Nude pics of rosie o'donnel!

[pulse8]

Don't believe everthing you hear, especially the part about civilians running towards soldiers! lol

You're very informed for someone who wasn't there.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Murphyrulez

Originally posted by: jjsole No, I don't think so. Just as reports were coming out about it, the labeled it immediately. The id/nationality of the person wasn't even released yet.

Ummmm... Your level of intellect is amazing. Who do you think shot the SOB dead? An El Al security officer. Who do you think were the first people to touch his body, search him for identification? El Al security. How soon do you suppose El Al security got on the phone to their superiors in Israel? Maybe ummmm... 1 minute? Just because CNN didn't know who the guy was for 4 hours doesn't mean Israel didn't. Think first, before spouting your anti-Semetic BS.

Lets toss "anti-sematism" around whenever someone's criticized Israel. Thats good propaganda.

Sharon is a fat militant slob, far more than any palestinian (both fatter and more militant), and his "lekud" party is a bunch of blood thirsty militant murderers as well. They, as well as arafat, should be dragged into the dumpster for the next garbage truck to haul away and left for the seagulls to peck where their deposited at the garbage dump site.

 

[Scipionix]

Originally posted by: jjsole
Sharon is a fat militant slob, far more than any palestinian (both fatter and more militant), and his "lekud" party is a bunch of blood thirsty militant murderers as well. They, as well as arafat, should be dragged into the dumpster for the next garbage truck to haul away and left for the seagulls to peck where their deposited at the garbage dump site.

Anti-Semitic? Naaaaah.

 

[ElFenix]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Lucky
so at what point does a "hate crime" (I dislike them as well, BTW) become terrorism?

There really is no definition per say that I am aware of. In modern times terrorism is generally defined as an act committed against civilian targets designed to inspire fear and terror in the populace with the hope of achieving some political or social end. Pehaps the reason the Israelis are calling the LAX incident terrorism is that there might well have been many more people killed and injured if not for the fast actions of the security personnel on the scene.

I agree. I think murder becomes terrorism when it's being done to make a political point. Also, terrorism is when murder is being commited in hope of terrorizing the population.[/quote]for a political point is assassination.

 

[Stark]

this is the same trigger-happy wrecklessness that Israel has been applying this past year+,

ya, that's the ticket, blame israel for the breakdown in the peace process.

Here's a nickel. Go buy yourself a clue.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Scipionix

Originally posted by: jjsole Sharon is a fat militant slob, far more than any palestinian (both fatter and more militant), and his "lekud" party is a bunch of blood thirsty militant murderers as well. They, as well as arafat, should be dragged into the dumpster for the next garbage truck to haul away and left for the seagulls to peck where their deposited at the garbage dump site.

Anti-Semitic? Naaaaah.

I love the jewish people as much as any other but I'm extremely anti-Sharon.


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[Scipionix]

Originally posted by: jjsole I love the jewish people as much as any other but I'm <STRONG>extremely</STRONG> anti-Sharon.

So why is it that you and your European and Arab ideological brethren fixate on Sharon? Please explain.

 

[ElFenix]

Why does white killing blacks=hate crime, but arab killing a jew=terrorism?

because everyone has to be special.

 

[somethingwitty]

Originally posted by: Scipionix

Originally posted by: jjsole
Sharon is a fat militant slob, far more than any palestinian (both fatter and more militant), and his "lekud" party is a bunch of blood thirsty militant murderers as well. They, as well as arafat, should be dragged into the dumpster for the next garbage truck to haul away and left for the seagulls to peck where their deposited at the garbage dump site.

Anti-Semitic? Naaaaah.

Although jjsole's posts in this thread are rather idiotic I do not think the above fits "anti-semitic" as applied to the idea of hating jews. He seems a lot more blindly anti-israeli than anti-jew, though of course I could be wrong. He is sprouting crap about sharon's looks and his policies, but (again, unless I'm misreading this) not about sharon as a jew, sharon-the-jew as a drinker of palestine blood, etc. and he is half right-he's got arafat going to the dumpster too.

anyways, regarding the original post...

the israeli government was indeed quick to label this a terrorist action-though I'm sure it was based on knowing the identity WELL before the american public did. Consider also that their thought process is different than ours...they feel that when a middle eastern man tries to kill jewish civilians it's a terrorist attack. we wont call something terrorism unless it's intended to make a more broad/noticable/(better word?) statement.

personally, I can see israel's viewpoint, but I think this one will go down as a hate crime. pretend this happened in a prominantly jewish neighboorhood on some random day-it would be a hate crime. now add in LAX-it becomes a very public hate crime. but ask if it was intended to send a message, to shut things down (which it did, but I doubt that was the goal), etc, and I think you're left with a deranged individual who decided that the best time to try and kill jews was july 4th. I wouldn't call this anything more unless proof of a terrorist connection develops.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Scipionix

Originally posted by: jjsole I love the jewish people as much as any other but I'm extremely anti-Sharon.

