nvidia Adaptive Vsync is pure marketing Bull !

[headhumper]

AMD's adaptive Vsync works way better.

Really I rather just use the old style Vsync I don't know why AMD and nvidia are trying to reinvent the wheel LOL.

 

[toyota]

Yes you can just turn on regular Vsync it's worked for years until nvidia spewed out this propaganda with they adaptive Vsync.

everyone but YOU seems to understand exactly what the point of it is but keep making yourself look silly.

 

[headhumper]

everyone but YOU seems to understand exactly what the point of it is but keep making yourself look silly.

So let me get this what you are saying. Adaptive Vsync was not mean to cure screen tearing ? Whats the point if it only works half way if it still tears it's still garbage IMO. I did not pay for a good GPU to have ugly graphics and headache inducing anomalies like screen tearing. hech this is something I would exspect from Intel GPUs but not nvdia or amd. You can try and sugar coat it however which way you like but the fact remains Adaptive Vsync sucks and it does not work.

 

[Ferzerp]

Please attempt to understand the underlying technologies.

The only way to have 0 tearing is, by definition, enforced v-sync 100% of the time. That solution already exists.

It really isn't our fault that you don't grasp what you're talking about. No one is sugar coating anything.

 

[Dankk]

So let me get this what you are saying. Adaptive Vsync was not mean to cure screen tearing ? Whats the point if it only works half way if it still tears it's still garbage IMO.

Adaptive Vysnc reduces tearing only when your framerate exceeds your refresh rate. If your framerate is below your refresh rate, then there will still be tearing. That's how it's designed.

If you don't like it, then use regular Vsync instead. Is something keeping you from using regular Vsync?

 

[Anteaus]

Why are so many people so emotionally invested in such tedious things these days? It seems like half the members of this forum has gone emo and feels the need to cut themselves everytime a developer does something they aren't completely in favor of.

Headhumper, it's ok. You don't like Adative V-sync. Just don't use it. Have a cookie and take a deep breath. You're acting like it's some sort of conspiracy of Nvidia's to deprive you of your livelyhood. You're not going to convince us that Adaptive V-sync is some sort of marketing BS just because it doesn't benefit you.

It does work, you just aren't in a position to require it. Computers aren't just for games. There are lots of ways 3D desktops are used in businesses now. You are very naive in assuming that V-Sync is only there to make your games better.

 

[SirPauly]

Adaptive Vsync was not mean to cure screen tearing ?

Adaptive V-sync was not meant to cure screen tearing below the refresh rate!

 

[headhumper]

Adaptive Vysnc reduces tearing only when your framerate exceeds your refresh rate. If your framerate is below your refresh rate, then there will still be tearing. That's how it's designed.

If you don't like it, then use regular Vsync instead. Is something keeping you from using regular Vsync?

Ya I understand what you are saying. IMO I would rather lock the frame rate to my refreshrate to maintain an ultra smooth frame rate with no spikes as above my monitors refresh rate is useless anyways as I am not able to use those extra frames to my advantage. Also as a bonus with traditional Vsync I don't get tearing when the framerate is below the refresh rate which is why I call BS on nvidias adaptive Vsync IMO.

 

[Dankk]

Also as a bonus with traditional Vsync I don't get tearing when the framerate is below the refresh rate which is why I call BS on nvidias adaptive Vsync IMO.

Nvidia's Adaptive Vsync isn't BS because it does exactly what it's advertised to do.

I don't know why, but it makes me smile to see just how heated you are over something so trivial. This is silly. You're silly. This whole thread is silly.

 

[headhumper]

Guess this case is closed as we have found that I proved that Adaptive Vsync does not work and you guy's have told me that it is not supposed to work at under 60fps so it's settled. But I still don't like it. Also what is the purpose then ?

 

[felang]

Most people like vsync because it keep the frame rate LOCKED to your monitors refreshrate therfore insuring smooth gameplay and IQ with no image tearing.

VSYNC can only lock the frame rate to the refresh rate if your PC is powerful enough to stay above the refresh rate. As others have already stated you don´t seem to understand how this is supposed to work.

Guess this case is closed as we have found that I proved that Adaptive Vsync does not work and you guy's have told me that it is not supposed to work at under 60fps so it's settled. But I still don't like it. Also what is the purpose then ?

VSYNC enabled and going under refresh rate does not ensure "smooth gameplay", you get massive stutter because the frame rate goes straight from 60 fps to 45 fps, then straight to 30 fps, etc.

With Adaptive VSYNC enabled VSYNC is disengaged when FPS < than refresh rate so that stutter caused when jumping from 60 to 45 to 30 fps is minimized, but obviously image tearing returns because VSYNC is effectively OFF .

If you prefer stuttering over tearing then stick to normal VSYNC, preferably with triple buffering enabled.

