nVIDIA Geforce 6600?

[LordPhoenix]

You guys heard of this? I heard it's coming out later this year and it's going to be around $200. Damn that might kill 9800 PRO sales. (Hope 9800 goes down to $150).

http://www.nvidia.com/object/IO_14976.html

From nVIDIA Press :::

NVIDIA Introduces the GeForce 6600 GPU?A Gamer's Dream for DOOM 3

NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GPUs are First to Offer Supercharged Performance, SLI Multi-GPU Support and Shader Model 3.0 Features at Mainstream Prices

For further information, contact:

Brian Burke
NVIDIA Corporation
(512) 401-4385
bburke@nvidia.com

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE:

QUAKECON 2004?GRAPEVINE, TX?AUGUST 12, 2004?NVIDIA Corporation (Nasdaq: NVDA), the worldwide leader in visual processing solutions, today introduced the GeForce? 6600 GT and GeForce 6600, the latest additions to its GeForce 6 Series of graphics processing units (GPUs). These new products bring the feature set of NVIDIA?s flagship GeForce 6800 GPU, including support for Microsoft® DirectX® 9.0 Shader Model 3.0 and NVIDIA?s revolutionary UltraShadow II technology, to the mainstream market. The GeForce 6600 GT rips through DOOM 3? at a stunning 42 frames per second at high quality, high-resolution (1600x1200x32) settings .

?NVIDIA's latest generation of chipsets gives exceptional performance and feature gains across the entire line, from the consumer cards to the specialty cards. I use a GeForce 6800 class card in my primary workstation, which is the best endorsement I can give,? said John Carmack, president and technical director of id Software.?

The GeForce 6600 GPUs will be featured in live demonstrations starting today at QuakeCon, which is being held August 12-15 at the Gaylord Texan Resort and Convention Center in Grapevine, Texas.

?Critics have called the GeForce 6 architecture the most advanced in the industry, and GeForce 6600 GPUs mean the cost of that bleeding-edge graphics technology just got cut in half for gamers,? said Dan Vivoli executive vice president of marketing for NVIDIA. ?DOOM 3, the most anticipated game of the year, and the mind blowing price/performance ratio of GeForce 6600 GPUs?that is what gamers? dreams are made of.?

As an extension of the award-winning GeForce 6 Series, these two new graphics processors are the first mainstream GPUs to support Microsoft DirectX 9.0 Shader Model 3.0, and a superscalar architecture for unprecedented performance. GeForce 6600 GPUs also feature a dedicated on-chip video processor that brings consumer electronics-quality video to the personal computer. In addition, the GeForce 6600 GT brings the innovative NVIDIA® SLI? multi-GPU technology to the mainstream market, which could enable millions of users to experience the power of two GPUs in their system.

Backed by the NVIDIA ForceWare? software suite and Unified Driver Architecture (UDA), the GeForce 6600 GPUs ensure industry-renowned compatibility and reliability for a great user experience.

The newest additions to the GeForce 6 Series of GPUs include:

The GeForce 6600 GT?The NVIDIA GeForce 6600 GT has an eight pipe superscalar design, supports 128MB of GDDR3 graphics memory, includes NVIDIA SLI multi-GPU technology, and has a suggested street price of $199.

The GeForce 6600?The GeForce 6600 GPU also has an eight pipe superscalar design and supports 128MB of DDR graphics memory.

The GeForce 6600 and GeForce 6600 GT GPUs are expected to be available in late-September from the world?s leading add-in-card manufacturers, including:

-Albatron Technology, Co. Ltd
-Anextek
-AOpen
-ASUS Computer International
-BFG Technologies, Inc.
-Biostar
-Chaintech Computer Co. Ltd.
-ELSA Japan
-eVGA.com Corporation
-Gainward Co., Ltd.
-Gigabyte Technology, Co., Ltd.
-InsideTNC
-Leadtek Research, Inc.
-Micro-Star International
-Palit Microsystems, Inc.
-Pine, XFX, a Division of Pine
-PNY Technologies
-Prolink Computer Inc
-Sigmacomm
-Sparkle



For additional details and list of partners, please log on to http://www.nvidia.com.

 

[SneakyStuff]

Once they come out, the 9800 pro is obsolete. Those babys have MASSIVE shading performance.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

The 6600GT will be the 9800 Pro killer. BUT, it will only be going to OEM manufacturers initially AND will be exclusivly PCI-Ex until they switch it to AGP which won't be a snap given that it's built to run off the power from just the PCI-Ex slot.