So why is it that you and your European and Arab ideological brethren fixate on Sharon? Please explain.

I don't know about what brethren your ranting about and that sounds like a pretty obnoxious statement, but Sharon is a militant prvck who knows only one way to handle situations, and thats to send in the tanks and count the cost later. Thats been his policy all the way back to the slaughter in Lebanon when he was defense minister. He spit on the palestinians when he led the march to the "Noble Temple" when he was running for office a couple years ago, and did it to appease his right wingers for the sake of votes. He purports to be against terrorism but has killed 3 1/2 times as many palestinians as vica-versa, and says it in the name of "terrorism" while he has no respect for the innocent palestinians that he is always increasingly inflaming with his strong-arm tactics over a defenseless population.

This is not a cycle of terrorism but a cycle of revenge ffrom both sides, and while the palestinians have vowed revenge for his actions, he has vowed revenge for theirs, while at the same time using his billion dollar military to attempt to pound them into submission and destroying the lives of innocent palestinians. Does suicide bombings justify any response? Suicide bombings are ugly and obscene but no less obscene than the destruction and deaths that he has caused. An innocent life is an innocent life, and destroying one with a tank is as obscene as another one destroyed by dynamite on someones chest - the end result is the dead bodies are in just as many pieces and just as many lives and families are destroyed.

He's a POS that should never be given the responsibility of representing a country and commanding a military because while he may be winning the battles, he's very short-sited as he is increasingly creating hostility for the rest of the world, and not just Arab nations. The US will kiss his ahole, but thats not going to cover all of the reprocutions of oppressing an entire population like that. To hell with him.

 

[Scipionix]

Originally posted by: jjsole I don't know about what brethren your ranting about and that sounds like a pretty obnoxious statement, but Sharon is a militant prvck who knows only one way to handle situations, and thats to send in the tanks and count the cost later. Thats been his policy all the way back to the slaughter in Lebanon when he was defense minister. He spit on the palestinians when he led the march to the "Noble Temple" when he was running for office a couple years ago, and did it to appease his right wingers for the sake of votes. He purports to be against terrorism but has killed 3 1/2 times as many palestinians as vica-versa, and says it in the name of "terrorism" while he has no respect for the innocent palestinians that he is always increasingly inflaming with his strong-arm tactics over a defenseless population.

This is not a cycle of terrorism but a cycle of revenge ffrom both sides, and while the palestinians have vowed revenge for his actions, he has vowed revenge for theirs, while at the same time using his billion dollar military to attempt to pound them into submission and destroying the lives of innocent palestinians. Does suicide bombings justify <STRONG>any</STRONG> response? Suicide bombings are ugly and obscene but no less obscene than the destruction and deaths that he has caused. An innocent life is an innocent life, and destroying one with a tank is as obscene as another one destroyed by dynamite on someones chest - the end result is the dead bodies are in just as many pieces and just as many lives and families are destroyed.

He's a POS that should never be given the responsibility of representing a country and commanding a military because while he may be winning the battles, he's very short-sited as he is increasingly creating hostility for the rest of the world, and not just Arab nations. The US will kiss his ahole, but thats not going to cover all of the reprocutions of oppressing an entire population like that. To hell with him.

Not one original or even valid point, and certainly not one that I have not addressed here before. Why do I even bother with some people.

 

[911paramedic]

Originally posted by: Lucky
so at what point does a "hate crime" (I dislike them as well, BTW) become terrorism?

off of a gov website:
What is a Hate Crime?
A hate crime is a crime in which the perpetrator's conduct is motivated, in whole or in part, by hatred, bias, or prejudice, based on the actual or percieved race, color, religion, national origin, gender, disability, or sexual orientation of another group or individual.

Terrorism Defined
Webster?s: the use of force or threats to demoralize, intimidate, and subjugate, especially such use as the political weapon or policy

 

[Format C:]

I haven't got a silly bone in my body.

True. They were crowded out by the stupid bones long long ago.

