Nuatural hunger supressant?

[EliteRetard]

Ok since no one has said it yet, read the fat loss sticky.

Cut out all sugar (especially soda) and fast food and junk food. Sugar doesn't nourish you, it in fact contributes to hunger.

If you're exceedingly hungry, do what people in 3rd world countries do: drink more water. Be glad it isn't diseased. It will make you feel full. This works.

I find grapefruit is a good appetite suppressant, I eat 2 a day. Also, eat meals with a ton of green veggies like broccoli, take your time chewing them and only swallow when they are liquid. Because this takes over 10 minutes to eat a meal, the fiber fills you up, and even a small meal will satisfy you.

Also mint tricks your brain into thinking it's full, but you're not really putting anything in your body by brushing your teeth, so this is more psychological.

Get off all processed food and sugars, they are the devil and are keeping you addicted to chemical garbage. It is a psychological response to unnatural physical imbalance. Eat natural foods, organic preferably and lots of greens.

You may also need something to help brain chemicals like serotonin. 5-HTP can be a good way to help with anxiety or depression issues, but best to get it recommended by a shrink first.

Normally I never eat junk food, soda, or sugary stuff...only recently because I really need to eat and its whats available. Im trying to find a better solution though, on my own that would take a while (Im slow) and I figured it wouldnt hurt to ask...so I did. I always carry a half gallon steel canister with me (actually I have two, but only carry one on me). Only on a few occasions have I tried something besides water. I found that even juice though is just expensive and yeah basically sugar water...so I dont do that.

Ill try grapefruit, it might not be to hard to eat at work...but stopping to eat veggies for 10 minutes would be bad. I do try my best to eat natural foods, but organic is just way to expensive. And as far as anxiety or depression, well life sucks ass get over it. Im not affraid to die, but Im not gonna kill myself like a little wuss, Im a man I can take it.

 

[Alone]

Drink water at work. Don't waste time or money on organic foods.

Bring something prepared at home with you to work. Use discipline to not eat so fucking much (though I still think you're either exaggerating or flat out lying). How is this hard?

 

[EliteRetard]

I get hungry if i don't eat every few hours. granola isn't all that great for you. Most people over eat that stuff. What do you usually eat for breakfast?

I always figured granola was a good option, all natural, lots of whole grains and oats, got some sliced almonds in there, lots of fiber and not allot of sugar. I dont really eat "breakfast" I get up around 11 or so and just eat whatever Ive got. Usually chicken is the meat Ive got, its cheap and lean enough. Beef when its on sale and 10% fat or less. I try to stick with low fat cheese and all natural whole wheat bread (you know how hard it was to find a real natural 100% whole wheat bread...let alone for the price I can afford?!) Ill get different kinds of beans...I do like raw carrots...oh and I found an awesome organic spaghetti noodle for cheap that actually turns into a noodle and not paste. I do get fruits like banannas and pears and certain apples sometimes plums or those peach/nectarine things. Yeah just whatever I got.

 

[EliteRetard]

Protein generally tends to make people feel full/satiated, and snacks/meals lacking protein are often the ones that leave people still feeling hungry after eating.

Completely toss out the licorice. There's really nothing to be gained from eating it--it won't affect your appetite, the sugar spikes your blood glucose causing an eventual crash, and it's WAY too easy to just eat and eat and eat. Also avoid the doublestacks; if you're going to get anything from Wendy's, get grilled chicken without mayonnaise or any of the fatty sauces. Those burritos COULD be good if they're lean meat/chicken and beans without huge gobs of quacamole, cheese, and sour cream thrown in. As an aside, beans are a great food for helping you feel full. And unless you're trying to actively gain weight, dump the granola.

Also, when trying to eat healthier and/or lose weight, you're generally not supposed to eat while doing something else (e.g., watching TV, using the computer). You're also supposed to eat slowly, as it takes some time for your stomach to essentially tell your brain that it's full.

Caffeine is a natural appetite suppressant I believe, but you don't want to drink too much of it and start suffering from caffeine intoxication. Water, as others have mentioned, is also a great way to keep your mouth occupied between meals--it's possible that one of the reasons you're always so hungry is that you don't get enough water throughout the day. Sounds like you include it, though, so keep that up.

You can include moderate amounts of fruits throughout the day as well, and pretty much any amount of vegetables that you'd like (for me, carrots are generally the best at curbing hunger). Dab on a LITTLE peanut butter to add protein and increase the "substantialness" of the snack.

Beyond that, if you're used to eating huge amounts of food, it'll take time for your body to adjust to getting less food. So long as you're eating HEALTHY snacks/small meals every 3-ish hours, your appetite should generally be small or nil. Unless you go completely without food for weeks at a time, you're generally not in danger of starving to death.

