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Drayvn

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Originally posted by: BouZouki
I noticed the Inq mixed it up, its actually 800 mhz memory.

Thats what im thinking because i doubt just "tweaks" are needed to get twice the mhz for the core....
 

Cookie Monster

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800mhz.... generally, clock speed as INQ suggest would mean core clock speeds,,,
but then.. 800 is like over kill.
 

Excelsior

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Originally posted by: ddogg
woah this truly looks like a monster of a card. ATI could be in some serious trouble considering the fact they are already 3 - 4 months late.

No.
 

Cookie Monster

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Samsung is already mass producing 1.2ns GDDR3 rams clocked up to 1.66ghz, and could be used on the ultra version.

They said tweaking the core to be a bit more efficent then again they could be wrong, but simply a 7800GTX can reachbetween 470~530 on core speeds, according to many sites and ocers using stock cooling.

 

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Originally posted by: Cookie Monster
Samsung is already mass producing 1.2ns GDDR3 rams clocked up to 1.66ghz, and could be used on the ultra version.

They said tweaking the core to be a bit more efficent then again they could be wrong, but simply a 7800GTX can reachbetween 470~530 on core speeds, according to many sites and ocers using stock cooling.

1.66 GHz is effective. It's really only running at 833.33 MHz (1/1.2*1000). So it's just about borderline. This is assuming the 800 MHz rumor is not 800 MHz effective as well?
 

Soccerman06

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Samsung is already mass producing 1.2ns GDDR3 rams clocked up to 1.66ghz
Really? What video card uses 1.66ghz GDDR3

and I ment 1.6ghz :)

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Cookie Monster

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...the 7800GTX missed the 1.2ns so, i guess the new coming ones from maybe ATi and Nvidia will use them on the high end cards.
 
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Originally posted by: Acanthus
800mhz? no.

Transistor count is too high. A 110nm card wont do 800mhz with 24 pipes and a PVP.

The only way you will see clockspeeds like this is Direct Phase-change or LN2 on the core.

I would expect 625mhz at the most for stock speeds.

Edit: with very limited overclockablility at that speed (625).

If they could clock 800 so easily, you could be OCing ur 7800 to insane speeds.... This might just be some exaggerated info from INQ (as usual)
 

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BTW, Asus did have a single slot 6800Ultra, but i be happier with dual slot on thse new card with rear exhaust outside case.
 

jim1976

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: jim1976
Originally posted by: ddogg
woah this truly looks like a monster of a card. ATI could be in some serious trouble considering the fact they are already 3 - 4 months late.

Or you can see it the other way? Nvidia knows what R520 is capable of and rushing to release something when it will be released? ;)

We can play this game for days , why not just wait some more time and see? :)

What game are you playing exactly?


What do u mean? He said his opinion and I said that there's an alternative point of view..
 

RussianSensation

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Originally posted by: ddogg
woah this truly looks like a monster of a card. ATI could be in some serious trouble considering the fact they are already 3 - 4 months late.

ATI's original "official" date of release for R520 was July 26th. 7800GTX came out June 21st. This means they are not officially late yet. Also, not even 1 month has passed since nV's release.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Originally posted by: ddogg
woah this truly looks like a monster of a card. ATI could be in some serious trouble considering the fact they are already 3 - 4 months late.

ATI's original "official" date of release for R520 was July 26th. 7800GTX came out June 21st. This means they are not officially late yet. Also, not even 1 month has passed since nV's release.

I have said this a dozen times and I know you must have read it, but the time it takes from tape out to store shelves averages 120 days (4 months). Now, I don't see how they can push it faster, but if they can how much sooner do you think it could possibly be? 90 days? 75 days? I don't think this is something that can be rushed, but I don't know what "breakthroughs" have been made in the speed of tape out to wafer production to packaging. So I think about 3 months is a fair optomistic guess giving the benefit of the doubt that the news of the tape out was somehow a whole month after the fact.
 

Drayvn

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Originally posted by: ddogg
woah this truly looks like a monster of a card. ATI could be in some serious trouble considering the fact they are already 3 - 4 months late.

ATI's original "official" date of release for R520 was July 26th. 7800GTX came out June 21st. This means they are not officially late yet. Also, not even 1 month has passed since nV's release.

I have said this a dozen times and I know you must have read it, but the time it takes from tape out to store shelves averages 120 days (4 months). Now, I don't see how they can push it faster, but if they can how much sooner do you think it could possibly be? 90 days? 75 days? I don't think this is something that can be rushed, but I don't know what "breakthroughs" have been made in the speed of tape out to wafer production to packaging. So I think about 3 months is a fair optomistic guess giving the benefit of the doubt that the news of the tape out was somehow a whole month after the fact.