 

[LordPhoenix]

Wait. So, it will be PCI-E? Will there be AGP versions of it?

 

[Runner20]

I am sure ATI will release a value vid card by then also, so its not as clear how much of a home run 6600 is

 

[Gagabiji]

Doesn't ATI have a X600 and X300 or something like that coming out...some...time?

 

[LordPhoenix]

Oh I just checked. They're going to release the AGP version later I guess...

6600 Reg will be $149 and GT will be $199. W00T Hope 9800 Pro gets down to 100.

 

[araczynski]

i think the 6600's are PCI-E only, at least that's what would be needed for the SLI capability (2 PCI slots)....but then again i suppose you could make it AGP and then HOPE some brave mobo maker takes a huge risk on pressing some dual AGP slots for a very small market... (if sli is even capable in agp)

and yeah, ati's putting out the x600 line, so its not like the 9800 will have to answer the 6600, it'll be between x600 and 6600.

why is anyone comparing the new 6000 lines to the old 9800 line? that's like apples and oranges

 

[LordPhoenix]

Best Bang for Buck Comparison.

 

[Runner20]

Originally posted by: araczynski
i think the 6600's are PCI-E only, at least that's what would be needed for the SLI capability (2 PCI slots)....but then again i suppose you could make it AGP and then HOPE some brave mobo maker takes a huge risk on pressing some dual AGP slots for a very small market... (if sli is even capable in agp)

and yeah, ati's putting out the x600 line, so its not like the 9800 will have to answer the 6600, it'll be between x600 and 6600.

why is anyone comparing the new 6000 lines to the old 9800 line? that's like apples and oranges

i think we have ati and nvidia wars starting all over again

 

[dmw16]

Graphics wars can only mean good things for us.

As for nVidia not having a home run in the budget line, unless ATi pulls a rabbit out of its hat, then nVidia probably has it. Assuming the budget GPUs compare to each other the way the high end cards d.

 

[SneakyStuff]

Originally posted by: LordPhoenix
Oh I just checked. They're going to release the AGP version later I guess...

6600 Reg will be $149 and GT will be $199. W00T Hope 9800 Pro gets down to 100.

Lowering the 9800 Pro to $100 would be a very good tactic to combat this card.

 

[thorin]

Originally posted by: araczynski
i think the 6600's are PCI-E only, at least that's what would be needed for the SLI capability (2 PCI slots)....but then again i suppose you could make it AGP and then HOPE some brave mobo maker takes a huge risk on pressing some dual AGP slots for a very small market... (if sli is even capable in agp)

1) Alot of people seem to think the 6600 will come out in AGP shortly after the PCI-E version (TechReport quote)

Like ATI's RV370, NV43 has a native PCI Express interface. NV43 is NVIDIA's first native PCI-E chip, and cards based on the GPU will initially be PCI Express-only. Although NVIDIA isn't ready to talk about AGP implementations of NV43 just yet, the company will use its bi-directional High Speed Interconnect (HSI) chip to bridge NV43 to AGP at some point after the GeForce 6600's release.

2) Why would you spend the money on 2 AGP 6600s when you could buy a single 6800 for roughly the same perf? (At least I think we'll find it's roughly the same....time will tell, but the number leads in that direction)

Thorin

 

[Runner20]

Originally posted by: SneakyStuff

Originally posted by: LordPhoenix
Oh I just checked. They're going to release the AGP version later I guess...

6600 Reg will be $149 and GT will be $199. W00T Hope 9800 Pro gets down to 100.

Lowering the 9800 Pro to $100 would be a very good tactic to combat this card.

the ati radeon 9700 pro of 2 years ago performs very well even today, so even that will perform well against 6600 ---- radeon 9700 pro at $90 maybe?

 

[Megatomic]

Originally posted by: araczynski
why is anyone comparing the new 6000 lines to the old 9800 line? that's like apples and oranges

Because unless ATI lowers the price of the 9800P, they'll be direct competitors dollar for dollar. I've already got a 9800P but I'm considering getting an AGP8X 6600GT when they are available so that I can have SM3.0 support for future games.

 

[KillaKilla]

Wait... let me get this strait. Nvidia released a budget version of the 6800 for PCI-E only? Wha?