However, if you get light-headed after not eating for only 3-4 hours, you should get checked out by a doctor. Could be something like hypoglycemia.

Yeah, protein is good...but expensive and hard to put in your pocket. I havnt found a good portable meat thats cheap and healthy. I tried some lunchmeats but something they put in them makes me sick. And the licorice was a bad idea...its always been one of the only candys I liked (just the black) and found it on sale for dirt cheap so I thought Id grab some and just have a tad bit here and there. I didnt have the willpower to stop eating it. Im usually good enough to not buy it in the first place though, so at most its a once a month thing.

Im trying to cut out wendeys alltogether, but if I do go Ill look at the chicken. I am price sensative though, and its all junk food to me...so if it costs twice as much its not worth it. Still crap food. And yeah those burritos were chicken and bean with a little cheese. No veggies in them this time though (didnt have any on hand). Another vote against granola...interesting.

Itd be nice if I could take the time to just sit and eat, but my work is not allowing that. I avvoid caffiene as much as possible, it gives me migrains (same with fake sugars MSG and some other stuff). I havnt found a good cheap penut butter, they all have hydrogenated oils and junk in them or the natural ones are stupid expensive and a pain in the ass (having to stir them) and I never thought it was a healthy food (why not just eat nuts without the oil and sugar?).

 

[EliteRetard]

This sounds too ridiculous to be a real post, but just in case it is:

Start by seeing a doctor. If your hunger levels are as ridiculous as you make them sound, you might have something actually wrong with you. Go get it checked out by a professional. If you don't have a medical condition causing these hunger issues, the next step is to read the fat loss sticky fat loss sticky.

The junk food you are eating is likely screwing up your hunger and energy levels. You need to stop eating the highly processed "food products" and focus your diet on whole/natural/unprocessed foods. There are different ways to accomplish this, with the most practical being the approach recommended in Michael Pollan's "In Defense of Food". The book is well worth a read and the advice consists of a bunch of rules of thumb that are easy to follow: avoid food that comes in a box/package/can, avoid foods with more than 3-4 ingredients (real bread: ok, wonder bread: not ok), avoid anything your grandparents wouldn't recognize as food (yogurt: ok, go-gurt: not ok), and so on.

Thats how I was doing things untill recently...but I might check out the book just for the heck of it.

 

[Alone]

Tuna is cheap and healthy, so long as you don't eat it in excess.

I'm weird and I mix a can with some mustard, since mayonnaise is shit and the low fat stuff tastes horrible.

 

[EliteRetard]

There is a solution here. You can use every trick in the book to elicit satiation signals - lots of leafy greens, fibrous veggies, fruits, some nuts and seeds, etc. You can eat things like celery, cucumbers, and carrots literally ALL day and you won't be taking in many calories. They also contain a TON of fiber and will trigger your satiation response better. For breakfast once, you should eat three eggs, one cup of oatmeal, a banana, and some almonds. Although it's a fairly light meal calorie-wise (especially to what you're pounding back), it is really filling. The fat and protein from the eggs and almonds, the fiber in the oatmeal and banana - they make a huge difference compared to licorice and granola. Granola is extremely calorie dense and is very easy to eat while licorice is pure sugar and doesn't elicit much of a satiation response. Everything you're eating has insane amounts of sugar, near to no fiber, and not enough protein and healthy fats.

I occasionally get eggs...maybe I should get them more often (I relly dont like them but Ill deal with it if I should) And another mark against granola, though you reccomend oatmeal. Interesting...is that not what granola is, oatmeal with nuts and such in it? As far as I know the granola has lots of fiber and little sugar.

 

[Alone]

What kind of granola bar?

 

[EliteRetard]

I agree, the troll is strong with this one. There is no way this guy could be serious.

No black guy avatar, and more than one post...good chance I am serious.

 

[Whisper]

I occasionally get eggs...maybe I should get them more often (I relly dont like them but Ill deal with it if I should) And another mark against granola, though you reccomend oatmeal. Interesting...is that not what granola is, oatmeal with nuts and such in it? As far as I know the granola has lots of fiber and little sugar.

Granola generally tends to have a LOT of calories and fat, even the "all natural" varieties, which is great for its original purpose--quick, portable energy when you're out hiking. Problem is, it has far too many calories to eat regularly if you're not hiking a mountain everyday (unless you're actively trying to gain weight).

Just go with plain almonds--great source of protein and healthy fats, clean, portable, and can be eaten discreetly. However, keep in mind that it's VERY easy to eat too many of them. Stop after a half-dozen or so, wait a few minutes, and then see if you're still hungry.

