Yeah it's too quiet for the rumours to be true.Shouldn't we be seeing all sorts of legit looking rumors/leaks at this point if cards are being released late summer or even early fall? I'm starting to think nothing launches until at least late fall.
Tom's article sounds like speculation to me rather than them actually having heard something from insiders.It's one week till computex. Either we get there some rumours going or Turing is coming later. Beside Toms no one had heard of a July launch yet, i don't think we'll see a hardlaunch in July. Maybe a architecture presentation with release date, which will follow in august.
Not really something that we know:
What Jensen told everyone was that they will be invited to the launch of new GeForce, but they should not expect it very soon. This confirms what we have been hearing from the industry for the past few months, NVIDIA has not given any details to their partners yet, so there is nothing to talk about yet.
All vague talk to divert from the topic.Jensen stated that the next GeForce products are still a ways a way.
I'm sure it'll be a while though. 12nm is basically a super refined process that originally started off as 20nm planar with finfets. Trying to build a 800mm2 die on a cutting edge process like 7nm (which iirc is denser than Intel's 10nm) will be likely too sky high right now price wise even for the Tesla line.No. The next Tesla will be though. It is possible that Turing is just 1170/1180 however, just to have something new out there for BTS/Christmas shopping season.
Nvidia's 12nm will likely be easily competitive with AMD's 7nm products.
Just like Maxwell 28nm had about the same performance/TDP ratio as Polaris 14nm. Lol.
I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed on pricing/performance.Looks like a late July / early August release. I'm sure it will be blower models first, followed by AIB custom cards 2 months later. I'm anticipating (guessing) that Pascal's FE prices ($699 and $449) will be the across-the-board MSRP prices, but I also think we might see a $50 price hike in the GTX 1170/1070 model at least until AMD can finally provide some sort of competition.
My best guesses.
$699 GTX 1180/2080 for 25-30% faster performance than GTX 1080 TI
$499 GTX 1170/2070 for 5-10% faster performance than GTX 1080 TI
$349 GTX 1160/2060 TI for GTX 1080 performance
$249 GTX 1160/2060 for GTX 1070 performance
If Nvidia rolls out the GT106 chip before AMD has any new cards on the market, Nvidia will have a ~215 mm2 chip as fast as AMD's 512 mm2 and using nearly 1/3 the power. Ouch.
You're probably right, but man. Fing miners.I think a lot of people are going to be disappointed on pricing/performance.
NVidia, usually has almost equal price/performance to the old cards when they first come out, because the old Cards have dropped significantly in price since introduced, so the new cards are better Price/Performance than the old cards introductory pricing, but not so much compared to current discounted pricing.
But now, old card prices haven't dropped since introduction at all. So I expect across the boards generation pricing will go up this release, so NVidia can capture more revenue/profit at each price point.
I think most of the gains this gen are going to be async (what we already see with Titan V) and memory bandwidth (20GBps GDDR6 is potentially >80% more memory bandwidth than G5X).Keep in mind if this is really a 12 nm product, the die size isn't going to be much smaller than GP102.
I still think it's at least $799 for the faster and $549-$599 for the slower. This FE pricing.
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