 

[PsychoAndy]

Originally posted by: Scipionix

Originally posted by: jjsole I don't know about what brethren your ranting about and that sounds like a pretty obnoxious statement, but Sharon is a militant prvck who knows only one way to handle situations, and thats to send in the tanks and count the cost later. Thats been his policy all the way back to the slaughter in Lebanon when he was defense minister. He spit on the palestinians when he led the march to the "Noble Temple" when he was running for office a couple years ago, and did it to appease his right wingers for the sake of votes. He purports to be against terrorism but has killed 3 1/2 times as many palestinians as vica-versa, and says it in the name of "terrorism" while he has no respect for the innocent palestinians that he is always increasingly inflaming with his strong-arm tactics over a defenseless population.

This is not a cycle of terrorism but a cycle of revenge ffrom both sides, and while the palestinians have vowed revenge for his actions, he has vowed revenge for theirs, while at the same time using his billion dollar military to attempt to pound them into submission and destroying the lives of innocent palestinians. Does suicide bombings justify <STRONG>any</STRONG> response? Suicide bombings are ugly and obscene but no less obscene than the destruction and deaths that he has caused. An innocent life is an innocent life, and destroying one with a tank is as obscene as another one destroyed by dynamite on someones chest - the end result is the dead bodies are in just as many pieces and just as many lives and families are destroyed.

He's a POS that should never be given the responsibility of representing a country and commanding a military because while he may be winning the battles, he's very short-sited as he is increasingly creating hostility for the rest of the world, and not just Arab nations. The US will kiss his ahole, but thats not going to cover all of the reprocutions of oppressing an entire population like that. To hell with him.

Not one original or even valid point, and certainly not one that I have not addressed here before. Why do I even bother with some people.

Yeah, all of us reading this thread are knowledgeable to all of your arguments. Don't flatter yourself. We have a nice, unopinionated answer by 911 Paramedic answering the question, so why don't we all sit down and eat some pie?

 

[Scipionix]

Originally posted by: PsychoAndy Yeah, all of us reading this thread are knowledgeable to all of your arguments. Don't flatter yourself. We have a nice, unopinionated answer by 911 Paramedic answering the question, so why don't we all sit down and eat some pie?

Sure, but prove me wrong.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Scipionix

Originally posted by: jjsole I don't know about what brethren your ranting about and that sounds like a pretty obnoxious statement, but Sharon is a militant prvck who knows only one way to handle situations, and thats to send in the tanks and count the cost later. Thats been his policy all the way back to the slaughter in Lebanon when he was defense minister. He spit on the palestinians when he led the march to the "Noble Temple" when he was running for office a couple years ago, and did it to appease his right wingers for the sake of votes. He purports to be against terrorism but has killed 3 1/2 times as many palestinians as vica-versa, and says it in the name of "terrorism" while he has no respect for the innocent palestinians that he is always increasingly inflaming with his strong-arm tactics over a defenseless population. This is not a cycle of terrorism but a cycle of revenge ffrom both sides, and while the palestinians have vowed revenge for his actions, he has vowed revenge for theirs, while at the same time using his billion dollar military to attempt to pound them into submission and destroying the lives of innocent palestinians. Does suicide bombings justify any response? Suicide bombings are ugly and obscene but no less obscene than the destruction and deaths that he has caused. An innocent life is an innocent life, and destroying one with a tank is as obscene as another one destroyed by dynamite on someones chest - the end result is the dead bodies are in just as many pieces and just as many lives and families are destroyed. He's a POS that should never be given the responsibility of representing a country and commanding a military because while he may be winning the battles, he's very short-sited as he is increasingly creating hostility for the rest of the world, and not just Arab nations. The US will kiss his ahole, but thats not going to cover all of the reprocutions of oppressing an entire population like that. To hell with him.

Not one original or even valid point, and certainly not one that I have not addressed here before. Why do I even bother with some people.

There's nothing about this issue that's about ideology, its all about the issues and histories that have gone very deep between Sharon and Arafat for a long time, not to mention even before that. And the fact is that when Bush leaves office in 2004, Sharon is actually going to have to deal with the sh!thole of a situation that he's helped inspire...that is if he lasts in office that long.

 

[Scipionix]

Originally posted by: jjsole There's nothing about this issue that's about ideology, its all about the issues and histories that have gone very deep between Sharon and Arafat for a long time, not to mention even before that.

Such as? Sharon has been a soldier all his life. Arafat has been a terrorist all his life.

