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jjsole......You're wasting your breath trying to talk sense into these guys. They are obviously so pro-Israel that four million dead Palestinian bodies would mean nothing to them, not terrorism, not murder, not anything. None of them can see the truth....that pratctically every nation on earth, save the US, hates Israel, not because they are Jews, but for what they do.
 
Originally posted by: Bluefront
jjsole......You're wasting your breath trying to talk sense into these guys. They are obviously so pro-Israel that four million dead Palestinian bodies would mean nothing to them, not terrorism, not murder, not anything. None of them can see the truth....that pratctically every nation on earth, save the US, hates Israel, not because they are Jews, but for what they do.
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yeah, gotta hate that israel dares to exist
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Israel was hated before it even had the chance to do anything wrong. I dont agree with all of its policies; I think the settlements are dumb (especially the unauthorized ones that keep popping up further and further beyond where they should, which in turn streches the israeli defenses) and are providing an excuse for people who can't complain about the corruption in their own "government" to kill jews, and I think a big fvckin wall would be nice except for the fact that a significant of israel's economy is based on arabs, but, I assure you, many of these nations that hate israel will continue to do so as long as maps with israel are printed.
 
You know Mr FormatC, if Israel and it's supporters were really "smart", they would be cultivating friends in the world, rather than making enemies.
 
Originally posted by: Bluefront
You know Mr FormatC, if Israel and it's supporters were really "smart", they would be cultivating friends in the world, rather than making enemies.
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If they had tried "cultivating friends" for the past 53 years instead of actively defending themselves, there would not be a Jew left alive in the Middle East.
 
Originally posted by: Bluefront
You know Mr FormatC, if Israel and it's supporters were really "smart", they would be cultivating friends in the world, rather than making enemies.
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You can't make friends with stupid people.

 
FormatC...if everyone around you has a gun, and they outnumber you greatly, don't you think it's in your own best intrest not to aggravate the situation at every opportunity?
 
Originally posted by: Bluefront
FormatC...if everyone around you has a gun, and they outnumber you greatly, don't you think it's in your own best intrest not to aggravate the situation at every opportunity?
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An excellent response if your goal is to get yourself annihilated. You know why the Swiss were not attacked in World War Two? It was not because they played both sides, which they did indeed do. It was because they had a well-trained and well-equipped standing army ready to defend their country whatever the cost and because they had a massive reserve consisting of all able-bodied men in the country that was ready to fight at a moment's notice. If you have anything less than that while surrounded, outnumbered, and outgunned by enemies committed to your destruction, you will not survive long.
 
I don't believe in "hate crimes," personally. If my African-American friend were murdered because of her color, and it was determined to be a hate crime, why should her murderer get a different sentence than anyone else, of ANY COLOR who was murdered? It just doesn't make sense.

Murder is murder. All murder is 'hate crime.' There's no reason for 'Hate Crime Legislation.'
 
jjsole......further proof that I/you are wasting our breath. Let's see, there is no end to wars....you just keep fighting and killing forever. Friends are useless, they just lessen the people you have to kill. I stold your land and that's the end of the discussion.
 
Originally posted by: Bluefront
jjsole......further proof that I/you are wasting our breath. Let's see, there is no end to wars....you just keep fighting and killing forever. Friends are useless, they just lessen the people you have to kill. I stold your land and that's the end of the discussion.
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Conciliation and appeasement between ideologically opposed enemies has never produced peace.
Never. Deterrence through strength has been the only reliable method throughout history of avoiding wars. It may not be pleasant -- much of human nature is not -- but that is the truth.
 
Not only do I think Sharon is a terrorist, his own soldiers think so too.
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Please dont bring up those wussies who are too scared to fight again. yeah, I know they're all decorated combat veterans. People with families who are scared sh|tless of doing their duty now. And yes, I do know more than you about this.
 
Deterrence through strength has been the only reliable method throughout history of avoiding wars.

Obviously not since the wars keep on coming.
 
Originally posted by: Bluefront
You know Mr FormatC, if Israel and it's supporters were really "smart", they would be cultivating friends in the world, rather than making enemies.
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That's a bit hard when you have so many sworn enemies for the single reason of existing.

 
Originally posted by: EngineNr9
Deterrence through strength has been the only reliable method throughout history of avoiding wars.
Obviously not since the wars keep on coming.
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I think you need to read some history. How did the World Wars start? Why did the USA and the USSR never go to war? Why was Switzerland never attacked? Why has Israel not been attacked since 1973? Read. Think.
 
Originally posted by: EngineNr9
Deterrence through strength has been the only reliable method throughout history of avoiding wars.

Obviously not since the wars keep on coming.
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You also have to be consistent about it, which Israel hasn't been- negotiating with terrorists, unilateral withdrawals and what not.

 
Originally posted by: EngineNr9
War and threat of war still rages all around the world. Fighting will never bring peace to the planet.
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Your young, naive and idealistic mind may not understand this, but until all the world lives under representative governments with separation of church and state, liberal institutions and free market economies, the threat of war will always exist. Someday you will see this.
 
Originally posted by: Scipionix
Originally posted by: EngineNr9 War and threat of war still rages all around the world. Fighting will never bring peace to the planet.
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Your young, naive and idealistic mind may not understand this, but until all the world lives under representative governments with separation of church and state, liberal institutions and free market economies, the threat of war will always exist. Someday you will see this.
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My God this is so fvckin wrong. Please explain how this leads to peace.
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/EDIT...and why you can't have peace without this.
 
Peace through mindfulness. Knowing everything is the best way overlook the most important aspect of humanity. Sorry, but I've already seen that, and outgrew it.
 
Originally posted by: Pocatello
How long do you think Israel will last as a country if all the Jews drop all their weapons?
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How long do you think Israel can exist if they stop using their weapons as relentlessly as they do? Answer: alot longer.
 
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