Sounds like part of the problem may be a low threshold for "hunger pain," and part might be that by the time you do eat, because you feel so famished, you overdo it. What time do you eat breakfast and when is lunch?

Also, the advice to see a doctor could indeed be good. Not sure why you're "done with" them, but if you're insatiably hungry to the point of passing out after only going 3-4 hours without eating, then something is wrong. Either, as mentioned, you just have a low hunger threshold, or something is wonky with your metabolism.

 

[EliteRetard]

High-fructose corn syrup and sugar are just as bad. They'll destroy your body worse than saturated fats, hydrogenated oils, etc. You eat a shit ton of it. Go to a farmer's market. Go to a butcher. Buy food. Don't eat anything other than that. You don't eat healthy. You might think you do, but you need to realize that you don't. Read the fat loss sticky about what foods to eat and then apply that if you're actually serious.

Like I said, I specifically avoid anything with high fructose corn syrup. I asked about the frostys and I didnt see it in the list of ingredients. Yeah its still crap...and thats why Im trying to find a better solution. Know how to locate a good butcher or whatnot in my area? I might try that if they do carry good food at good prices. Ill check out the fat loss sticky (I skipped it because I dont need to lose weight [well probably a little actually]...but if theres other good info in there Ill check it out)

 

[EliteRetard]

Come on, he says he eats 10 Wendy's double stacks (at 360 calories/burger) and mulitple frosties (410 for a medium chocolate). That equates to over 4,000 calories, as a snack, before lunch.

The more you think about what he's saying, the more you know he's just making it up.

Its not really a snack, I just cant wait all the way untill lunchtime (5.5 hrs from when I start). So I order food for the rest of the work day. Usually 10 burgers and some frostys get me through. Ill usually come home and eat more though. I do need at least 3000 calories in my work day to keep from getting shaky and weirded out.

 

[Whisper]

Like I said, I specifically avoid anything with high fructose corn syrup. I asked about the frostys and I didnt see it in the list of ingredients. Yeah its still crap...and thats why Im trying to find a better solution. Know how to locate a good butcher or whatnot in my area? I might try that if they do carry good food at good prices. Ill check out the fat loss sticky (I skipped it because I dont need to lose weight [well probably a little actually]...but if theres other good info in there Ill check it out)

I think part of the problem the people in this thread are having with respect to believing you is an underlying inconsistency...you regularly say that you try to eat healthy, avoid processed foods, etc., but you also tend to make many poor nutritional choices (e.g., thinking that doublestacks or frosty's are in any way healthy).

As for Wendy's, it's honestly one of the better fast food options out there, given the grilled chicken, salads (hold the dressing), and chili. There are definitely worse things you could eat. So long as it's not something you have more than once or twice a week, it should be fine. And surprisingly, McDonald's also has some pretty decent health-conscious alternatives...supposedly; I haven't been inside one myself in a few years, so am unable to verify.

 

[SociallyChallenged]

I occasionally get eggs...maybe I should get them more often (I relly dont like them but Ill deal with it if I should) And another mark against granola, though you reccomend oatmeal. Interesting...is that not what granola is, oatmeal with nuts and such in it? As far as I know the granola has lots of fiber and little sugar.

A cup of oatmeal has about 300 calories, has a good amount of fiber, and has a low GI. It acts significantly on satiation hormones. I actually have a LOT of trouble stuffing down a cup of oatmeal with everything else. A cup of granola has 400+ calories, 30g+ of sugar, and is very easy to eat. The granola, I will bet you, has less fiber than the oatmeal, much more sugar, and is much easier to eat. With the nuts and everything, it's also more calorie dense. My calculations were for one cup. You said you ate POUNDS of it. That's just amplifies the problem.

 

[EliteRetard]

What kind of granola bar?

Not a granola bar, just mixed oats and nuts in a bag. I usually toss in a bowl with water and eat it like cereal (I dont do milk because its homogenized).

 

[Alone]

Milk is good for you, man.

 

[Whisper]

Not a granola bar, just mixed oats and nuts in a bag. I usually toss in a bowl with water and eat it like cereal (I dont do milk because its homogenized).

What would be your reason for not drinking homogenized milk?

 

[HN]

(I dont do milk because its homogenized).

dude, if you can eat a SLEEVE you can drink homogenized milk. jeezus

 

[Murloc]

It's difficult to take you seriously.
I mean, what's wrong with homogenized milk? it's natural.
Anyway, you should ask a doctor, I don't know which, a nutritionist or a psycologist.

 

[wheresmybacon]

Not a granola bar, just mixed oats and nuts in a bag. I usually toss in a bowl with water and eat it like cereal (I dont do milk because its homogenized).

