NVIDIA 7900GTX Details

[RobertR1]

People had way too high of hopes for this card. A 650mhz 24pipe 7800GTX will do quite well.

 

[crazydingo]

Rollo in damage control mode, although it is still too early for that isnt it ?

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: RobertR1
People had way too high of hopes for this card. A 650mhz 24pipe 7800GTX will do quite well.

At $500 and being faster than the XTX in most non-shader intensive games should make it quite competitive against ATi's offerings. The problem of course is that according to the info. we have right now, it won't offer anything new - just the same old G70 tech. Expect Rollo and other shills to start spinning this as something positive: "ok so we bs'd ya, it wasn't 32 pipes after all but imagine teh SLI, teh SLI!!! $1000 and you will have teh fastest SLI in teh planet, it is much better than teh dongles!!"

 

[Cooler]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: RobertR1
People had way too high of hopes for this card. A 650mhz 24pipe 7800GTX will do quite well.

At $500 and being faster than the XTX in most non-shader intensive games should make it quite competitive against ATi's offerings. The problem of course is that according to the info. we have right now, it won't offer anything new - just the same old G70 tech. Expect Rollo and other shills to start spinning this as something positive: "ok so we bs'd ya, it wasn't 32 pipes after all but imagine teh SLI, teh SLI!!! $1000 and you will have teh fastest SLI in teh planet, it is much better than teh dongles!!"

No they want to get QUAD SLI that will be launched with this new card.

 

[aznrice54]

While the specs are much more disappointing than earlier rumors suggested, I'm still gonna hold out before I make a final judgement of it. If it can run roughly on par or slightly above the X1900 series and NV does some aggressive pricing, it may not turn out to be quite that bad.

 

[RobertR1]

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: RobertR1
People had way too high of hopes for this card. A 650mhz 24pipe 7800GTX will do quite well.

At $500 and being faster than the XTX in most non-shader intensive games should make it quite competitive against ATi's offerings. The problem of course is that according to the info. we have right now, it won't offer anything new - just the same old G70 tech. Expect Rollo and other shills to start spinning this as something positive: "ok so we bs'd ya, it wasn't 32 pipes after all but imagine teh SLI, teh SLI!!! $1000 and you will have teh fastest SLI in teh planet, it is much better than teh dongles!!"

You mean in the same manner they started the "but 2 7800GT's in Sli > x1900xtx. OMG! SLI FTW!" ???

 

[5150Joker]

Originally posted by: RobertR1

Originally posted by: 5150Joker

Originally posted by: RobertR1
People had way too high of hopes for this card. A 650mhz 24pipe 7800GTX will do quite well.

At $500 and being faster than the XTX in most non-shader intensive games should make it quite competitive against ATi's offerings. The problem of course is that according to the info. we have right now, it won't offer anything new - just the same old G70 tech. Expect Rollo and other shills to start spinning this as something positive: "ok so we bs'd ya, it wasn't 32 pipes after all but imagine teh SLI, teh SLI!!! $1000 and you will have teh fastest SLI in teh planet, it is much better than teh dongles!!"

You mean in the same manner they started the "but 2 7800GT's in Sli > x1900xtx. OMG! SLI FTW!" ???

Heh exactly and like Cooler noted, expect them to boast about the absurd: But but we have teh QUAD GPU that does QUAD DAMAGE!!

 

[Regs]

Well the rule of thumb has always been wait for the games and not the hardware.

However for hardware enthusiasts, that rule does not apply and they pay dearly for it. So what can be any more expensive than quad SLI?

 

[RussianSensation]

On the whole since 7800GTX 512 was largely overpriced and unavailable we have:

7800GT = 20x400 = 8000 fill-rate
7800GTX = 24x430 = 10320
7900GTX = 24x655 = 15720

So almost 2x faster than 7800GT and 60% faster than 7800GTX. If the price is $549 on the street, it's a decent card imo. It's not that Nvidia didn't step up their game, but that ATI really stepped up their game with X1900 series. Either way, 19% gpu boost over previous 7800GTX 512mb will make it equal to X1900 in most games, faster in all OpenGL games, but most likely slower in FEAR. Bring on 48 pipe G80

 

[Frostwake]

Lol why is everyone dissapointed? Maybe now you will realize that Ati WAS very unlucky with their x1800 launch... if it had launched at the proper time the GTX would have been dissapointing as well, but now that Ati managed to get the product on time nvidia doesnt seem threatening anymore do they? No surprise for me

 

[Cooler]

Originally posted by: Regs
Well the rule of thumb has always been wait for the games and not the hardware.

However for hardware enthusiasts, that rule does not apply and they pay dearly for it. So what can be any more expensive than quad SLI?

Quad Fire?

 

[LittleNemoNES]

he he

How about some other names instead of crossfire how about "traffix jamz"

lol, sorry -- I know, cheesy.

 

[Polish3d]

Originally posted by: Frostwake
Lol why is everyone dissapointed? Maybe now you will realize that Ati WAS very unlucky with their x1800 launch... if it had launched at the proper time the GTX would have been dissapointing as well, but now that Ati managed to get the product on time nvidia doesnt seem threatening anymore do they? No surprise for me

Indeed. IMO the GTX does kind of suck as a video card...obviously I'm not biased as I own one.

