Discussion Nvidia Blackwell in Q1-2025

[utahraptor]

I have the newest driver (576.28) loaded now that was released and I still have lots of issues. I still have to turn off GSYNC while I'm working or if I minimize the horizon client the driver crashes. It will recover, but it takes a few minutes. Anyone else using that client with a 5000 series card?

 

[Tup3x]

They broke driver anisotropic filtering in some games. Seems to mostly affect UE4 games. Enabling it will cause green/red texture corruption. It's kinda incredible that some games even include ray training yet offer piss poor texture filtering (I'm looking at you, Wuthering Waves). Kinda odd that it's broken with 5000 series but fine with older cards. Hopefully they'll fix it soon.

Other than that I haven't had issues (although I haven't really had time to play).

 

[poke01]

Kinda odd that it's broken with 5000 series

Oh that’s not odd, what would be odd is if it wasn’t broken on 5000 series

 

[Tup3x]

Oh that’s not odd, what would be odd is if it wasn’t broken on 5000 series

I really do wonder what they are doing. I kinda understand display related issues since quite a bit has changed there but the rest...

 

[SolidQ]

NV announce RTX 5060 for 300$

 

[GodisanAtheist]

NV announce RTX 5060 for 300$

-More MFG nonsense slides? So I take it 5060 is going to land maybe 10-15% higher than it's predecessors in most standard scenarios?

 

[SolidQ]

o I take it 5060 is going to land maybe 10-15% higher than it's predecessors in most standard scenarios?

There is RE4 on screen. Real perf

 

[Tup3x]

There's a reason why they aren't talking about latency in those slides... 🤪

 

[Mopetar]

-More MFG nonsense slides? So I take it 5060 is going to land maybe 10-15% higher than it's predecessors in most standard scenarios?

Someone with Photoshop skills should combine those bars with an image of JHH as Pinocchio and the DLSS 4 bar for the 5060 being his nose.

What's more concerning is what kind of idiocy they'll need to invent for the next generation to have even bigger bars. Does it count as a new frame if you just send the same completed frame ten times in a row every 2 ms?

 

[igor_kavinski]

I really do wonder what they are doing. I kinda understand display related issues since quite a bit has changed there but the rest...

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Probably put their star driver developers on WinARM to meet self inflicted deadlines.

 

[ValidUsername]

I feel like "nothing" has happened since 3000 series. I still have my 3070 sitting in the HTPC, every now and then, I feel like I should upgrade, but then I get reminded by these announcements that I'm still good (especially for non-4k gaming).

 

[Tup3x]

Did found some use for driver fake frames: games that have 60 fps limit. Worked quite well although clearly not on par with proper implementation.

What a week... Never before have I worked 24h straight without sleep.

 

[Ranulf]

I got a good laugh this weekend with the Dune beta. On startup it cries about not having the latest nvidia driver, 576.02. That older drivers causes some issue. Game ran fine on drivers from last August anyway.

 

[leoneazzurro]

it seems there are issues with power management of RTX5090 mobile - the GPU seems unable to reach max power with some games and thus the performance are barely distinguishable from the 4090 mobile.

This was confirmed by XMG as well:

https://www.reddit.com/r/XMG_gg/comments/1klrui3/jarrods_tech_is_this_a_joke_5090_vs_4090_laptop

It is unclear at the moment if the issues affect the whole series 5 line or the 5090 only.
Possibly future driver updates will fix the issue but certainly the mobile Blackwell series seems more black than well at the moment.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Ah, the dumpster fire continues unabated...

 

[gdansk]

On the plus side this time it isn't literally a fire. No 12vhpwr and it is using less power than it could.

 

[Heartbreaker]

it seems there are issues with power management of RTX5090 mobile - the GPU seems unable to reach max power with some games and thus the performance are barely distinguishable from the 4090 mobile.

Since this is really the 5080 chip vs 4080 chip this is kind of expected since the desktop 5080 was barely distinguishable over the 4080...

The only one that significantly improved this generation was the real desktop 5090. Small difference on the lower end chips are going to be even harder to find on mobile.

 

[leoneazzurro]

Since this is really the 5080 chip vs 4080 chip this is kind of expected since the desktop 5080 was barely distinguishable over the 4080...

The only one that significantly improved this generation was the real desktop 5090. Small difference on the lower end chips are going to be even harder to find on mobile.

Yes and no, the problem here is not the small difference by itself, but the fact that the RTX5090 mobile has a power limit of 175W but in many games it does not reach that consumption, thus lowering the performance compared to what it should be. On the opposite side, the 4090 hits consistently its power limit. The absurd situation is that in many cases there is a performance regression, while when the 5090 hits the power limit there is a performance advantage for the Blackwell chip. Basically, while it was expected that the average improvement between laptop 4090 and 5090 would have been small (in the 10% range) we have the current situation where the average difference is 0% because of the power management issues.

 

[gdansk]

It seems that the gap between 5090 and 5090 is offensively large. By that I mean the laptops are nowhere close to a 5090 but the product name is the exact same.

It doesn't even have the same amount of memory. I have disliked this naming from Nvidia all along but every generation since Pascal it has become worse.

 

[DAPUNISHER]

Even the Monopoly Man crowd know what's up LMAO! https://archive.is/SeOpl

 

[Golgatha]

Even the Monopoly Man crowd know what's up LMAO! https://archive.is/SeOpl

Wow, I knew the gaming segment was small, but 11% is crazy compared to just a couple of years ago.

 

[jpiniero]

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-dgx-spark-features-6144-cuda-cores-just-as-many-as-rtx-5070

The DGX Spark is just a 5070 (glued to a?) 20 core ARM CPU. Oh and less than half of the memory bandwidth, although it seems it will include 128 GB of LPDDR5X stock.

 

[jpiniero]

Jensen at Computex:

I got a fun drinking game for ya... drink every time he says "AI"

 

[Heartbreaker]

I got a fun drinking game for ya... drink every time he says "AI"

Murderer.

 

[MrTeal]

Think of all the time you have to game while you're recovering from your liver transplant.