant shutting AMD out and benefiting from the PR of being in all the consoles, not to mention the synergy that crosses over into desktop GPUs.

Nvidia's public response is predictable and I would expect the very same from AMD if the roles were reversed. Don't confuse PR with reality.
Kenmitch said:
If you tried and lost, isn't it better to say you never wanted to win?
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Yep. Looks better than saying, well we bid and lost to our competitor, or worse we don't have the tech to even enter into the race.
 
AnandThenMan

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Where is the Nvidia bashing? All I see is how AMD fired a bunch of people and how terrible they are doing. News flash fanboys, AMD is allowed to succeed at something without you going all Nvidia defense force mode.
 
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thilanliyan

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This thread turned ugly pretty quickly lol.

IMO, there are several possibilities to why nVidia is not doing these next-gen consoles:
1)They couldn't provide a CPU/GPU combo...they sure as heck can provide a GPU but maybe Sony and MS wanted both from the same company.
2)They didn't want to divert resources away from other products
3)There really wasn't enough profit in it for them to care

Without inside info from nVidia, I'd say all those have equal probability.

Let's not turn this thread into one of THOSE ones eh? :)
GOOSEFRABA....GOOSEFRABA... :D
 
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cmdrdredd said:
you think AMD is making uber profits here? Hardly...

Nvidia doesn't care because they don't have to care.
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I think they will be making good money hear because the very vast majority of these SOC's components are a sunk cost. GCN, memory controller, I/O, CPU (jaguar is design for multiple "compute units") all standard and already paid for.

Only if you assume what the console makers want is what the only company within their price range offers.

I can't imagine anyone at Sony was overly ecstatic about a crappy 8 core Jaguar piggybacking in on that deal.
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How about you ask developers what they think instead of making dribble up. So far i have only seen glowing comments, you have to remember console devs are comming from a very poor RISC chip that has lots of nasty corner cases, they jsut had high peak vector throughput. They now have a chip with higher peak vector throughput, way higher sustained throughput across many more types of workloads and practically no corner cases. Jaguar has way higher IPC per thread and those are Big heavy CISC instructions which have multiple memory operations compared to the lighter RISC instruction sets used in Xenos/Cell.

Sony and MS could have gone with a trinity/SR based design and scaled out the ALU's but they didn't, i doubt AMD really care which way they went only that they picked one.

Like so many people like you who post rubblish like this I challenge you! you have a 150-160 watts of power design a SOC thats better.
 
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Nvidia doesn't have the tech for it. How could they compete with an AMD APU in price/performance/watt? Tegra isn't powerful enough and they have no X86 license. Nvidia has, for consoles, an inferior product and they can't dump prices enough to be competitive.
 
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Nexus 7 launched tegra in an amazing way.
The next nexus tablets will do even more with tegra 4.
Nvidia made a decision to invest in tegra....
AMD has no such product.
 
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