I paid 600 dollars for mine when it first came out...yet it sh9ts out on 4xAA and really isn't that fast overall.

The newer drives seem to help more, I get a steady 70fps in BF2 w/ 4xaa and SSAA, but nonetheless it should have had faster memory, and a faster core clock for the price. Who gives a ****** about single slot at the expense of performance for a 600 top end card

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: Regs
Well the rule of thumb has always been wait for the games and not the hardware.

However for hardware enthusiasts, that rule does not apply and they pay dearly for it. So what can be any more expensive than quad SLI?

Oblivion at the end of March hopefully, one of the first next-gen games.
I hope that websites do a re-review after it's been released to see how the newest cards stack up.
And then again when Unreal Engine 3 games start coming in full force.

 

[jim1976]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
On the whole since 7800GTX 512 was largely overpriced and unavailable we have:

7800GT = 20x400 = 8000 fill-rate
7800GTX = 24x430 = 10320
7900GTX = 24x655 = 15720

So almost 2x faster than 7800GT and 60% faster than 7800GTX. If the price is $549 on the street, it's a decent card imo. It's not that Nvidia didn't step up their game, but that ATI really stepped up their game with X1900 series. Either way, 19% gpu boost over previous 7800GTX 512mb will make it equal to X1900 in most games, faster in all OpenGL games, but most likely slower in FEAR. Bring on 48 pipe G80

M8 these are theoretical numbers... As GFLOPs are likewise..
G7x has 10GTexels theoretical max fillrate but it falls at around 1.4GTexels with PS2.0..
I'm not saying that the fillrate doesn't play important role but by itself means nothing it's a matter of marchitecture as a whole, and how effective it is...

 

[SpeedZealot369]

ati is coming back baby

 

[RussianSensation]

Originally posted by: jim1976

M8 these are theoretical numbers... As GFLOPs are likewise..
G7x has 10GTexels theoretical max fillrate but it falls at around 1.4GTexels with PS2.0..
I'm not saying that the fillrate doesn't play important role but by itself means nothing it's a matter of marchitecture as a whole, and how effective it is...

You are right. It's not going to scale linearly. Still, 7800GTX 512mb has about 65% higher fillrate and 70% higher memory than 7800GT and it gets about 50% performance boost in heavy settings over 7800GT. Review For a refresh product, 7900GTX is a good product. It's because X1900XT increased shader performance 3x that it doesn't seem as impressive any longer.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: Frackal
Wow, boring... hmm basically my GPU with another 150mhz and some faster mem .. I bought this bad boy a year ago in June and this is all that we've arrived at by march?

That's exactly what it is.. I predict hot mofo! No need to basj on ATI's 60db cards anymore nV will match.

 

[jim1976]

Originally posted by: RussianSensation
For a refresh product, 7900GTX is a good product. It's because X1900XT increased shader performance 3x that it doesn't seem as impressive any longer.

100% agreed Of course 7900GTX is a nice product.. I was just stating the "obvious" which you seem to understand w/o my help..

I had a 7800GTX256 and I was waiting with patience for the r580 (and not 520) to come out. I knew it's specs I knew it would have 48ALUs(don't ask me how) and I knew what I wanted from my next gpu. IQ and MSAA+HDR were the teasers for me also..
But anyone who says 7900GTX isn't a very good gpu is narrow minded to say the least..

 

[TraumaRN]

If it's priced well (i.e400-500 bucks) and OCs well, then I'll sell my 7800GT since I could probably get at least 175-200 for it and then make up the difference easily. Personally I think there is more here then NVidia is letting onto, they probably tweaked with the core a little bit, making things more effiecient or whatnot, and perhaps that rumor about HQAF returning is true as well. Either way I'll wait and see what each side has to offer first before I buy, whichever gives me the best performance for my buck I'll buy.

 

[nib95]

hehe, this is kinda good and bad news for me. Good because my X1900 XTX is here with me now (delivered already), bad because their might not be anything else much better in the coming month/months.
Guess i wont have to sell the XTX for the 7900 GTX after all.

Bit dissapointing from Nvidia. 24pipes only, against ATI's massive 42 pixel shaders (fair enough not pipelines) but still...

 

[ItSells]

quicky froogles the cheapest x1900 xt with credit card in hand !!!!!!!!

 

[Dethfrumbelo]

I think 32 pipes would have led to poor yields and extremely high prices, which would leave them with basically no viable competition for the X1900XT.

Unfortunately, they're also behind in features and shader power, so this card really has to make up for that with raw power in OpenGL and less shader-heavy games.

 

[Pete]

These specs are curious. They work out to 625MHz for the pixel shaders and either 725MHz or 580MHz for the vertex shaders, depending on whether there are 8 or 10. 655MHz doesn't match up with either the fillrate or vertex rate.

I have to tell ya, I'm almost still expecting 32 pipes given all the talk. But then we should've heard about 28 pipe GTs, not 24. And 24 pipes for the top end kinda matches with 12 pipes for the 7600.

 

[crazydingo]

Originally posted by: Pete
I have to tell ya, I'm almost still expecting 32 pipes given all the talk. But then we should've heard about 28 pipe GTs, not 24. And 24 pipes for the top end kinda matches with 12 pipes for the 7600.

True, even the fillrate ratios are similar. (6800U vs 6600GT)