 

[kermalou]

Originally posted by: ThePresence

Originally posted by: Lucky
so at what point does a "hate crime" (I dislike them as well, BTW) become terrorism?

There really is no definition per say that I am aware of. In modern times terrorism is generally defined as an act committed against civilian targets designed to inspire fear and terror in the populace with the hope of achieving some political or social end. Pehaps the reason the Israelis are calling the LAX incident terrorism is that there might well have been many more people killed and injured if not for the fast actions of the security personnel on the scene.

I agree. I think murder becomes terrorism when it's being done to make a political point. Also, terrorism is when murder is being commited in hope of terrorizing the population.[/quote]

Also, terrorism is when murder is being commited in hope of terrorizing the population

that is wrong, they are not trying to terrorize the population, they are in actuality trying to protect the population

 

[Miramonti]

Terrorism Defined
Webster?s: the use of force or threats to demoralize, intimidate, and subjugate, especially such use as the political weapon or policy

And here's text from the Combatant Letter of the Israeli soldiers who refuse to serve under Sharon's policies:

We shall not continue to fight beyond the 1967 borders in order to dominate, expel, starve and humiliate an entire people.

Not only do I think Sharon is a terrorist, his own soldiers think so too.

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[Scipionix]

Originally posted by: jjsole
Not only do I think Sharon is a terrorist, his own soldiers think so too.

This is the worst repost ever. Please send more info.

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Scipionix

Originally posted by: jjsole Not only do I think Sharon is a terrorist, his own soldiers think so too.

This is the worst repost ever. Please send more info.

I don't know that that link is, this Combatant Letter is about the Israeli soldiers statements of why they won't serve. It was around long before that post which I'm not even interested in anything that mentions LaDouche-head. My post was highlighting the similar "terrorist" definition from Websters dictionary and the reason why the Israeli soldiers won't serve an inhumane policy. Your replies are impressing me less and less, and considering you didn't start much higher in my book than ground zero, its starting to wear. I think I'll do something more interesting than reading your rants, like take a nap.

 

[Scipionix]

Originally posted by: jjsole I don't know that that link is, this Combatant Letter is about the Israeli soldiers statements of why they won't serve. It was around long before that post which I'm not even interested in anything that mentions LaDouche-head. My post was highlighting the similar "terrorist" definition from Websters dictionary and the reason why the Israeli soldiers won't serve an inhumane policy. Your replies are impressing me less and less, and considering you didn't start much higher in my book than ground zero, its starting to wear. I think I'll do something more interesting than reading your rants, like take a nap.

You're welcome to do that, and maybe, just maybe, 0.008% of me will miss you.

 

[Format C:]

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: Scipionix

Originally posted by: jjsole Not only do I think Sharon is a terrorist, his own soldiers think so too.

This is the worst repost ever. Please send more info.

I don't know that that link is, this Combatant Letter is about the Israeli soldiers statements of why they won't serve. It was around long before that post which I'm not even interested in anything that mentions LaDouche-head. My post was highlighting the similar "terrorist" definition from Websters dictionary and the reason why the Israeli soldiers won't serve an inhumane policy. Your replies are impressing me less and less, and considering you didn't start much higher in my book than ground zero, its starting to wear. I think I'll do something more interesting than reading your rants, like take a nap.

Good idea Skippy. All them stupid bones GOT to be weary by now.

 

[Scipionix]

Originally posted by: Format C:
Good idea Skippy. All them stupid bones GOT to be weary by now.

I enjoy this far too much. I really do. Does that make me a bad person? Perhaps an intellectual terrorist?

 

[Miramonti]

Originally posted by: Format C:

Originally posted by: jjsole

Originally posted by: Scipionix

Originally posted by: jjsole Not only do I think Sharon is a terrorist, his own soldiers think so too.

This is the worst repost ever. Please send more info.

I don't know that that link is, this Combatant Letter is about the Israeli soldiers statements of why they won't serve. It was around long before that post which I'm not even interested in anything that mentions LaDouche-head. My post was highlighting the similar "terrorist" definition from Websters dictionary and the reason why the Israeli soldiers won't serve an inhumane policy. Your replies are impressing me less and less, and considering you didn't start much higher in my book than ground zero, its starting to wear. I think I'll do something more interesting than reading your rants, like take a nap.

Good idea Skippy. All them stupid bones GOT to be weary by now.

If you've got something to add to the issue moron, please do, otherwise fvck off. 2nd thought, just fvck off.