Like a sleeping bag? Made out of free-range Chilean goat's hide? With water from the purest glaciers of Antarctica?

You say you don't eat sugar, then you tell us about polishing off a pound of licorice. Then it's you eat only healthy natural foods but you go crush 10 double stacks and several frosties as a snack before lunch.

Uh huh...

 

[EliteRetard]

OK so lets try running this by real quick.

Im always hungry because of the way I grew up and the large ammount of food I eat I learned to eat healthy...or as healthy as I could with my budget. No sugar HFCS junk food ect.

I get a job (my first full time job) breaks are spaced to far apart and lunch is much to long for me to wait for. So I switch my first break and lunch trying to make things work. They get pissed arguments back and forth and it comes down to "or well fire you". So I take normal breaks and try to eat food in between as I go. They get pissed and again it eventually comes down to "or well fire you". Im trying to follow the rules but I have to eat Im starving. I even tried talking to the main boss to see if I could get him to make an exception for me to eat more regularly without the supervisor freaking out. No go. One of those days I just dont get enough and have to find food. Theres a wendeys just down the road across the street. I get 10 burgers. It works I can hide them in my pocket and eat them as I go. Rarely do they notice so its a method that kinda works. But its junk food and I know its bad for me. I never said it was healthy. This is what Im trying to solve. I figure if I can find something to help make me full I wont feel the need to eat as much so I wont have to try to hide it (as much) and also Im hoping to find an alternative to the fast food thats cheap helthy balanced and can hide in my pocket and eat easily. I know this is a tech site and not really the best place to go, but the responses have been interesting so far...so it was worth posting.

 

[Alone]

You can hide 10 burgers in your pockets, but you can't hide fruit, veggies, or nuts? Strips of grilled chicken? What kind of place do you work at, anyway?

I'm in the military, and I usually don't a meal between 6:30-12. But if I want a snack, I can still find time to eat one.

 

[EliteRetard]

Sounds like some people here dont eat very healthy either lol.

"Like a sleeping bag? Made out of free-range Chilean goat's hide? With water from the purest glaciers of Antarctica?"

If youve ever been to a bulk food isle youd know what I was talking about. Its a material called plastic. You go and pick the food you like and put them in these "bags" mark them with a number and then buy them. Get home take the stuff out of the bag and eat it. I get a certain mixture of ingredients and call it granola because, well, I dont know what else to call it and as far as I have ever know thats what granola is. I dont know what you guys buy for granola but mine has 10 grams or less sugar per cup (pretty sure). Its not a fancy boxed product though so I dont have an exact ingredient list or nutrition info. I usually buy 10lbs or so when I get it so itll last a week or two (unless I go on a granola binge or have nothing else to eat). Its cheap and as far as I have know it was healthy which seemed like a perfect combo. Ill reinvestigate next time I go, but Im pretty certain what I got was healthy (as long as oats and nuts and such are good for ya)

And no, I cant hide 10 burgers in my pockets, but one in each with its handy wrapper and conviently glued together "food" its real easy to just yank it out and stuf it in my face. Trying to stuff a whole fruit is hard and the ones you can do that with still require peeling and such which takes time and makes a mess. Thats what usually gets me caught. Things like nuts and cereal are hugely messy and trying to cram a handfull in your face drops crap everywhere. Plus the filth on my hands gets in the food and thats just not good.

The goal here was hopefully to find something that would reduce the need to eat to either eliminate the problem or greatly reduce it and also see if there were some alternatives. I honestly didnt think about pre-cooked hunks of chicken (which I could wrap). And like the name implies, I really am retarded (which also aparently means I am worth 25% less than everyone else and dont have the same rights...but whatever) and not affraid to admit it. But Im elite, your not

I did actually get something out of this so its cool. Kinda like going up to a mime and asking him a question. You cant really expect an answer but if you get one your pleasantly suprised.

 

[Alone]

If you can get away with stuffing your face with a fucking burger, you can stuff your face with some sliced fruit or some nuts.

 

[QueBert]

Come on, he says he eats 10 Wendy's double stacks (at 360 calories/burger) and mulitple frosties (410 for a medium chocolate). That equates to over 4,000 calories, as a snack, before lunch.

The more you think about what he's saying, the more you know he's just making it up.

could be true, my average "snack" is close to 2,000 and I honestly could eat more I just don't have the money. My late night snack 2 days ago was a Steakhouse XL burger with a large fry and large coke. When I was done I wasn't full, and I had already had dinner that night. Maybe OP has a stupidly quick metabolism like mine. OP eating sounds a lot like me, so he might be straight with this story.