Ever thought they would and might release their other range of cards from the R5xx series...

 

xtknight

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Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Originally posted by: ddogg
woah this truly looks like a monster of a card. ATI could be in some serious trouble considering the fact they are already 3 - 4 months late.

ATI's original "official" date of release for R520 was July 26th. 7800GTX came out June 21st. This means they are not officially late yet. Also, not even 1 month has passed since nV's release.

I have said this a dozen times and I know you must have read it, but the time it takes from tape out to store shelves averages 120 days (4 months). Now, I don't see how they can push it faster, but if they can how much sooner do you think it could possibly be? 90 days? 75 days? I don't think this is something that can be rushed, but I don't know what "breakthroughs" have been made in the speed of tape out to wafer production to packaging. So I think about 3 months is a fair optomistic guess giving the benefit of the doubt that the news of the tape out was somehow a whole month after the fact.

How do you know this? Have you worked in the semiconductor/fabrication industry? I'm just curious.
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Drayvn
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Originally posted by: ddogg
woah this truly looks like a monster of a card. ATI could be in some serious trouble considering the fact they are already 3 - 4 months late.

ATI's original "official" date of release for R520 was July 26th. 7800GTX came out June 21st. This means they are not officially late yet. Also, not even 1 month has passed since nV's release.

I have said this a dozen times and I know you must have read it, but the time it takes from tape out to store shelves averages 120 days (4 months). Now, I don't see how they can push it faster, but if they can how much sooner do you think it could possibly be? 90 days? 75 days? I don't think this is something that can be rushed, but I don't know what "breakthroughs" have been made in the speed of tape out to wafer production to packaging. So I think about 3 months is a fair optomistic guess giving the benefit of the doubt that the news of the tape out was somehow a whole month after the fact.

Ever thought they would and might release their other range of cards from the R5xx series...

Oh, I'm sorry. Is that what we were talking about here? I believe all references for the most part (Russian Sensation's imparticular whom which I quoted) were toward the R520. Correct me if I'm wrong. Please.

 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: xtknight
Originally posted by: keysplayr2003
Originally posted by: RussianSensation
Originally posted by: ddogg
woah this truly looks like a monster of a card. ATI could be in some serious trouble considering the fact they are already 3 - 4 months late.

ATI's original "official" date of release for R520 was July 26th. 7800GTX came out June 21st. This means they are not officially late yet. Also, not even 1 month has passed since nV's release.

I have said this a dozen times and I know you must have read it, but the time it takes from tape out to store shelves averages 120 days (4 months). Now, I don't see how they can push it faster, but if they can how much sooner do you think it could possibly be? 90 days? 75 days? I don't think this is something that can be rushed, but I don't know what "breakthroughs" have been made in the speed of tape out to wafer production to packaging. So I think about 3 months is a fair optomistic guess giving the benefit of the doubt that the news of the tape out was somehow a whole month after the fact.

How do you know this? Have you worked in the semiconductor/fabrication industry? I'm just curious.

No, I am not in the semiconductor biz. But interested in it enough to read many chock full o facts articles about what is involved. From the design on the table, to the actual wafer production. It really is mind blowing all the resources and time this stuff takes. That's why when some people say "Why can't ATI just whip it out?" I just shake my head. It's not that simple. It is a TONNNNN of procedures and a few more tons of QA (Quality Assurance) control on top of it all which is necessary.

 

obeseotron

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Why shouldn't nVidia and ATI make $700 or even $1000 cards? AMD and Intel sell $1000 CPUs that are a lot cheaper to produce than graphics boards with GPUs bigger than those CPUs plus a ton of RAM and other stuff. Obviously they're not gonna sell too many, but leadership in the performance segment is a marketing thing as much as anything else. I would call the pricing of video cards much fairer than that of CPUs. A $150 CPU is often 75% as fast as a $1000 one, sometimes more. A pair of 7800GTXs is probably 4 times faster single 6600GT at high resolution, maybe more - think about the comparable CPU comparison. Anyone think a FX57 is 4 times as fast as a 3200+ at anything?
 

Keysplayr

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Originally posted by: Crescent13
NEVER TRUST ANYTHING FROM THE INQUIRER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

that is all.

Never trust a man who has a bunny with world domination on it's mind in his sig. ;)

And that is all.