I somehow get the fealing htat I'm either missing something, or am being misled. Releasing a card for PCI-E only just doesn't make sense to me... seeeing as less than 1% of MBs have it, and by the end of the year this (gamer/OCer/enthusiast) community will probobly only breach the 5% mark on owning a PCI-E MB, much having 5% of our MBs have it.

Also, what core is it using? will it (posibly) be flashable to a 6800 gt/U speeds? even just 6800 speeds?

EDIT: will it have 8, 12, or 16 pipes? will the SLI be there on AGP versions? Will da bears win the superbowl? When is the AGP version coming out?

Also, when will ATI and Nvidia have a non marketting-controlled part of their website? Finding out real stuff other that the constant assurance that the Geforce 256 sweep the floor with R800, and that the Rage 128 will beat NV62!

 

[randomlinh]

umm.. why is there talk of dual agp by some of you? isn't there not enough bandwidth to do it? That and... no motherboard manufacture in their right mind would attempt it.. hell, is it even technically possilble?

with that said... I hope this isn't just a hyped up paper launch... the 6600GT would be really nice to have for doom3. At the rate I'm playing, I'll only be midway through the game by November.. heh

 

[magomago]

Originally posted by: SirDude
Doesn't ATI have a X600 and X300 or something like that coming out...some...time?

X600 is a 9600 that is PCI-E. HAven't heard X300 but I wouldn't expect much outta it


and if 9800pros became 100 dollars...I'd just all over that and break my promise never to spend more than 50 dollars on a video card (which i've successfuly done)

 

[Demo24]

the x600 is a 9600 with a PCIe brige. a cheap way to get out of amking a full one. the x300 is like a 9200.

the 6600's use a new core Nv43. It has either 8 or 12. its lower than the 6800. So its not a budget 6800. its a bugdet line of cards.

and dual agp? That is so extremel unlikely. its gonna be dual PCI-e only for SLI. if you wnat AGP wait for themt o come out and can only buy one.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: DEMO24
the x600 is a 9600 with a PCIe brige. a cheap way to get out of amking a full one. the x300 is like a 9200.

the 6600's use a new core Nv43. It has either 8 or 12. its lower than the 6800. So its not a budget 6800. its a bugdet line of cards.

and dual agp? That is so extremel unlikely. its gonna be dual PCI-e only for SLI. if you wnat AGP wait for themt o come out and can only buy one.

X300 is like 9600SE actually, since it's a 9600 core, not a 9200 core. It's the budget end of the line.

x600/x300 are ALREADY OUT and were basically the first PCI-E graphics cards, a stop gap until ATi release new parts for the mid range based on their R4xx tech.

PCI-E is the future slot, so nVidia made the 6600 core PCI-E native, hence the initial release on PCI-E, and an AGP bridged version later, because it takes time tro impliment a bridged solution.

6600's all have 8 pipes, GT running at 500MHz, non-GT running at 300MHz.
It is the mid range line of cards for nVidia, the 6800 cards being the high end (even the 6800 standard is high end, since it's $300).

 

[Treyshadow]

Man the 6600's in SLI they showed at quakecon smoked.

They were easily on par with the 6800 Ultra OC they had against it

 

[SLCentral]

These looks friggin' awesome, I think I'll grab a 6600GT if it ever comes on AGP for my Shuttle XPC to replace my 9800 Pro. Keep in mind that 9800 Pro prices will skyrcoket down, and will most likely be able to had for under $150, so it's still a great deal.

 

[ku]

Yeah, I can't wait for the 6600 comes out. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to wait for the AGP version T_T. Hopefully, these things can do all the things Nvidia says they can do... guess we'll just have to wait for the benchmarks to see if they can live up to the hype. But if they do, it's the next Ti4200! w00t!

 

[SneakyStuff]

Let's get our facts straight here people, the 6600 notches over 8K on 3dmark03, and is capable of playing doom3 either at 1600 x 1200, or 1024 x 768, with AA/AF. It outperforms both the 9800 pro, and 9700 pro, by up to 20% in some cases. That's why lowering the 9800 pro prices would be the best way to compete for now.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

I don't think we'll be seeing any AGP 6600GTs period. The 6800LE will be at the identical $199 price point and will perform equally if not slightly better than the 6600GT. It makes no sense for NVidia to compete with themselves...each card, as it currently stands, appeals to a different buyer depending on the motherboard they have.