NPR reports sarin found in Fallujah

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Infohawk

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Originally posted by: berserker
I'm still unclear as to why people think Bush lied. What did he lie about?


In the context of this thread, they are probably claiming he lied about WMDs being in Iraq.
 

ChrisIsBored

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Guys you should check the original link and listen to the NPR broadcast. There was no Sarin discovered, it was only a Sarin test kit. It still leaves questions of why they have the test kit unless they possess the chemicals.

Anyways, nothing thrilling to talk about in this thread, move on. ;)
 

Klixxer

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Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: Abraxas
So that means if the stuff is even still usable it could not have come out of Saddam's regime?
If you mix it beforehand, its shelf life is limited. Its precursors have basically an infinite shelf life. This is why sarin munitions are stored in binary form - they mix on impact and release sarin.

I am sill waiting for a link to the "infinite shelf life" claim.

To be honest i think you just make this crap up.
 

mwtgg

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Originally posted by: Klixxer
Originally posted by: CycloWizard
Originally posted by: Abraxas
So that means if the stuff is even still usable it could not have come out of Saddam's regime?
If you mix it beforehand, its shelf life is limited. Its precursors have basically an infinite shelf life. This is why sarin munitions are stored in binary form - they mix on impact and release sarin.

I am sill waiting for a link to the "infinite shelf life" claim.

To be honest i think you just make this crap up.

All I could find.

Efforts to Lengthen Shelf Life

According to the CIA, nations such as Iraq have tried to overcome the problem of sarin's short self life in two ways:

* The shelf life of unitary (i.e., pure) sarin may be lengthened by increasing the purity of the precursor and intermediate chemicals and refining the production process.

* Developing binary chemical weapons, where the two precursor chemicals are stored seperately in the same round, and mixed to form the agent immediate before or when the round is in flight. This approach has the dual benefit of making the issue of shelf life irrelevant and greatly increasing the safety of sarin munitions.
 

b0mbrman

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Originally posted by: Infohawk
Originally posted by: b0mbrman

All I'm saying is that we shouldn't rule out Infohawk's theory just yet

:roll:

Hey, I could be wrong. It was a logical guess though... Where do you think it's from b0mbrman?
I know as well as you do...which is as well as the rest of the posters in this thread...which is to say we know close to nothing. That's why I don't think your theory should be ruled out.

:roll:
 

DainBrammage

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Yeah, and there were never any terrorists in Iraq before the US came, and there were butterflies aplenty and kite flying arabs country-wide.



AHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHAHAHAHAHHHHAAAAA..

Jesus F'n christ i just pissed myself.......
 

DainBrammage

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You must not be watching the liberal media much. The warheads in May turned out to be years old ordinance that was pilfered from some of the weapons depots the U.S. failed to secure during their catastrophic success.

It's ordnance not ordinance and prove what you say.
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: DainBrammage
You must not be watching the liberal media much. The warheads in May turned out to be years old ordinance that was pilfered from some of the weapons depots the U.S. failed to secure during their catastrophic success.
It's ordnance not ordinance and prove what you say.
Read this entire thread:
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...1311977&arctab=arc


And then this one, too:
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...1343389&arctab=arc
 

Format C:

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Originally posted by: Klixxer

The precursors do not have "infinite shelf life" at all, where did you get that piece of misinformation from?

I am sill waiting for a link to the "infinite shelf life" claim.

To be honest i think you just make this crap up.

Passions is most likely the most worthless poster on this forum, he has the class of PhillyTim combined with the idiocy of CycloWizard, the comments he makes are always astounding. The man is in complete lack of common sense.
According to the CIA, nations such as Iraq have tried to overcome the problem of sarin's short self life in two ways:

* The shelf life of unitary (i.e., pure) sarin may be lengthened by increasing the purity of the precursor and intermediate chemicals and refining the production process.

* Developing binary chemical weapons, where the two precursor chemicals are stored seperately in the same round, and mixed to form the agent immediate before or when the round is in flight. This approach has the dual benefit of making the issue of shelf life irrelevant and greatly increasing the safety of sarin munitions.

The things one sees here that just makes one go... HMMMMMMM.





 

conjur

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Originally posted by: conjur
Originally posted by: DainBrammage
You must not be watching the liberal media much. The warheads in May turned out to be years old ordinance that was pilfered from some of the weapons depots the U.S. failed to secure during their catastrophic success.
It's ordnance not ordinance and prove what you say.
Read this entire thread:
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...1311977&arctab=arc


And then this one, too:
http://forums.anandtech.com/me...1343389&arctab=arc
Finished reading yet?
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Now the interesting thing is that the OP was all about sarin FOUND in Iraq. Now it's a test kit.

So is the game to post about any claim made for WMDs then hope they are right, and ignore it when wrong?
 

conjur

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Originally posted by: WinstonSmith
Now the interesting thing is that the OP was all about sarin FOUND in Iraq. Now it's a test kit.

So is the game to post about any claim made for WMDs then hope they are right, and ignore it when wrong?
<Brian Regan voice>

uh-PAR-ently!
 

BAMAVOO

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Originally posted by: smashp
Originally posted by: alchemize
Anything else on this? Why is the liberal NPR breaking this :D



maybe they arert Liberal, but actually the only OBJECTIVE news program left.

reguardless, they are not run and controlled by corporate Whores, So their focus is news and to inform, not profit and loss.

That is exactly why one of their own talk show hosts wants to ban born again christians from voting. :eek::confused::shocked: