NPR Boss Who Fired Juan Williams Resigns (Under pressure from board)

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NPR Boss Who Fired Juan Williams Resigns

Published January 06, 2011 | FoxNews.com

The NPR executive who sparked a public outrcy in October by firing journalist Juan Williams is resigning from her job, the organization announced Thursday.

Ellen Weiss resigned as senior vice president for news on the same day that NPR's board of directors completed its independent review of the dismissal of Williams. The directors recommended new internal procedures for personnel decisions and disciplinary action.

The board expressed confidence in CEO Vivian Schiller's leadership but voted to forgo her 2010 bonus because of "concern over her role in the termination process." Schiller drew criticism in November for saying Williams should keep his feelings about Muslims between him and "his psychiatrist or publicist" -- comments that she later apologized for.

Williams, who is a Fox News contributor, cheered the announcement.

"It's good news for NPR if they can get someone who is the keeper of the flame of liberal orthodoxy out of NPR," he told Fox News, which gave Williams a bigger role in the wake of his firing.

"She had an executioner's knife for anybody who didn't abide by her way of thinking," he said. "And I think she represented a very ingrown, incestuous culture in that institution that's not open to not only different ways of thinking, but angry at the fact that I would even talk or be on Fox."

Williams was fired by the nonprofit media organization because of remarks about his anxiety over seeing people dressed as Muslims on airplanes during an interview on Fox News' "The O'Reilly Factor." The company said the remarks did not meet its "editorial standards."

But the company came under withering criticism for the dismissal because it appeared rash and unfair since other NPR analysts have expressed their opinions with impunity.

According to Williams, Weiss fired him over the phone without giving him a chance to defend himself in person. Williams said she accused him of bigotry although he was arguing against rash judgments about people of faith.

"She felt that there was no place for me because I crossed the lines of her journalistic standard," he said. "I think what I crossed was her politically correct red line in the sand."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/01/06/npr-boss-fired-juan-williams-resigns/
 
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Not only did she make the wrong decision but she handled it very poorly like calling Wililams crazy. Good for NPR.
 
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Not that what you have to say matters that much but you need original commentary in the op.
 
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Even as a liberal, yes I think its now the correct NPR decision, and all the irony that it entails, the NPR politically idiot who fired Waun gets fired too. Nothing wrong with the ole what goes around comes around.

What is wrong with personal honesty? Emotions are always as valid as facts. We all have to get emotions out of the closet so we can address them.
 
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Lemon law said:
Even as a liberal, yes I think its now the correct NPR decision, and all the irony that it entails, the NPR politically idiot who fired Waun gets fired too. Nothing wrong with the ole what goes around comes around.

What is wrong with personal honesty? Emotions are always as valid as facts. We all have to get emotions out of the closet so we can address them.
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only girls talk about their emotions
 
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I think she did the right thing for NPR in terminating Williams, and his comments above just reinforce that view.

She apologized for her very minor comment, but he makes outrageous attacks like 'red line', actually implying she is a communist for enforcing the NPR rules.

The only mistake they made is in giving him too many chances, and he spit on them.

This is a defeat for the standards and freedom of speech at NPR.

Freedom of speech in the sense of the management being able to not allow low-quality but politically backed people to drag down the product.

In effect, they're ordered that the right wing gets special protection.
 
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Craig234 said:
This is a defeat for the standards and freedom of speech at NPR.

Freedom of speech in the sense of the management being able to not allow low-quality but politically backed people to drag down the product.
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That's not what freedom of speech means at all or ever in a million years. (Your post is good in the sense dog feces is good.)
 
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Really Craig234? How you get him calling her a communist out of that blows my mind. You're really stretching here bud, regardless of if he meant that or not.
 
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Really Craig234? How you get him calling her a communist out of that blows my mind. You're really stretching here bud, regardless of if he meant that or not.
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"Line in the sand" is a phrase. What is "red line in the sand"? The word 'red' in the context means only one thing. So, you criticize him, if that's what he did? Oh, guess not.
 
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Craig234 said:
I think she did the right thing for NPR in terminating Williams, and his comments above just reinforce that view.

She apologized for her very minor comment, but he makes outrageous attacks like 'red line', actually implying she is a communist for enforcing the NPR rules.

The only mistake they made is in giving him too many chances, and he spit on them.

This is a defeat for the standards and freedom of speech at NPR.

Freedom of speech in the sense of the management being able to not allow low-quality but politically backed people to drag down the product.

In effect, they're ordered that the right wing gets special protection.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INKQwUHE510

A fine video example of the hypocrisy at NPR, why she deserved to be canned, and why Craig is a dumbass.
 
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By the way, not to go over the old issue, but my reasons for supporting her action are not his comments in that incident, but the long pattern of bad behavior.
 
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Lemon law said:
What is wrong with personal honesty? Emotions are always as valid as facts. We all have to get emotions out of the closet so we can address them.
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Wrong!!

Emotions are personal feelings and not all personal feelings are always based on factual information and thus not all emotions are always valid. Hence this point you've written is completely absurd.


nvm...am gonna give you the benefit of doubt that you were just trolling or trying to be clever in some unwitting manner.
 
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DucatiMonster696 said:
Emotions are personal feelings and not all personal feelings are always based on factual information and thus not all emotions are always valid. Hence this point you've written is completely absurd.
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If you listen to the whole conversation that they had, in context, his views were not that absurd. Soundbite, yes, very absurd. However I don't think what he said was politically correct, and at the stage we was voicing his opinion at, he should have been more politically correct.
 
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Good Ridden, what happened and they way it happened was VERY wrong and they have worked towards correcting their mistake.
I am a loyal NPR listener, I spend atleast 2 to3 hours every day listening to it. I decided not to renew my membership after this incident. But for the last couple of months I noticed NPR starting to move to the center from far left, they started respecting Republicans coming to their show and other right wing ideas. They stopped mocking and dismissing everything Right. They have been trying to maintain the same attitude towards both right and felt. And now the firing/resignation, I am back on board with them now, I will continue to support NPR.
 
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They both deserved to be let go, but oh the delicious irony - Fox giddily reporting about a news organization that actually tries to follow some sort of standard.

Williams thinks his "different way of thinking" somehow was frowned upon at NPR.

No Mr Williams, repeatedly uttering stupid comments eventually gets you fired, well anywhere but at partisan news organizations anyway.

NPR's internal process eventually workd out in the end.
 
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Craig234 said:
Not fixed - you are lying about my position. Which says a lot about your position that you have to lie about mine to make your case.
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LOL, I didn't change your post, I commented you on your post.
 
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Any bets that Ellen gets hired by that publisher trying remove the "N word" from the "Huck Finn" book? She'd probably have fun drawing all sorts of new "politically correct" lines in the sand for all sorts of applications.

The whole PC concept needs to die!
 
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I've been listening to NPR a lot lately...hopefully they can turn down the bias a notch or two now.
 
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