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Nvidia cuts prices on all their GPUs in the 900 Series

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So it isn't a big deal as it pertains to the performance of the card, only the way you feel Nvidia handled it. :thumbsup:
 
96Firebird said:
So it isn't a big deal as it pertains to the performance of the card, only the way you feel Nvidia handled it. :thumbsup:
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I said exactly how I feel. Don't put words in that I didn't type.

Suppose I sold you a vinyl lounge suite claiming it's leather? You find out and I tell you that it's exactly like the one you sat on at the store so piss off. Go complain to someone else. Think you might have a problem with that?


Or VW passing pollution tests under test conditions? Then when caught they say, they passed your tests, it's not any different than the ones you certified. :/
 
tential said:
Also, so supposedly Fury X will end up faster than the 980Ti according to many AMD fans.

So where are you guys with your Fury X? I've seen tons of people who are self reported AMD fans defend Fury X, and Fiji's release in general. I've seen ZERO of these people own a Fiji chip. In fact, the Fiji owners on here are few and far between. I think there are more 980Ti SLI users than Fury X owners.....
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Err... practically even fewer people are using a 980Ti SLI when they have Titan X
 
tential said:
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It's too bad they don't use more cards and do more reviews.
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wow I really really like the fact that the graph lists the settings in more detail.
 
I love it when we see the price cuts. The only truly reliable indicator that AMD/nVidia think the new chips are actually imminent, and they're betting cash on it. 14/16nm is not long now.
 
3DVagabond said:
The big deal is that nVidia blatantly lied and mislead the consumer with false claims to reviewers. People paid their money and then found out afterwards they hadn't bought the product that was pitched to them. It went on for months and they never corrected it. Not until they were caught did they say anything. Then not even an apology just that it was a communication mistake internally. If you have an issue contact the retailer you bought it from. If they won't help you contact the AIB. Don't bother calling nVidia, the perpetrators of the misinformation, because they won't do squat for you. And it wasn't just VRAM either. They just blatantly misrepresented the specs. So, even though you don't seem to think it's a big deal, nVidia obviously disagrees and are willing to use false marketing claims to hide it.
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And this makes the card obsolete next year @ 1080p how? Oh, Nvidia is just a big old meanie pie. I get it, but it still is irrelevant. If that is why you want to get a 390 or whatever, help yourself. Doesn't mean next year the 970 will all of a sudden be worthless. That is just a concocted false narrative that just doesn't hold water.

If more than 4GB of VRAM were really all that important, do you think AMD would have released the Fury as a 4K card with only 4GB of VRAM?

All present gen cards will be dwarfed by Radeon and Nvidia's new GPU's since the die shrink is going to be almost doubled. But, that doesn't mean all of a sudden present gen cards will be worthless, especially at resolutions like 1080p.

Come on people.
 
railven said:
Well that's because I just read none of AMD's cards are being shown with their full potential. That classic "Wait and see" trademark lives on.

Eventually, these cards will shine! So, every one should gobble them up day 1 at their highest MSRP so poor AMD can report a win - ignore that today these aren't that polished. But maybe tomorrow, you'll see!
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How is that a trademark? Amd cards generally age better, because they have better hardware specs. Nvidia has better software, which gives them the lead at the start.

Personally, I don't buy flagship cards, so I would rather have better performance later down the road when it will matter more.
 
Teizo said:
And this makes the card obsolete next year @ 1080p how? Oh, Nvidia is just a big old meanie pie. I get it, but it still is irrelevant. If that is why you want to get a 390 or whatever, help yourself. Doesn't mean next year the 970 will all of a sudden be worthless. That is just a concocted false narrative that just doesn't hold water.

If more than 4GB of VRAM were really all that important, do you think AMD would have released the Fury as a 4K card with only 4GB of VRAM?

All present gen cards will be dwarfed by Radeon and Nvidia's new GPU's since the die shrink is going to be almost doubled. But, that doesn't mean all of a sudden present gen cards will be worthless, especially at resolutions like 1080p.

Come on people.
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Again, I don't care what people buy. You are really fixated on this. Also, it wasn't the amount of VRAM. Also, AMD has absolutely nothing to do with nVidia's scumbaggery.

"nVidia is just a big old meanie pie" I'm not even sure what to say to that. :\

The 970 is likely to suck next year because Pascal will be out and nVidia will need to make it look a good as possible. Even if it means not supporting Maxwell, like they've done to Kepler.
 
3DVagabond said:
The big deal is that nVidia blatantly lied and mislead the consumer with false claims to reviewers. People paid their money and then found out afterwards they hadn't bought the product that was pitched to them. It went on for months and they never corrected it. Not until they were caught did they say anything. Then not even an apology just that it was a communication mistake internally. If you have an issue contact the retailer you bought it from. If they won't help you contact the AIB. Don't bother calling nVidia, the perpetrators of the misinformation, because they won't do squat for you. And it wasn't just VRAM either. They just blatantly misrepresented the specs. So, even though you don't seem to think it's a big deal, nVidia obviously disagrees and are willing to use false marketing claims to hide it.
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GTX 970 is performance same as it is advertised not like 8 CPU Cores are performing same as intel Core i3.
 
Nvidia supports Kepler. Kepler mid range just doesn't have the legs GCN had. Higher end Kepler is still doing pretty well. I know It's important to create the illusion that Nvidia Kepler performance tanked and so must Maxwell. Don't buy Maxwell or you'll suffer the same fate. But come on man, anyone can see (scratch that, most anyone) that you and a few others continue to blow this out of proportion to try and scare the sales away from Nvidia products over to AMD. That is plain.
 