 

[headhumper]

VSYNC can only lock the frame rate to the refresh rate if your PC is powerful enough to stay above the refresh rate. As others have already stated you don´t seem to understand how this is supposed to work.

VSYNC enabled and going under refresh rate does not ensure "smooth gameplay", you get massive stutter because the frame rate goes straight from 60 fps to 45 fps, then straight to 30 fps, etc.

With Adaptive VSYNC enabled VSYNC is disengaged when FPS < than refresh rate so that stutter caused when jumping from 60 to 45 to 30 fps is minimized, but obviously image tearing returns because VSYNC is effectively OFF .

If you prefer stuttering over tearing then stick to normal VSYNC, preferably with triple buffering enabled.

No.

 

[toyota]

Guess this case is closed as we have found that I proved that Adaptive Vsync does not work and you guy's have told me that it is not supposed to work at under 60fps so it's settled. But I still don't like it. Also what is the purpose then ?

the only thing you proved is how ignorant you are on the subject and that you refuse to listen to the facts. adaptive vsync works just as it is intended to and you are the only one in this thread that does not get it.

 

[headhumper]

the only you proved is how ignorant you are on the subject and the you refuse to listen to listen to the facts.

Thanx for the opinion

 

[felang]

No.

YES

 

[ss284]

I think headhumper has a point that the marketing literature and some of the review sites seemed to infer that tearing was eliminated with adaptive vsync. At least I was under that impression...

 

[headhumper]

I think headhumper has a point that the marketing literature and some of the review sites seemed to infer that tearing was eliminated with adaptive vsync. At least I was under that impression...

Well just for the fact that it has the word Vsync in the title tells me that it must do the same thing as Vsync but apparently not.

 

[bononos]

AMD's adaptive Vsync works way better.

Are you talking about radeon pro? And why does it work better? There was a discussion over at H saying that Nvidia's solution works at a lower level (vs a 3rd party addon) and so is better.

 

[felang]

Well just for the fact that it has the word Vsync in the title tells me that it must do the same thing as Vsync but apparently not.

Dude you are just so dense. It works but you just don't understand how is all. If you still don't get it after all these people tried to explain it to you I don't know what else to tell you.

Buy a console or something.

 

[SirPauly]

I think headhumper has a point that the marketing literature and some of the review sites seemed to infer that tearing was eliminated with adaptive vsync. At least I was under that impression...

It does to some levels and can see how one may be confused. PR, at times, may be too aggressive with their wording.

 

[chimaxi83]

This guy reminds me of banned poster Gordon Freemen. Same posting style (know it all while being wrong, flaming posts, etc.), same 560SE as Gordon, same Phenom 955BE as Gordon, same 1680x1050 monitor as Gordon, same single stick of Corsair 4GB as Gordon, same Hyper 212+ as Gordon, same Antec case as Gordon, with a Canadian accent, and Gordon was Canadian. That YouTube video you posted of your rig was informative lol. Gordon you silly goose, is that you bro? Where you been?

Oh yeah, adaptive vsync works perfectly fine on my sons machine with his GTX680. Like everyone else has said, it basically works as advertised. Not really sure what you're talking about :/

 

[AnandThenMan]

Allow the market to decide instead of vocal gamers!

Then shut yur yapper and let it happen.

I personally don't like adapt-Vsync and don't use it, find it annoying. Oh sorry the market has to decide I can't say anything.

 

[chimaxi83]

Uh aren't the gamers the market anyway? Just put your let the market decide line in your sig and be done with it, since it's in 99% of your posts. Just trying to save you some time SirPauly!

 

[omeds]

Well just for the fact that it has the word Vsync in the title tells me that it must do the same thing as Vsync but apparently not.

Adaptive vsync prevents juddering/stuttering when fps drop below the refresh rate, by disabling vsync.
When fps are at or above the refresh rate, vsync is enabled again and its exaclty like normal vsync.

The whole idea is to make gameplay smooth when you have fluctuating fps.

 

[cmdrdredd]

When normal Vysnc is on it never tears.

And that's where you fail to understand how adaptive vsync works.

It's like this. When you are at or above 60fps the driver will turn on vsync. When it drops below 60fps it will turn vsync off because with vsync on in a traditional way without any buffering the framerate drops can only be numbers that divide evenly into 60. So instead of dropping to say 56fps it'll drop to 30, then 20, then 15... That's why it's not ideal at times.

So with adaptive vsync it attempts to keep the FPS drops from occuring by removing vsync and then turning it back on when things smooth out. It will also sync to 120fps if you have a 120hz monitor although many games don't quite ever reach 120fps consistently and you'll basically be running without vsync on.

So, since it turns vsync off when the fps is below your refresh rate you can get tearing. Who knew turning vsync off would cause some amount of screen tearing? It's not made to eliminate tearing, it's made to eliminate the FPS drop that sometimes occurs with normal vsync. Imnagine you're playing and in a firefight you see 20fps. The difference in framerate will be jarring.