I want to see some Titan X price cuts. I refuse to buy the cut down card. I don't really like that the only way to get the full maxwell chip right now is to light a grand on fire.

Keys, sell me that X at a reasonable price then upgrade that dinosaur of a rig that you are running.
 
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lavaheadache said:
I want to see some Titan X price cuts. I refuse to buy the cut down card. I don't really like that the only way to get the full maxwell chip right now is to light a grand on fire.

Keys, sell me that X at a reasonable price then upgrade that dinosaur of a rig that you are running.
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Lava, I have been wanting to upgrade the platform for years now. But Intel just isn't wowing me into doing that over this Sandy. I thought Skylake would be IT, but it just turned out meh.

Ivy, Haswell, Broadwell, and Skylake. Maybe 5 mehs will add up to one wow next gen.
 
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Lava, I have been wanting to upgrade the platform for years now. But Intel just isn't wowing me into doing that over this Sandy. I thought Skylake would be IT, but it just turned out meh.

Ivy, Haswell, Broadwell, and Skylake. Maybe 5 mehs will add up to one wow next gen.
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With the Devil's Canyon and Kabylake Detours, it may take even longer now to get a WOW chip.
 
desprado said:
GTX 970 is performance same as it is advertised not like 8 CPU Cores are performing same as intel Core i3.
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Which is completely irrelevant. Nvidia told all the review sites that the 970 had the exact same ROP count and L2 cache as the 980. Which, as it turns outs, it doesn't. And they didn't bother correcting their "mistake" for over four months until they were called out on it after people starting identifying the 970's oddly performing 3.5GB + 0.5GB memory configuration.
 
mysticjbyrd said:
How is that a trademark? Amd cards generally age better, because they have better hardware specs. Nvidia has better software, which gives them the lead at the start.
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It always seems that either for CPU or GPU, it is a common concept to "wait" for performance to arrive. There is nothing inherently wrong with this, but it does get a tad tiring, more so if AMD is going to try to charge the same as Nvidia, they better have the performance day 1.

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Personally, I don't buy flagship cards, so I would rather have better performance later down the road when it will matter more.
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I always bought flagship AMD/ATI single GPU cards. A few times I bought the X2 variants. The difference back then wasn't that I was waiting for performance to arrive to bring parity with Nvidia. They cost less, so I expected them to perform less, and I had no issue with that.
 
littleg said:
That's all well and good building for the future but the problem is people are buying GPUs for NOW. So whoop, AMDs current lineup might have an advantage over Maxwell in DX12 but there are new GPUs coming out in a few months and i'd bet that Nvidia will have them optimised for the new DX12 stuff.

Nvidia is crushing the market because they market their products well and they build for what people want today, not in 5 years time.
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Exactly. I learned this back in the NV30 vs R300 release. Waiting around for the newest API to be used for the hardware to shine is futile. It takes years for the newest API to become the standard. DX12 may become truly relevant in 2017. By that time Fury X and 980s will be old news.
 
railven said:
It always seems that either for CPU or GPU, it is a common concept to "wait" for performance to arrive. There is nothing inherently wrong with this, but it does get a tad tiring, more so if AMD is going to try to charge the same as Nvidia, they better have the performance day 1.



I always bought flagship AMD/ATI single GPU cards. A few times I bought the X2 variants. The difference back then wasn't that I was waiting for performance to arrive to bring parity with Nvidia. They cost less, so I expected them to perform less, and I had no issue with that.
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Amd fans have pushed waiting for performance with the fx lines and gpus.
The market completely disagrees. So amd should change their strategy but they won't. I mean what if I bought an fx8350 based on future performance?
Id be a lot warmer right now though....
Amd can keep charging the same prices as nvidia though. I just won't purchase new then and will wait til they're used and sell at their real values.
 
tential said:
Amd fans have pushed waiting for performance with the fx lines and gpus.
The market completely disagrees. So amd should change their strategy but they won't. I mean what if I bought an fx8350 based on future performance?
Id be a lot warmer right now though....
Amd can keep charging the same prices as nvidia though. I just won't purchase new then and will wait til they're used and sell at their real values.
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It seems that is what a good chunk of AMD users are resorting to. They are not biting at launch for whatever reason but buying used/refurbished/steep_discount. That is definitely the smarter thing to do as a consumer, but is definitely not helping AMD out.

AMD seems to be caught between a rock and a hard place. Damned if you, damned if you don't.
 
railven said:
It seems that is what a good chunk of AMD users are resorting to. They are not biting at launch for whatever reason but buying used/refurbished/steep_discount. That is definitely the smarter thing to do as a consumer, but is definitely not helping AMD out.

AMD seems to be caught between a rock and a hard place. Damned if you, damned if you don't.
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That's AMD's fault for re-releasing the same cards again and again. Why buy the new version when you can buy it second hand for half the price with a 2 at the start of the model number not a 3. Unless you want fury (which hardly anyone does because nvidia sells a faster card for the same price) the AMD market is pretty well saturated.
 
Dribble said:
That's AMD's fault for re-releasing the same cards again and again. Why buy the new version when you can buy it second hand for half the price with a 2 at the start of the model number not a 3. Unless you want fury (which hardly anyone does because nvidia sells a faster card for the same price) the AMD market is pretty well saturated.
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Yup, it just made it cheaper for me to get an R9 290 used. Although it also shows that AMD had great chips as they're STILL competitive on the performance side even today. If they had the same driver support now they did at launch, we'd be talking about how AMD has the best GPUs. Instead, by the time AMD has driver's down and performing well for a GPU, we've all moved on...
 
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